I hate how those ww2 movies showed that all nazis are evil or all japs are evil in games like COD, and a shitload of fucking movies I can't remember.
They always show americans with 1 to 2 people dead, while hundreds of germans dead.
They are just like the americans, they got normal families, and normal lives, but are forced to join the army.
Same goes for communist, Just because they believe in that idea, it means they are EVILLLLLL
Oh, and I recommend LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA. The Iwo Jima battle, from the japanese side.
A lot of your guys die in COD. [img]http://d2k5.com/sa_emots/emot-raise.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=ray243;15998487]I hate how those ww2 movies showed that all nazis are evil or all japs are evil in games like COD, and a shitload of fucking movies I can't remember.
They always show americans with 1 to 2 people dead, while hundreds of germans dead.
They are just like the americans, they got normal families, and normal lives, but are forced to join the army.
Same goes for communist, Just because they believe in that idea, it means they are EVILLLLLL[/QUOTE]
It's called patriotism. Get over it.
I'd love to see a game where they portray the Axis as the good guys, as if you were in the eyes of ein Deutschlander or something.
You know, play as the "bad guy", but with a good story and shit.
[QUOTE=DualReaver;15998512]A lot of your guys die in COD. [img]http://d2k5.com/sa_emots/emot-raise.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Because they do not know how to shoot. The AI in some of the COD games are dumb, they don't really help you, and got killed by mortar/88/tanks/machinegun/artillery/rifles/snipers/melee/grenades.
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[QUOTE=bigdoggie;15998537]I'd love to see a game where they portray the Axis as the good guys, as if you were in the eyes of ein Deutschlander or something.
You know, play as the "bad guy", but with a good story and shit.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, was hoping for that in COD:WAW :(
[QUOTE=ray243;15998542]Because they do not know how to shoot. The AI in some of the COD games are dumb, they don't really help you, and got killed by mortar/88/tanks/machinegun/artillery/rifles/snipers/melee/grenades.[/QUOTE]
what
Nowadays, and as always, majority of games have been made in the western nations. And guess what: They fought against the Axis nations.
why does it matter
The Germans were trying to take over the fucking world.
What do you expect?
And the Japanese were just being overly fucking aggressive.
I agree. I've seen a few games that actually protray the Germans in WW2 like they should be.
(ex: Company of heroes) not the heartless jew killing machines some games make them out to be.
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;15998537]I'd love to see a game where they portray the Axis as the good guys, as if you were in the eyes of ein Deutschlander or something.
You know, play as the "bad guy", but with a good story and shit.[/QUOTE]
they have games like that but they don't sell well
The Axis were not very peaceful or ready to hug you when you get down, why should they be portrayed as such?
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15998665]they have games like that but they don't sell well[/QUOTE]
Not really. Company of heroes sold damn well
[QUOTE=The_Marine;15998654]The Germans were trying to take over the fucking world.
What do you expect?
And the Japanese were just being overly fucking aggressive.[/QUOTE]
Only trying to take Europe :v:
But again, as poeple have said here, not everyone in the Wehrmacht shared the same views that Hitler and his Nazi people dude persons had.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;15998672]The Axis were not very peaceful or ready to hug you when you get down, why should they be portrayed as such?[/QUOTE]
Yes cause the Germans were ruthless killing machines. They were no different from their American counterparts. Just fighting on opposite sides of the battlefield.
[QUOTE=Aman;15998685]Yes cause the Germans were ruthless killing machines. They were no different from their American counterparts. Just fighting on opposite sides of the battlefield.[/QUOTE]
It's not like the Allies are portrayed as such, either, so thereeee, at least in COD
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;15998537]I'd love to see a game where they portray the Axis as the good guys, as if you were in the eyes of ein Deutschlander or something.
You know, play as the "bad guy", but with a good story and shit.[/QUOTE]
Letters from Iwo Jima
Directed by Clint Eastwood. Go watch it.
Wow, the Nazi were much more ruthless killers; especially when dealing with Jews. They should be portrayed as monsters, because that was basically what they were. Take Amon Goeth for example...
They were not just doing what they were told, they went to lengths to torture their prisoners; kill Jews randomly, rape them etc.. I don't see why you would want to play as a Nazi soldier...
[QUOTE=deepneau;15998736]Wow, the Nazi were much more ruthless killers; especially when dealing with Jews. They should be portrayed as monsters, because that was basically what they were. Take Amon Goeth for example...
They were not just doing what they were told, they went to lengths to torture their prisoners; kill Jews randomly, rape them etc.. I don't see why you would want to play as a Nazi soldier...[/QUOTE]
Lol of course. You are branding the whole German army that way from the example of a few groups of men. American and other nations commited war crimes as well.
Because the average player can't understand anything beyond we = good, enemies = pure evil.
[QUOTE=deepneau;15998736]Wow, the Nazi were much more ruthless killers; especially when dealing with Jews. They should be portrayed as monsters, because that was basically what they were. Take Amon Goeth for example...
They were not just doing what they were told, they went to lengths to torture their prisoners; kill Jews randomly, rape them etc.. I don't see why you would want to play as a Nazi soldier...[/QUOTE]
[img]http://d2k5.com/sa_emots/emot-dogout.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Aman;15998776]Lol of course. You are branding the whole German army that way from the example of a few groups of men. American and other nations commited war crimes as well.[/QUOTE]
I understand that the Allies did commit war crimes as well, but did the Allies commit the Holocaust? No.
[QUOTE=deepneau;15998736]Wow, the Nazi were much more ruthless killers; especially when dealing with Jews. They should be portrayed as monsters, because that was basically what they were. Take Amon Goeth for example...
They were not just doing what they were told, they went to lengths to torture their prisoners; kill Jews randomly, rape them etc.. I don't see why you would want to play as a Nazi soldier...[/QUOTE]
Yes, because every person who was convinced to join the Nazi party, the only party in Nazi germany, and everyone who was forced by conscription to join the German army during that time, and every single person forced or threatened into following the orders of their government is evil.
You're very misinformed.
There are exceptions to this, though. I know Cross of Iron is a great film (although somewhat inaccurate) that portrays a German squad in WW2.
And Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad is supposed to have a singleplayer campaign where you play the role of a German soldier.
[QUOTE=deepneau;15998824]I understand that the Allies did commit war crimes as well, but did the Allies commit the Holocaust? No.[/QUOTE]
Russia did some p bad shit, yo
[QUOTE=deepneau;15998824]I understand that the Allies did commit war crimes as well, but did the Allies commit the Holocaust? No.[/QUOTE]
Did every German commit the Holocaust?
Also, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;15998855]Did every German commit the Holocaust?
Also, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.[/QUOTE]
Exactly
Because it's not as entertaining to watch the heroes die.
The victor of a war always determines who was the bad guy.
Did the holocaust even exist?
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