Five Syrian Refugee Families are Protesting the Uruguay Government to pay for them to be "sent back" - Polidicks

[url]https://news.vice.com/article/five-syrian-families-in-uruguay-since-2014-have-packed-their-bags-and-want-to-get-out?utm_source=vicenewsfb[/url] [url]http://derechoshumanos.gub.uy/comunicado-de-prensa-6/[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias/2015/09/150908_refugiados_sirios_uruguay_irm[/url] On payment *google translate [QUOTE]While countries in North and South America deliberate how to potentially absorb refugees from war-torn Syria, five Syrian families that were given asylum in Uruguay in 2014 are demanding they be taken somewhere else, complaining of conditions that "don't allow them to live." The families, totaling more than 40 people, have been living in Uruguay for almost a year, after the government of former President Jose Mujica decided to take in Syrian refugees from a refugee camp in Lebanon. But all this week, the families gathered at Independence Square in Montevideo, just outside the presidential offices, holding bags with all their belongings. Some slept in a tent until Wednesday, and called off their demonstration on Thursday after the refugees met with government officials. The families' leaders improvised a press conference at the square with the help of Ali Jalil Ahmad, head of Uruguay's Islamic Center, who served as translator for the Arabic-speaking families. In essence, they said Uruguay is too expensive and too unsafe for them. "They came here because they were promised things, and a better life. But they don't live better here, and it's very expensive. They don't want money, they don't want anything from this country. They want to go back," Ahmad said. "They are appealing to the United Nations, or any country in the world, to get them out of here.".... In their statements, the Syrians said they'd like to return to Lebanon or "anywhere else" — they have permission to travel anywhere, but some place must agree to receive them. One report suggested a return to Lebanon would make it easier for them to attempt a crossing to Europe. [/QUOTE] At this point they're just economic immigrants. Thats fine and all but still. This country pretty much has no obligation to pay for this. I honestly doubt that Lebanon is better than Uraguay so they must intend on making the trip to Europe.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48667177]At this point they're just economic immigrants. Thats fine and all but still. This country pretty much has no obligation to pay for this.[/QUOTE] They often get their will through anyway because media publishes sob stories.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;48667325]They often get their will through anyway because media publishes sob stories.[/QUOTE] losing your home, job and homeland is a p big sob story on it's own. most of these people were probably more financially secure in their homeland before the war than they will be for years after fleeing.

[QUOTE=Falchion;48667457]losing your home, job and homeland is a p big sob story on it's own. most of these people were probably more financially secure in their homeland before the war than they will be for years after fleeing.[/QUOTE] I get that, and I get the whole humanitarian idea of paying for their trip. But the context here matters, they are rejecting perfectly fine countries that are trying to help them. If you are no longer in immediate need of aid and especially if you are refusing the aid you get, you are per definition no longer a refugee. If you want to immigrate to another country that's fine, but you shouldn't be allowed to take any shortcuts simply because of your "refugee" status. I recently read a [URL="http://www.thelocal.se/20150912/non-paying-refugees-will-not-be-thrown-off-swedish-trains"]similar article[/URL] about how refugees are hopping on trains to Sweden, trips they are unable or unwilling to pay for, rejecting Denmark and other countries simply because Swedens refugee policies are so extreme that we're actually giving permanent habitual residence upon arrival and citizenship within 4 years to all Syrian refugees no questions asked. Refugees should be provided with the most basal things at the refugee camps. Things like roof over your head, a place to sleep, food, medication and maybe school for the children. That's what we should do for them as well as trying to do what we can to stabilize the region. What we shouldn't do is try to migrate the entire population of Syria into Europe.

Without sounding too heartless, beggars can't be choosers.

At this point those with means in the middle East are getting out and those without are being left behind, it will not solve anything and its only going to perpetuate the cycle of war, coups and corruption.

It's been crazy, and opinions have been mixed... This country is getting a bit too expensive though. We have the most expensive bus ticket in the region, it's price keeps rising and rising nonstop and that is most people's method of transportation. Entire public services' functionality are bound to their respective unions' mood that day. And they strike every once in a while. Then we start flying over people from Syria and paying them off to sustain their huge 10-to-15 kids families. It's not going to work.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48667177]At this point they're just economic immigrants. Thats fine and all but still. This country pretty much has no obligation to pay for this.[/QUOTE]I agree with you but if they were under the impression that the conditions in Uruguay were better and they would have an opportunity to work, then that's likely why they left the camps. As critical as I have been over people pretending to be refugees, these folks [i]are actual refugees[/i] that took a deal that turned out to be less than advertised, I think they should at least get the opportunity to go back. Though I still think fuckheads trying to exploit the refugee status to bypass immigration law need to get booted the fuck out. They're liars and cheats, and are taking away resources that need to go to actual refugees in real refugee camps.

[QUOTE=James xX;48668108]Without sounding too heartless, beggars can't be choosers.[/QUOTE] Yeah they should take whatever they can get for help. If they don't like it then fuck them and get nothing you whiney cunt's. Seriously if this was me I'd be happy for any help.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48670623] Though I still think fuckheads trying to exploit the refugee status to bypass immigration law need to get booted the fuck out. They're liars and cheats, and are taking away resources that need to go to actual refugees in real refugee camps.[/QUOTE] Once the refugees are out of Syria quite a few of them end up in the same situation as the migrants from Africa, Pakistan, etc.

[QUOTE=James xX;48668108]Without sounding too heartless, beggars can't be choosers.[/QUOTE] Italy, Greece and the balkans don't have the resources (or even full consent) for taking care of every refugee (The neighboring countries in the region have barely any). Certain european countries have already given a very clear message of "Fuck you" and "Fuck off" to refugees which makes it harder to divide the burdens of the crisis based on actual resources.

That's fucking bullshit. Refugees should not be allowed to say I WANT TO GO HERE after they've already reached a safe country, it's just bullshit.