Parents often beat children for breaking rules. Some parents spank them. Others, like mine, use whips, belts or fly swatters. My parents were special. They used a fucking horsewhip.
Child abuse is defined as physically hurting a child, or not taking proper care of them. Corporal punishment is whipping them.
Wikipedia defines Corporal Punishment as follows:
[quote=Wikipedia][B]Corporal punishment[/B] is a kind of [U]physical punishment[/U] that involves the deliberate infliction of pain as retribution for an offence, or for the purpose of disciplining or reforming a wrongdoer, or to deter attitudes or behaviour deemed unacceptable. The term usually refers to methodically striking the offender with an implement, whether in judicial, domestic, or educational settings.[/quote]
[quote][B]Child abuse[/B] is the physical, sexual or emotional mistreatment of children.In the United States, the (CDC) define child maltreatment as any act or series of acts of commission or omission by a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm, or threat of harm to a child.[/quote]Whipping a child could arguably instill a hatred in the child which they will never have a chance to take out on their parents, so they whip their kids, creating a long line of parents who will physically abuse their children.
What is FP's opinion on this?
Child abuse. You're obviously a very shitty parent if you have to physically abuse your children to convince them you're right. Not to mention it can really fuck up the child.
No.
I've heard that some parents used heavy belts which have metal pieces that can cut the child as well. I don't know about that but my parents made me strip to my underwear and then they beat the shit out of me with a horse whip. If I tried to avoid it they beat me harder. I still have scars on my back that make me look like I was a fucking slave at one point.
Sometimes, you do have to slap some kids to get them to stop being stubborn little brats and teach them they're not always going to get things their way.
But hitting a kid with a whip or punching them is abuse no matter what way you spin it.
I strongly believe corporal punishment is in no way abuse, for it's perfectly natural to hit your sons with a spiked mace when they start to bitch, that's how my parents raised me, that's how I'll raise my sons.
I'll raise them to completely not be fucking pussies, and they shall deal with it.
[QUOTE=Sasasing;26361375]I strongly believe corporal punishment is in no way abuse, for it's perfectly natural to hit your sons with a spiked mace when they start to bitch, that's how my parents raised me, that's how I'll raise my sons.
I'll raise them to completely not be fucking pussies, and they shall deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Because teaching kids at an early age that violence is the solution is a GREAT idea!
A slap when your children are being seriously disobedient is enough. The shock will make them listen. But only for serious infractions. Anything less and I'll just make them kneel for half an hour.
No , because without it you'll have a bunch of disobedient spoilt asshoels
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26361332]I've heard that some parents used heavy belts which have metal pieces that can cut the child as well. I don't know about that but my parents made me strip to my underwear and then they beat the shit out of me with a horse whip. If I tried to avoid it they beat me harder. I still have scars on my back that make me look like I was a fucking slave at one point.[/QUOTE]
Talk to your parents.
I talked to my dad about it, and we both know it made me a better person. It also doesn't take a genius to realize that yelling and taking things away doesn't compare to an ass whooping.
I got spanked a couple times during my childhood, and I deserved every single one.
In my honest opinion, as long as it's just a spanking with no intention of causing actual pain, if the kid does something REALLY DANGEROUSLY stupid, it's fine. It worked for me. :v:
[QUOTE=Instant Mix;26361445]No , because without it you'll have a bunch of disobedient spoilt asshoels[/QUOTE]
Whats a spoilt asshoel? I've never heard of an asshoel before.
If I did something SERIOUSLY wrong as a kid, and knew it was wrong but did it anyway, I got my arse smacked.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;26361454]Talk to your parents.
I talked to my dad about it, and we both know it made me a better person. It also doesn't take a genius to realize that yelling and taking things away doesn't compare to an ass whooping.[/QUOTE]
Somehow I doubt your parents beat the flying fuck out of you with a horse whip.
There are just too many variables to count.
If the kid REALLY fucked something up, while being conscious of what he was doing and how dangerous or horrible it was, like putting a hamster in a microwave and attaching the rodent's remains to his knuckes with super glue, to punch his father in the genitalia, THEN adding a slap or two to the usual yelling and grounding is justifiable.
