Autistic boy disqualified from competition ‘for swimming too fast’
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Rory Logan, 9, was competing in the Special Olympics regional finals in Bangor, north Wales, when he won the 50m race in 53.15 seconds.
The time was a personal best for the Irish boy who smashed his previous heat time of one minute and three seconds.
However, when it came to the medal ceremony, Rory was given a ribbon for participating instead of the gold he was expecting.
His mother, Briony Logan, said officials told her that her son didn’t get a medal because he was too fast for the race.
“Rory came to me and said: ‘Mum I didn’t do anything wrong, I won fair and square, what did I do?’. I was absolutely gutted for him," Ms Logan told Belfast Live.
“I went to speak to the officials and basically they said he had been disqualified because he swam too fast. No one can get over this decision.
“Apparently you can’t be more than 15 per cent faster than the time you swam in your heats just in case you are trying to swim slower in your heat to be placed in a lower division’s final.
“Rory swam 15.8 per cent faster than his heat but someone please explain to me how a nine-year-old child would think of doing that or being that calculating.”[/QUOTE]
Because we're ALL WINNERS!
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There was an autistic kid in my school who did a 90-degree turn during swimming class, reached the deep end of the pool, and almost drowned.
[quote]Apparently you can’t be more than 15 per cent faster than the time you swam in your heats just in case you are trying to swim slower in your heat to be placed in a lower division’s final.[/quote]
that makes sense but he was also only 0.8% faster than that
[QUOTE=JDER14;51442451]Because we're ALL WINNERS![/QUOTE]
[quote]“Apparently you can’t be more than 15 per cent faster than the time you swam in your heats just in case you are trying to swim slower in your heat to be placed in a lower division’s final.
“Rory swam 15.8 per cent faster than his heat but someone please explain to me how a nine-year-old child would think of doing that or being that calculating.”[/quote]
seems to be not the case
Sonic would be proud little Chandler.
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His parents probably told him to. If this was top division it wouldnt matter but if he's in a lower division then he's just a cheating brat.
15% difference is extroadinary difference in performance.
He won all 3 events by very large margins so he probably should have been in a higher division.
[QUOTE=JDER14;51442451]Because we're ALL WINNERS![/QUOTE]
Please read articles before shitposting.
It's fine to shitpost afterwards, but at least be informed.
Wow that's stupid.
Honestly it's probably the parent's fault. Encouraging your child to hold back so they have an easier time despite knowing the skill differences is a pretty bad move to pull, much less getting indignant about it. The boy probably didn't even comprehend properly why they'd have him do it.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;51442554]Wow that's stupid.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Divisions are pretty important. To keep competitions interesting and engaging for the audience and contestants you want the people to be within each-others skill levels, so that they all have a chance of winning.
I don't know much about swimming, but a 15% difference sounds absolutely massive. It IS possible that this was purely accidental, and in that case it would suck, but the rule exists for a good reason.
tons of reasons why he could be able to swim faster during the actual race rather than heats, but regarding that it's pretty bullshit that he gets his medal taken away.
Now pardon me for this question, but is 15 percent speed increase accurate? Did they take the fact of autism into the account? If I recall correctly, autism depletes an ability and increases another. Maybe we can take in the fact that this increased ability is his swimming? I may be misinformed on how autism works, but this is what I heard.
Edit: Fuck, I just realized I said deplete. I meant decrease. I still think I'm misinformed.
This guy explained better than I did.
[QUOTE=Jelman;51444038]:speechless:
Its kinda like with deaf and blind people where because they have lost on sense others may overcompensate. (like a blind person having really good hearing)
Because Autism usually leads to certain abilities and aspects of normality being "impaired" many autistic people can be seen to be extremely good at some things. Whether it be in knowledge and learning or swimming.
Its a spectrum so its different for everyone[/QUOTE]
Ok, yeah, this was what I was trying to go for. I just worded it really, [I]really[/I] badly.
