Don't you hate it when you fall down a glacier and crawl to some homes for help but nobody comes out - Polidicks

[img]http://www.adn.com/sites/default/files/styles/ad_slideshow_940/public/883781_10200618729491258_718704777_o.jpg?itok=bzm3AUJA[/img] [I]John Carlos Mann, 29, spent two nights lost in Chugach State Park before emerging on the Seward Highway late Sunday evening.[/I] [I]Clarification: Mann initially reported that he was denied help at a local bar, but is actually unsure what business he was turned away from. [/I] [quote=adn]When John Carlos Mann finally stumbled out of the woods near Bird Creek on Sunday night, he had been lost in Chugach State Park for two days and two cold nights, growing colder and more tired as he searched for someone to help him. [B]Mann had reached the Seward Highway, near Mile 101, after sliding down a glacier, following a river and, later, walking along ATV tracks. He reached a residential area of Bird Creek, a community along the Seward Highway south of Anchorage, but no one emerged from the homes there to answer his cries for help. He flagged down cars on the highway, but no one stopped.[/B] “I was probably walking like a drunk person,” Mann said Monday. Mann made it to a local business, and employees told him to leave, he said. “This is private property,” he said they told him. They told him to go to a nearby gas station, but that business was closed. Mann finally found help at the Birdridge Motel & RV Park. [B]“It was pretty dramatic,” owner Erik Lambertsen said of finding Mann outside his door. “He was yelling outside for help. I was hesitant to go to the door.”[/B] But when Lambertsen did open the door, he saw Mann, who was shaking and appeared close to hypothermia. “He was obviously in distress. … His hands were shriveled like prunes, and white,” Lambertsen said. Lambertsen and his wife, Victoria, brought Mann inside, gave him warm broth and sat him down in front of their wood stove, wrapped in a wool blanket. "John was telling his story and man, what a harrowing experience. He literally was close to death," Lambertsen said. On Friday, Mann had become lost while hiking Crow Pass Trail from Eagle River Nature Center to Girdwood. He had planned to hike the trail in 14 hours, using his headlamp after dark. But once night fell, he became separated from the trail and “took a long pass over the mountain,” Mann said. “I slept one night up there in the snow.” Mann, 29, had carried a sleeping bag and emergency blanket that he credits with saving his life. At 3 a.m. Saturday, he woke up. “I couldn’t take the cold anymore,” Mann said. He passed over the mountain and came upon a glacier. “I slid down … and finally made it out of the glacier and saw a river.” That river was a glimmer of hope, Mann said. He thought it was Crow Creek, but it was actually Bird Creek, according to Alaska State Troopers, who had reported Mann missing Saturday night. “I was quite certain it would lead to Turnagain Arm,” Mann said. [B]He followed the river all day. On Saturday afternoon, his hope faltered, and he thought he was going to die.[/B] “I was losing my temperature really, really quick,” Mann said. "Then I said to myself the simple logic: 'While you’re alive you’ve got to keep trying.''' He walked with his emergency blanket wrapped around him. When it was torn apart by branches and trees, he wrapped the shreds around his hands and, later, his feet.[/quote] [url="http://www.adn.com/article/20141013/lost-hiker-survives-2-chilly-nights-alaskas-chugach-state-park"]you should read the rest in source[/url] This man has got some damn respectful will to live; probably why his last name is Mann.

Why is it so damn hard to extend a helping hand to a living being in need of help? What is up with people's "Oh I dont want to get involved..." attitude? Good on the one god damned guy who had the balls and sense to do the right thing.

Damn, what a badass. Does America not have those motorway SOS phones like the UK does? Could he not have crawled to one of them and dialed for help?

[QUOTE=Coridan;46232782]Why is it so damn hard to extend a helping hand to a living being in need of help? What is up with people's "Oh I dont want to get involved..." attitude? Good on the one god damned guy who had the balls and sense to do the right thing.[/QUOTE] The bystander effect and general apathy when both combined tend to result in incidents of this nature becoming commonplace.

[QUOTE=Coridan;46232782]What is up with people's "Oh I dont want to get involved..." attitude? [/QUOTE] Few things. 1: Fear of being sued into oblivion over a mistake. We are, for better or worse, one of the most litigious peoples in the world, and our courts do not seem to give a flying donkey shit whether or not the case they're hearing is sensible or logical. It's perfectly plausible that someone who made a mistake giving first aid would see their livelihood fucked to hell and back by the person they tried to help. Or, especially if said person doesn't make it, their family. Not all states have good samaritan protection laws, still others are inadequate, and few people even know of said laws at all nevermind what the state of such is in their area. So they're afraid to offer help. I can't really blame them when the results of such a lawsuit pretty much are a financial death sentence, though they could at least call 911. 2: "Someone else will do it" 3: "Meh."

[QUOTE=loopoo;46232783]Damn, what a badass. Does America not have those motorway SOS phones like the UK does? Could he not have crawled to one of them and dialed for help?[/QUOTE] One of our states is as big as your country, doing that on all the rural roads is nearly impossible without running into budgetary/infrastructure/maintenance constraints.

[QUOTE=TestECull;46232818]Few things. 1: Fear of being sued into oblivion over a mistake. We are, for better or worse, one of the most litigious peoples in the world, and our courts do not seem to give a flying donkey shit whether or not the case they're hearing is sensible or logical. It's perfectly plausible that someone who made a mistake giving first aid would see their livelihood fucked to hell and back by the person they tried to help. Or, especially if said person doesn't make it, their family. Not all states have good samaritan protection laws, still others are inadequate, and few people even know of said laws at all nevermind what the state of such is in their area. So they're afraid to offer help. I can't really blame them when the results of such a lawsuit pretty much are a financial death sentence, though they could at least call 911. 2: "Someone else will do it" 3: "Meh."[/QUOTE] Fear of the "victim" as well. My dad said he saw a guy in blackpool lying buy the side of the road, he didn't stop because he feared the guy mugging him (my dad was 60+ at the time, has trouble walking and has a dodgy arm) I don't blame him.

America the superior nation.

[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;46232890]America the superior nation.[/QUOTE] The fuck is that supposed to mean.

[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;46232890]America the superior nation.[/QUOTE] Oh boy here we go...

[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;46232890]America the superior nation.[/QUOTE] because bad things NEVER happen anywhere else in the world.

damn, that is the definition of tough

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;46232960]because bad things NEVER happen anywhere else in the world.[/QUOTE] It's just that video posted last week of some guy who had been lost for days after a festival and the guy that found him just filmed him for ten minutes interviewing him before helping.

Just another day in Alaska

I've read quite a few books on plane crash or lost exploration survivors, this is a reoccurring problem in all sorts of places since the 1900s. People usually can't tell the difference between a crazed homeless person and someone returing from being lost in the wilderness. There are only a handful of incidents where a survivor stumbles into a populated area, It's so uncommon and unlikely that people are not prepared to assume someone has crept back from a plane crash all the way through hell into civilization. It's a scenario people just don't consider. The most plausible conclusion most people reach is that they are dealing with a frantic hobo, a drunk or a drug addict, since you're going to look REALLY uncivil, weathered and filthy in a urban environment and you're most in shock, have impaired speech and you're going to be frantic, desperate, in panic or even rushing with euphoria. It's hard to convince someone you're safe to approach under those circumstances.