Kanye West’s new album, ‘The Life of Pablo,’ now available on Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play Musi
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So much for Kanye West’s plans to make his new album, “The Life of Pablo,” [URL="http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/16/kanye-west-says-his-new-album-wont-be-on-itunes-or-apple-music/"]a Tidal exclusive.[/URL] The artist, who has[URL="http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/15/tidal-flubs-kanye-wests-album-release-as-users-report-credit-card-charges-but-no-download-provided/"] changed his mind[/URL] numerous times with regard to this latest release, has now put the album out on Tidal’s competitors, including Spotify, Apple Music, and Google Play Music. The move is notable because West had originally [URL="http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/16/kanye-west-says-his-new-album-wont-be-on-itunes-or-apple-music/"]promised[/URL] fans the album would “[I]never never be on Apple[/I]” – a statement that ended up [URL="http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/14/tidal-tops-the-app-store-after-landing-exclusive-rights-to-kanyes-new-album/"]boosting downloads to mobile Tidal’s application[/URL], pushing it to the top of the U.S. App Store.
After the album’s launch, customers flocked to Tidal in droves, believing it was the only avenue to hear West’s new tunes. And while not all those downloads converted into paying subscribers, it certainly had an effect on the newcomer to the streaming market: the app today is the #4 Top Grossing Music application in the U.S. Apple App Store. It’s also a not-too-shabby #55 Top Grossing Overall application, and a Top 20 Music app.[/quote]
[URL]http://techcrunch.com/2016/04/01/kanye-wests-new-album-the-life-of-pablo-is-no-longer-a-tidal-exclusive/[/URL]
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
Also for sale on his website — [URL="https://shop.kanyewest.com/"]$20 for a downloadable copy.[/URL]
Welp, that's $20 I'm not going to spend. Even if I liked the guy, $20 for an album is absolutely bullshit.
Considering he was expecting people to pay $20 a month for Tidal, I'm not shocked at the price. But still, unless it was a double album or something, that's still too much
"My album will never be for sale... but give me $20 and you can download a free copy."
Here's the thing:
If that money was that outrageously high to compensate for the mafia-like record industry that's possibly backing him (I don't know), I'd not buy it out of principle. But if he put it that high and he was the sole person responsible, I wouldn't buy it simply because he's a greedy fuck. His music is not [I]that[/I] important.
[B]EDIT:[/B] Oh, so if I'm understanding this correctly it's to try and push people to a shitty Spotify competitor? Great.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50058253]Here's the thing:
If that money was that outrageously high to compensate for the mafia-like record industry that's possibly backing him (I don't know), I'd not buy it out of principle. But if he put it that high and he was the sole person responsible, I wouldn't buy it simply because he's a greedy fuck. His music is not [I]that[/I] important.
[B]EDIT:[/B] Oh, so if I'm understanding this correctly it's to try and push people to a shitty Spotify competitor? Great.[/QUOTE]
Its possibly the illuminati that is backing him through all of this. But its great to see him release this to all these outlets because:
A) Hes losing millions of dollars
B) An Idiot
C) Slow realization that his dreams of having a premium hifi wifi streaming service wasn't worth it in the end.
So he needs to cash in as much as possible. Maybe the mafia-like record industry is threatening to bash his knee caps in if he doesn't sell X million albums.
[editline]Sorry, didnt mean to mention the illuminati. But hes one of them[/editline]
If by any chance his smug ass reads any of these comments, or at least reads in general, guess you're not the best when you're struggling to hold your own words and ego at the same time.
This video is more relevant than ever
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYcF1uQ9j0[/media]
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50058295]This video is more relevant than ever
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYcF1uQ9j0[/media][/QUOTE]
Doesn't even look the guy in the eye. Fucking pathetic.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50058197]Welp, that's $20 I'm not going to spend. Even if I liked the guy, $20 for an album is absolutely bullshit.[/QUOTE]
But... $20 for an album has been pretty much the standard price since forever
[url]http://www.jbhifi.co.nz/cd-dvd-music/[/url]
What is it with this generation and expecting to pay less and less for creative products?
