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[QUOTE]Vanessa West, general manager, poses on May 29, 2013, at the Metropolitan Wellness Center, one of three medical marijuana dispensaries that will soon be operating in Washington, D.C. | Olivier Douliery/MCT[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]WASHINGTON — As she prepares to open the Metropolitan Wellness Center above a Popeyes chicken restaurant a few blocks from the U.S. Capitol, general manager Vanessa West isn’t worried that her medical marijuana shop will get raided.
West knows she’ll be selling a drug that’s illegal under federal law, even though the District of Columbia city council has approved sales for medical use, but she expects the city to have a tightly run system.
“I was explaining it to a toddler a few weeks ago. It’s like if you’re in grade school and they say it’s OK to chew gum inside the classroom but it’s not in the hallway,” West said. “It just makes no sense.”
Operating in the shadow of Congress, the center – expected to open later this month – will mark one of the boldest moves yet for the nation’s marijuana movement, which is in full bloom this spring. It will be one of three that are expected to be operating soon in the district.
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mmm
weed :)
Hopefully the rest of the US will learn how much money they can make by taxing it.
Soon after, that popeyes will see a boom in business.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;40922444]Hopefully the rest of the US will learn how much money they can make by taxing it.[/QUOTE]
Barely enough to make a dent in GDP, it's a specialist product consumed by adults. (And when Hemp is potentially legalized later on this year, that will probably have an even smaller dent, because it has such restricted uses).
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922464]Barely enough to make a dent in GDP, it's a specialist product consumed by adults. (And when Hemp is potentially legalized later on this year, that will probably have an even smaller dent, because it has such restricted uses).[/QUOTE]
i just googled alcohol tax revenue in the USA and it's like, 6 billion dollars and that's pretty much on the same level isn't it? 6 billion dollars is a spicy meatball
[editline]7th June 2013[/editline]
and another thing that will have to be taken into account is how much money is SAVED in law enforcement and prison related costs
Good, now keep it moving, New york has also passed through about 3 stages of legislation to have it legal which I am very pumped for. Nice to see we're making progress, lets move it forward.
[QUOTE=furious_d;40922449]Soon after, that popeyes will see a boom in business.[/QUOTE]
So it [B]WASN'T[/B] spinach he jammed into his corn cob pipe?
[QUOTE=furious_d;40922449]Soon after, that popeyes will see a boom in business.[/QUOTE]
haha, really all of the food industry will be ever so slightly boosted by this.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;40922444]Hopefully the rest of the US will learn how much money they can make by taxing it.[/QUOTE]
Being able to make money off something is a stupid reason to legalize it.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40922512]i just googled alcohol tax revenue in the USA and it's like, 6 billion dollars and that's pretty much on the same level isn't it? 6 billion dollars is a spicy meatball
[editline]7th June 2013[/editline]
and another thing that will have to be taken into account is how much money is SAVED in law enforcement and prison related costs[/QUOTE]
Given that 6 billion from the sales of alcohol is nothing compared to over 15 trillion for the GDP, I would say the dent is tiny.
6 billion is practically a third of NASA's budget.
[quote]and another thing that will have to be taken into account is how much money is SAVED in law enforcement and prison related costs[/quote]
I don't think you're going to save that much just by legalizing marijuana.
[QUOTE=Paramud;40922534]Being able to make money off something is a stupid reason to legalize it.[/QUOTE]
It's also stupid to keep it illegal when much more dangerous products are legal.
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922538]Given that 6 billion from the sales of alcohol is nothing compared to over 15 trillion for the GDP, I would say the dent is tiny.
6 billion is practically a third of NASA's budget.[/QUOTE]
Money is money, also the police would spend less time busting people for toking, and less people would be in jail for dealing it.
Smock weed every day.
[QUOTE=Paramud;40922534]Being able to make money off something is a stupid reason to legalize it.[/QUOTE]
That isn't the reason why, the reason for legalisation is because of the amount of time they're wasting trying to enforce the ban and it's not working.
Taxing it isn't gonna work either, I don't think anyone realises that yet.
[QUOTE=Paramud;40922534]Being able to make money off something is a stupid reason to legalize it.[/QUOTE]
Alright then, how about the thousands of people who are wrongfully arrested for simply possessing the flower of a plant that simply makes them chill out and enjoy some food and adult swim (to put it "bluntly") And as much as I agree money SHOULDN'T be such a priority, that's not how the world works, and it is, and therefore money is a very important aspect of our society.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922541]Money is money, also the police would spend less time busting people for toking, and less people would be in jail for dealing it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it would be a net good, although people like to exaggerate the benefits that marijuana or hemp legalization would bring.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922541]It's also stupid to keep it illegal when much more dangerous products are legal.[/QUOTE]
Which is completely irrelevant to my point. You can make money off [b]everything[/b] that's illegal, that doesn't mean you should legalize it just to make a buck off it.