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51442772]Now pardon me for this question, but is 15 percent speed increase accurate? Did they take the fact of autism into the account? If I recall correctly, autism depletes an ability and increases another. Maybe we can take in the fact that this increased ability is his swimming? I may be misinformed on how autism works, but this is what I heard.[/QUOTE]
It's comparing the speed to his previous speeds when they were figuring out what division to put him in.
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51442772]Now pardon me for this question, but is 15 percent speed increase accurate? Did they take the fact of autism into the account? If I recall correctly, autism depletes an ability and increases another. Maybe we can take in the fact that this increased ability is his swimming? I may be misinformed on how autism works, but this is what I heard.[/QUOTE]
Imagine an endurance race with cars that have several classes running at the same time, but instead of horsepower and weight being what defines which class your car goes in, it's your qualifying lap time. So now imagine a racing Lamborghini intentionally doing his lap 15% slower to be placed with the slower GT cars instead of the McClarens and Ferrari's, and once the race begins, he can just mop the floor because his car's much faster
It's like that. Sort of
I like how this thread has automatically gone to "He must be doing it intentionally to cheat", even though it was a new personal best for him.
It stinks for everyone involved, but it's completely understandable that they have the rule in place. Sadly, many situations don't have a nice solution.
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51442772]Now pardon me for this question, but is 15 percent speed increase accurate? Did they take the fact of autism into the account? [B]If I recall correctly, autism depletes an ability and increases another.[/B] Maybe we can take in the fact that this increased ability is his swimming? I may be misinformed on how autism works, but this is what I heard.[/QUOTE]
:what:
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51442772]autism depletes an ability and increases another.[/QUOTE]
excuse me
It's what I was told, I think I got misinformed. Pardon my ignorance
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51442772]Now pardon me for this question, but is 15 percent speed increase accurate? Did they take the fact of autism into the account? If I recall correctly, autism depletes an ability and increases another. Maybe we can take in the fact that this increased ability is his swimming? I may be misinformed on how autism works, but this is what I heard.[/QUOTE]
Well now we know that your autism has depleted
[QUOTE=Crimor;51443395]I like how this thread has automatically gone to "He must be doing it intentionally to cheat", even though it was a new personal best for him.[/QUOTE]
It hasn't though
[QUOTE=Crimor;51443395]I like how this thread has automatically gone to "He must be doing it intentionally to cheat", even though it was a new personal best for him.[/QUOTE]
Who's saying that? I only see "it's a rule in place for a reason".
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51442772]Now pardon me for this question, but is 15 percent speed increase accurate? Did they take the fact of autism into the account? If I recall correctly, [B]autism depletes an ability and increases another[/B]. Maybe we can take in the fact that this increased ability is his swimming? I may be misinformed on how autism works, but this is what I heard.
Edit: Fuck, I just realized I said deplete. I meant decrease. I still think I'm misinformed.[/QUOTE]
:speechless:
Its kinda like with deaf and blind people where because they have lost on sense others may overcompensate. (like a blind person having really good hearing)
Because Autism usually leads to certain abilities and aspects of normality being "impaired" many autistic people can be seen to be extremely good at some things. Whether it be in knowledge and learning or swimming.
Its a spectrum so its different for everyone
feels like another politically correct style rule ...
let's have competition about who is faster, but if you too fast against others or your previous record, then you disqualified ...
I feel sorry for the guy cause he tried his best and got pushed away ...
[QUOTE=Talishmar;51443830]Who's saying that? I only see "it's a rule in place for a reason".[/QUOTE]
These for example:
[QUOTE=RikohZX;51442569]Honestly it's probably the parent's fault. Encouraging your child to hold back so they have an easier time despite knowing the skill differences is a pretty bad move to pull, much less getting indignant about it. The boy probably didn't even comprehend properly why they'd have him do it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tasm;51442487]His parents probably told him to. If this was top division it wouldnt matter but if he's in a lower division then he's just a cheating brat.
15% difference is extroadinary difference in performance.[/QUOTE]
Is a 15% improvement impossible to reach by training hard? Just asking.
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