TurboGrafx 16 coming soon
[QUOTE=Maloof?;50058575]But... $20 for an album has been pretty much the standard price since forever
[url]http://www.jbhifi.co.nz/cd-dvd-music/[/url]
What is it with this generation and expecting to pay less and less for creative products?[/QUOTE]
in the US a CD is between $10 and $15 on average
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
i'd pay $20 or more for a vinyl or a CD i really want but not for a digital download, there's nothing i can hold in my hands and look at with an mp3 even if i mostly listen to mp3s
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50058623]in the US a CD is between $10 and $15 on average[/QUOTE]
idk i think pablo is pretty good and worth $20.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;50058575]But... $20 for an album has been pretty much the standard price since forever
[url]http://www.jbhifi.co.nz/cd-dvd-music/[/url]
What is it with this generation and expecting to pay less and less for creative products?[/QUOTE]
Because that standard is based on the industry which keeps expecting consumers to grovel for shit. Most of the time, you aren't paying the artist, you're paying for administration and related garbage. And then they get all butthurt when people start pirating and people don't think they're that important that they need to be paid for. They still think people are going to go through the inconvenience of spending $20 on them. That's nonsense, and that mindset is nonsense.
Also, keep in mind, this is Kanye we're talking about, [url=http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/03/kanye-west-caught-using-pirate-bay-to-download-music-software/]Mr. Pirate himself[/url]. It all boils down to a greedy perversion of art.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;50058648]idk i think pablo is pretty good and worth $20.[/QUOTE]
that's all that really matters. i personally would like something to hold onto for that much but that is just me.
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[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50058623]in the US a CD is between $10 and $15 on average
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
i'd pay $20 or more for a vinyl or a CD i really want but not for a digital download, there's nothing i can hold in my hands and look at with an mp3 even if i mostly listen to mp3s[/QUOTE]
I remember there was an NIN album (With Teeth?) that was $20. Most of that money was wasted on shitty packaging that no one cared about as most people ripped it and didn't use the CD itself. This is above and beyond that and I think is an example of Kanye's ego and/or the shittiness of the industry.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50058295]This video is more relevant than ever
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYcF1uQ9j0[/media][/QUOTE]
wow he seems like a dumbass
[QUOTE=Mining Bill;50058711]wow he seems like a dumbass[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the dozen Facepunchers who value Kayne as an intelligent genius who "knows what he's doing" even in face of the $50 million debt.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50058679]I remember there was an NIN album (With Teeth?) that was $20. Most of that money was wasted on shitty packaging that no one cared about as most people ripped it and didn't use the CD itself. This is above and beyond that and I think is an example of Kanye's ego and/or the shittiness of the industry.[/QUOTE]
i think saying that nobody cares about the packaging is incorrect. i know i and many other people are really into the physical items. i've gone out of my way to buy physical editions of music i already owned digitally because i wanted something that i could hold in my hands. i mostly buy from independent labels. i have CDs i haven't used once because the mp3s are more convenient but i still like looking at liner notes and having something i can display on a shelf. $20 for something digital is getting out of my range but that isn't too unreasonable for something physical if i like the album enough
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
i dunno, i've been buying a lot of vinyl recently and $20 is quite reasonable to me for that
That's definitely our difference then. I don't hold a lot of value in stuff like that but I won't down you for it. What I'm saying, though, is that Kanye isn't even providing anything like that. He thinks his album is worth $20. That's pretty crazy. He's definitely in a spot where he doesn't really need $20 per person anyway.
For how much time and effort goes into an album, $20 seems like pennies. I'd pay $20 for a new release from an artist I like no question, how is that even a problem?
