Five major ISP's in the US and one in Europe have been accused of throttling traffic - Polidicks

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lDFOMv4.jpg[/IMG] [B]Article from The Verge:[/B] [QUOTE][B]Five major internet service providers in the US and one in Europe have been accused of abusing their market share to interfere with the flow of the internet for end users.[/B] The accusations come from Level 3, a communications company that helps connect large-scale ISPs like Comcast or AT&T to the rest of the internet. According to the company, [B]these six unnamed ISPs are deliberately degrading the quality of internet services using the Level 3 network, in an attempt to get Level 3 to pay them a fee for additional traffic caused by services like Netflix, a process known as paid peering.[/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]They are deliberately harming the service they deliver to their paying customers," writes Level 3's Mark Taylor.[/B] "They are not allowing us to fulfill the requests their customers make for content." [B]While Taylor doesn't name names, he describes the six offenders as "large broadband consumer networks with a dominant or exclusive market share in their local market."[/B] He adds that "in countries or markets where consumers have multiple broadband choices (like the UK) there are no congested peers." He also says that Level 3 won't be paying up. "Our policy is to refuse to pay arbitrary charges to add interconnection capacity," he explains.[/QUOTE] Original Source: [url]http://www.vox.com/2014/5/5/5683642/five-big-internet-providers-are-slowing-down-internet-access-until[/url]

I've noticed a big drop in speed at around 8.30 pm est with my connection.

And I am absolutely 100% NOT surprised. Seriously, most ISPs in the US are dickheads.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44737202]So pretty much every ISP in the US[/QUOTE] Pretty much. I do wonder about the one in Europe. What are the chances of it being in the UK?

i want to rate this late but theres nothing that can even be done anyways since the FCC are the ones who could put an end to this but they're run by the cable companies already self-regulation everyone, it sucks [editline]6th May 2014[/editline] also they'll just insist that its the infrastructure not their shitty network policies. its amazing that whenever google fiber goes into a city suddenly time warner or comcast can offer gigabyte internet access for the same price without building new infrastructure.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44737215]i want to rate this late but theres nothing that can even be done anyways since the FCC are the ones who could put an end to this but they're run by the cable companies already self-regulation everyone, it sucks [editline]6th May 2014[/editline] also they'll just insist that its the infrastructure not their shitty network policies. its amazing that whenever google fiber goes into a city suddenly time warner or comcast can offer gigabyte internet access for the same price without building new infrastructure.[/QUOTE] That infrastructure excuse is a big lie and everyone knows it. As soon as they get what they want they will magically speed things up like there's nothing wrong with the infrastructure.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;44737211]And I am absolutely 100% NOT surprised. Seriously, most ISPs in the US are dickheads.[/QUOTE] Comcast can die in a hole. That is all.

I wonder which european ISP they're talking about, I hope it's not UPC, I've been pretty happy with their service so far

wow isn't this highly illegal

Only one in Europe? Bullshit, I say.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44737258]Comcast can die in a hole. That is all.[/QUOTE] Comcast where I am is really chill , they upgraded my download speed one day by like 25 mb for no reason

The choice here in the UK means everyone's fighting for more speed. It's pretty nice.

[QUOTE=LittleBabyman;44737397]Only one in Europe? Bullshit, I say.[/QUOTE] The article doesn't say that there aren't more, just that one has been accused.

Oh my god! There are five major ISPs in the US?

I wish they'd reveal the names just to put these ISP's to shame for doing it

[QUOTE=Omali;44737499]Oh my god! There are five major ISPs in the US?[/QUOTE] Comcast, Time Warner Cable, AT&T, CenturyLink, and Verizon are the biggest, I think. Maybe Charter is in that list. There's actually quite a few ISPs around. They're just never in the same area so most people don't get much of a choice.

[quote=Article]Level 3 notes that "in countries or markets where consumers have multiple broadband choices (like the UK) there are no congested peers." In short, broadband providers that face serious competition don't engage in this kind of brinksmanship.[/quote] Hmm, it's almost as if competition can be a good thing

guess they forgot to investigate bell

I've always wondered this, but isn't keeping (more) people online downloading at 500kb/s worse than having (less) people download at full speed and getting off the site?

[QUOTE=TheJoker;44737208]I've noticed a big drop in speed at around 8.30 pm est with my connection.[/QUOTE] That's likely just because of increased neighboring traffic.

[quote]He adds that "in countries or markets where consumers have multiple broadband choices (like the UK) there are no congested peers."[/quote] Fuck yea proud to be Bri'ish, god save the Queen [img]http://imgkk.com/i/gh7q.jpg[/img]

I FUCKING KNEW IT. There is no reason I should be having 200+ ping in a US server in various games I've been playing. Fuck you Time Warner.

[QUOTE=muffinmastah;44737967]I've always wondered this, but isn't keeping (more) people online downloading at 500kb/s worse than having (less) people download at full speed and getting off the site?[/QUOTE] Not really. There might be negligible extra overhead but with fat data amounts of full HD video it really doesn't matter. Remember that they don't really have bad load problems. Netflix is undercutting their cable TV and they try to get the lost profit back. It's barely a technical issue, it's a snide businesses move. [editline]6th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;44737999]I FUCKING KNEW IT. There is no reason I should be having 200+ ping in a US server in various games I've been playing. Fuck you Time Warner.[/QUOTE] Highly unlikely related at all. This is about Netflix.

[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;44737999]I FUCKING KNEW IT. There is no reason I should be having 200+ ping in a US server in various games I've been playing. Fuck you Time Warner.[/QUOTE] Throttling speeds won't cause a standard ICMP ping request to do that unless they drop your speeds to something near dial-up or some shit. Or they start routing you through shifty routes in an attempt to save money or something.

The one from Europe is probably one of ours, we live in the dark ages when it comes to internet here (Unless your from Dublin) ISP's here love to exploit every single penny out of you and spend as little as possible on infrastructure, 2 companies pretty much have a monopoly on the industry.

Yeah they are doing throttling because they need to keep shit functional, seriously ISP's are always oversubscribed.

Based Cox Communications master race. Probably one of the last good ISPs in the US.

[QUOTE=ZyreHD;44737212]Pretty much. I do wonder about the one in Europe. What are the chances of it being in the UK?[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if it's a french one tbh. Could also be t-mobile. The thing is though, there's hundreds if not thousands of ISPs in Europe. Lots of minor ones so the fight is a bit more severe and they can't really go into the whole peering thing without getting replaced. It helps that major ISPs also have availability in most places. I think the main difference is the UK, where they do honestly not have as a good coverage.

but competition stifles price monopolies!

[QUOTE=DeEz;44737389]wow isn't this highly illegal[/QUOTE] In a nation where corporations write the laws, anything goes.