[QUOTE=bbc;28597078][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-12730440[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't mind the concept of "traffic shaping" as described in this article, but the bastardised version that most UK ISPs employ is nothing at all like this. Virgin media (One of the UK's largest ISPs) claim that you get unlimited bandwidth but if you download more than 2gb (figure may be wrong, but it's around this) between the hours of 15:00 and 21:00 then your internet speed is capped to a ridiculously slow speed. I wouldn't mind this apart from the fact that they do not advertise it anywhere and most people won't even know about it until they reach this cap.
[QUOTE=AaRoNg11;28597438]I don't mind the concept of "traffic shaping" as described in this article, but the bastardised version that most UK ISPs employ is nothing at all like this. Virgin media (One of the UK's largest ISPs) claim that you get unlimited bandwidth but if you download more than 2gb (figure may be wrong, but it's around this) between the hours of 15:00 and 21:00 then your internet speed is capped to a ridiculously slow speed. I wouldn't mind this apart from the fact that they do not advertise it anywhere and most people won't even know about it until they reach this cap.[/QUOTE]
I doubt they ever advertised that, as a 2gb cap isn't unlimited bandwidth.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28598056]I doubt they ever advertised that, as a 2gb cap isn't unlimited bandwidth.[/QUOTE] Unfortunatly they do/did advertise that as unlimited.
They do make their policy publicly available, admittedly it doesn't make for good advertising but it is in the small print.
[url]http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management/traffic-management-policy.html[/url]
[editline]14th March 2011[/editline]
On the other hand you will never get any threatening letters about your usage or warnings of being cut off. I have seen far worse policies.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28598056]I doubt they ever advertised that, as a 2gb cap isn't unlimited bandwidth.[/QUOTE]
The bandwidth itself is unlimited; your speeds aren't.
[quote]"Go and ask someone on an ISP that doesn't use traffic management," said Andrew Ferguson, editor of the independent website Thinkbroadband.com.[/quote]
[url=https://www.bethere.co.uk/web/beportal/homepage](ahem)[/url]
While I think that traffic management is sadly going to become a reality on a large scale, I would still like to see a viable option for people who just want a consistent connection (even if you have to pay out the anus)
My ISP doesn't have any of this shit. :smug:
Virgin + Wiltshire = Shit.
"And if you live out in the boondocks, we're not going to give you a speed above 80KB/s. Ever."
[QUOTE=MasterG;28623139]BT internet business plan offers 20mb/s (That's 2000kb/s!) *
*Except 20 miles outside of fucking London, because that's apparently a deserted rural area where they couldn't possibly deliver above 600kb/s max in the mornings, and 200kb/s max at peak times.[/QUOTE]
You guys are lucky, I would be shocked to get 200kbps at any time in rural South Carolina, and I'm spending half a fortune for it.
While I may not be in the UK, Comcast is still assraping me speedwise.
[QUOTE=MasterG;28623139]20mb/s (That's 2000kb/s!) *[/QUOTE]
Am I reading this right or do I just not get this
[QUOTE=Bob The Ferret;28663144]Am I reading this right or do I just not get this[/QUOTE]
It seems a zero is missing.
[QUOTE=Benlecyborg;28608450]Virgin should stick to doing coke.[/QUOTE]
What's the joke here?
[QUOTE=Bob The Ferret;28663144]Am I reading this right or do I just not get this[/QUOTE]
He's underestimating his speed a little.
You see, ISPs give the speed in mega[b]bits[/b] per second while we calculate our speeds in mega[b]bytes[/b].
20 MBits/s = 20 000 KBits/s
There's 8 bits in 1 byte so 20 000/8 = 2500 Kbytes/s or 2.5 Mbytes/s.
I live in an age-old piece of shit house with the worst cabling ever.
24/1 ADSL2+, I get like 1.6mb/s usually.
I tried with Usenet though once and I was getting 2.2mb/s.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;28663963]He's underestimating his speed a little.
You see, ISPs give the speed in mega[b]bits[/b] per second while we calculate our speeds in mega[b]bytes[/b].
20 MBits/s = 20 000 KBits/s
There's 8 bits in 1 byte so 20 000/8 = 2500 Kbytes/s or 2.5 Mbytes/s.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's the other way
b is for bit
B is for byte
therefore MB is megabyte and Mb is megabit, KB is kilobyte and kb is kilobit
Powers of 10 go like this:
T - Tera - 10^12
G - Giga - 10^9
M - Mega - 10^6
K - Kilo - 10^3
m - mili - 10^-3
μ - micro - 10^-6
n - nano - 10^-9
so by saying mb you are saying milibits which isn't even a size.
And then everyone wonders why people get confused.
[QUOTE=leach139;28599291][url=https://www.bethere.co.uk/web/beportal/homepage](ahem)[/url]
While I think that traffic management is sadly going to become a reality on a large scale, I would still like to see a viable option for people who just want a consistent connection (even if you have to pay out the anus)[/QUOTE]
Actually the Be network is currently shaping torrent traffic between 4 and 9pm every day I believe. O2's to blame, but it's hardly as bad as what VirginMedia do.
Virgin's 50Mb and 100Mb is amazing for student houseshares.
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