Otherwise it's pretty much abuse.
It builds character.
-Calvin's dad
No, using violence to raise your kid is just silly. I was never beat, spanked or anything and I've turned out great. If you're a good parent you shouldn't have to use violence to control your kid, it'll just teach him/her that violence is OK, and it's not.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26361492]Somehow I doubt your parents beat the flying fuck out of you with a horse whip.[/QUOTE]
My bad, it was a rusty wire. I'll just stop talking, then.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;26361503]it'll just teach him/her that violence is OK, and it's not.[/QUOTE]
It teaches you that if you do something bad, there will be consequences.
[QUOTE=CottonTM;26361497]It builds character.
-Calvin's dad[/QUOTE]
Lol quote child's comic get profit :downs:
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[QUOTE=JoeyZ;26361518]My bad, it was a rusty wire. I'll just stop talking, then.
It teaches you that if you do something bad, there will be consequences.[/QUOTE]
Yea, sure it was. If you honestly think it made you a better person, it was because your dad beat you until you said it, and he did it for so long that you eventually believed it. I feel sorry for you.
i should have been hit more as a kid
A good spanking seems to work best. It's not abusive, and it'll still put the fear into the child.
My parents never once laid a finger on me, and I've developed fine. Thus I think it's wrong and lazy for parents to physically punish their kids.
I have conflicted opinions about this. Some forms of corporal punishment are really cruel, but then there are those little shits who just need a good whack.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26361569]Yea, sure it was. If you honestly think it made you a better person, it was because your dad beat you until you said it, and he did it for so long that you eventually believed it. I feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for telling me how my childhood was, I always thought that I was the only person that knew about it, but clearly I'm wrong.
The problem with that is that the child's going to depend on a reward/punishment system, and they're not going to be ready for the real world. That's not how it works. It programs children to think, "Okay, if I do this, I'm going to get a spanking and life will go on." So a kid can mess up, get the spanking and continue on that way. But in the real world, if you mess up at your job, you don't just get a punishment and continue on. You get fired. Life doesn't work with reward and punishment. Also, the children can easily and with every right lose respect for the parents.
It's twisted. It's like, what, you love me, so you're going to hurt me? How does that make ANY sense?
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26361417]Because teaching kids at an early age that violence is the solution is a GREAT idea![/QUOTE]
It isn't a matter of violence dude,
it's a matter of how many spikes does the club has, that'll teach 'em little brats
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26361332]I've heard that some parents used heavy belts which have metal pieces that can cut the child as well. I don't know about that but my parents made me strip to my underwear and then they beat the shit out of me with a horse whip. If I tried to avoid it they beat me harder. I still have scars on my back that make me look like I was a fucking slave at one point.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between a spanking and a horse whip.
Although I personally disagree with corporal punishment on a child, spanking a child who is still too young to comprehend basic logic could be a good parenting technique.
[QUOTE=ConvolutedLogic;26361742]The problem with that is that the child's going to depend on a reward/punishment system, and they're not going to be ready for the real world. That's not how it works. It programs children to think, "Okay, if I do this, I'm going to get a spanking and life will go on." So a kid can mess up, get the spanking and continue on that way. But in the real world, if you mess up at your job, you don't just get a punishment and continue on. You get fired. Life doesn't work with reward and punishment. Also, the children can easily and with every right lose respect for the parents.
It's twisted. It's like, what, you love me, so you're going to hurt me? How does that make ANY sense?[/QUOTE]
Good response, but you don't 100% get fired, there's a chance you'd get a second chance.
Right, I know, but I was trying not to get too technical for the sake of the argument. You know what I mean- you can't always get a second chance when you mess up by getting a punishment.
[QUOTE=Esrange;26361489]If I did something SERIOUSLY wrong as a kid, and knew it was wrong but did it anyway, I got my arse smacked.[/QUOTE]
When a child does something seriously wrong I think parents should do one of those hilarious unconventional punishments that are seen in family sitcoms.
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