If you truly think that profit is a good enough justification when it comes to justice, I suggest you never have a position of power in the government.
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[QUOTE=Legend286;40922551]That isn't the reason why, the reason for legalisation is because of the amount of time they're wasting trying to enforce the ban and it's not working.[/QUOTE]
It's the reason I was responding to.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;40922444]Hopefully the rest of the US will learn how much money they can make by taxing it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Legend286;40922551]That isn't the reason why, the reason for legalisation is because of the amount of time they're wasting trying to enforce the ban and it's not working.
Taxing it isn't gonna work either, I don't think anyone realises that yet.[/QUOTE]
Taxing already works in places like amsterdam, how do you figure it isn't going to work in the US?
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[QUOTE=Paramud;40922563]Which is completely irrelevant to my point. You can make money off [B]everything[/B] that's illegal, that doesn't mean you should legalize it just to make a buck off it.
If you truly think that profit is a good enough justification when it comes to justice, I suggest you never have a position of power in the government.[/QUOTE]
By your logic you can make money off of anything then, legal or otherwise. Also you have no idea of the true meaning of justice, if you believe that cannabis being outlawed is unjust, when it's entirely 100% the other way around.
I'd explain, but I don't really want to take the time to type it all out, but essentially it's only true reason it was illegalized, was that competing companies against hemp, along with greedy politicians hoping to further their careers, decided to demonize the drug and plant to the general public with false accusations, primarily but not limited to, african americans becoming rather violent, and other outrageous claims that it was the drugs responsibility (which, for any drug I find it ludicrous to blame the actual substance, and not the moron taking it irresponsibly, but that's another story)
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922538]Given that 6 billion from the sales of alcohol is nothing compared to over 15 trillion for the GDP, I would say the dent is tiny.
6 billion is practically a third of NASA's budget.
I don't think you're going to save that much just by legalizing marijuana.[/QUOTE]
even if it only made 6 dollars it'd be worth it! and again, you're still saving money!
[QUOTE=zach1193;40922565]By your logic you can make money off of anything then, legal or otherwise. Also you have no idea of the true meaning of justice, if you believe that cannabis being outlawed is unjust, when it's entirely 100% the other way around.[/QUOTE]
I really don't understand what you're trying to say.
[QUOTE=Paramud;40922563]Which is completely irrelevant to my point. You can make money off [b]everything[/b] that's illegal, that doesn't mean you should legalize it just to make a buck off it.
If you truly think that profit is a good enough justification when it comes to justice, I suggest you never have a position of power in the government.
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i agree just that you can make money off it is no justification, it should be legalized in the name of peoples rights
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40922590]even if it only made 6 dollars it'd be worth it! and again, you're still saving money![/QUOTE]
If it made 6 dollars a year and it cost 3 million to finish the paperwork and pass all the laws, it wouldn't be a very economically sound policy.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922556]Yes, it would be a net good, although people like to exaggerate the benefits that marijuana or hemp legalization would bring.[/QUOTE]
You mean just like how the negative side of it were greatly exaggerated in order to make it illegal in the first place? :haw:
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40922599]i agree just that you can make money off it is no justification, it should be legalized in the name of peoples rights[/QUOTE]
And that's an argument I wouldn't have contested.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922606]You mean just like how the negative side of it were greatly exaggerated in order to make it illegal in the first place? :haw:[/QUOTE]
I gave a brief little history of how it became legal up above, if anyone's interested.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922601]If it made 6 dollars a year and it cost 3 million to finish the paperwork and pass all the laws, it wouldn't be a very economically sound policy.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/20/marijuana-prohibition-costs_n_3123397.html[/url]
spend 3 million, save 20 billion, earn 6!
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922606]You mean just like how the negative side of it were greatly exaggerated in order to make it illegal in the first place? :haw:[/QUOTE]
Two wrongs don't make a right. Claiming things like the constitution being written on hemp paper(when it wasn't), or how useful it is for treating cancer (when it's only used for specialist cases of certain types of cancer), are kind of lying or exaggerating as well.
I can imagine entire national parks made of weed after it becomes legalized.
Buds 2 stories high and thick smoke rolling over green hills in the cool spring air as a golden sun rises over the horizon.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40922615][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/20/marijuana-prohibition-costs_n_3123397.html[/url]
spend 3 million, save 20 billion, earn 6![/QUOTE]
Should have mentioned this earlier then.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922626]Two wrongs don't make a right. Claiming things like the constitution being written on hemp paper(when it wasn't), or how useful it is for treating cancer (when it's only used for specialist cases of certain types of cancer), are kind of lying or exaggerating as well.[/QUOTE]
So fuck correcting past mistakes, lets maintain status quo? OK...
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