[QUOTE=Maloof?;50058575]But... $20 for an album has been pretty much the standard price since forever
[url]http://www.jbhifi.co.nz/cd-dvd-music/[/url]
What is it with this generation and expecting to pay less and less for creative products?[/QUOTE]
$20 for a CD is alright (though I usually get mine for cheaper) but I think the standard for digital downloads is more like $10.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50058808]For how much time and effort goes into an album, $20 seems like pennies. I'd pay $20 for a new release from an artist I like no question, how is that even a problem?[/QUOTE]
Enjoy having disposable income.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50058717]Tell that to the dozen Facepunchers who value Kayne as an intelligent genius who "knows what he's doing" even in face of the $50 million debt.[/QUOTE]
i don't think he meant he's actually $50m in debt, he just wants $50m to fund his business ideas.
cryptic kanye as always
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50058808]For how much time and effort goes into an album, $20 seems like pennies. I'd pay $20 for a new release from an artist I like no question, how is that even a problem?[/QUOTE]
Dunno. I don't like any artist that much then.
Bear in mind, I'm kind of an extreme person when it comes to these things. I really think we're past the point where we should be directly paying for music at all (save for ad-free subscriptions to services). You can listen to whatever you want generally for free and if not at least conveniently. There's YouTube, Soundcloud, Spotify, and all kinds of sites where you can listen to people's work legally, and worst case scenario is piracy. I'm not condoning piracy, but I am saying that it's there and people sure as hell use it. Why? It's convenient.
Now, you might feel like it's totally fair to pay $20, but that's because you're attached to Kanye. Most people aren't. Most people are going to say "fuck that" and either:
a.) ignore it
b.) pirate it
For my entire time as a musician, I've been kind of bonkers with releasing my own music. As of right now, you can download everything off of my sites for free and donate for whatever you want by buying it for a dollar each on Bandcamp. It's completely optional. I feel like an ass for doing otherwise - I feel like I am trying to lock people out with a "listening tax" that's completely arbitrary and doesn't work, and in all honesty I just don't care. I'd rather people listen to my music and enjoy it instead of try to break past my paywall. And Kanye hasn't built a paywall, he's built a fucking pay-fortress. And he's sitting in the middle with his MP3 files, shaking his fist at everyone saying, "I'M WORTH SO MUCH." (also while pirating audio tools despite having the money to do so)
I mean, if the argument for the price of his album is that he works really hard on it and deserves the payoff, so does Native Instruments. So do the creators of Pro Tools. So do the creators of Logic. Kanye's a big ol' hypocrite with an inflated ego and it's just another reason not to spend $20 on him. There's entitlement and his greater love for business over his fans.
[B]EDIT:[/B] Just to clarify, it's not that he's making people pay for his music that bothers me. That's normal right now and I'm not going to fault him for what is normal right now. However, he's taking what is normal and taking it pretty far. That's my issue.
Guys the reason it's 20 dollars is because it's flac files, calm down. That's pretty much the standard for them online, unless there's a sale.
[QUOTE=Revan564;50058942]Guys the reason it's 20 dollars is because it's flac files, calm down. That's pretty much the standard for them online, unless there's a sale.[/QUOTE]
Doesnt make any sense
[QUOTE=Revan564;50058942]Guys the reason it's 20 dollars is because it's flac files, calm down. That's pretty much the standard for them online, unless there's a sale.[/QUOTE]
Wait, if its FLAC, shouldn't it be free?
[QUOTE=Revan564;50058942]Guys the reason it's 20 dollars is because it's flac files, calm down. That's pretty much the standard for them online, unless there's a sale.[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything?
Can I record myself screaming into a 1000kbps FLAC and then sell it for $20?
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50058963]Wait, if its FLAC, shouldn't it be free?[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Revan564;50058942]Guys the reason it's 20 dollars is because it's flac files, calm down. That's pretty much the standard for them online, unless there's a sale.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure I get you.
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