As North Korea celebrates, Kerry outlines conditions for negotiations - Polidicks

[quote](CNN) -- As North Koreans celebrated the birthday on Monday of their country's late founder, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry urged the regime in Pyongyang to ditch its nuclear program and put a lid on its fiery threats if it wants to hold talks. "The United States has made clear many times what the conditions are for our entering talks and they haven't changed," Kerry said during an interview with CNN's Jill Dougherty in Tokyo. "The conditions have to be met where the North has to move towards denuclearization, indicate a seriousness in doing so by reducing these threats, stop the testing, and indicate it's actually prepared to negotiate," he said. Kerry was speaking at the end of a three-day trip that focused on securing fresh commitments from South Korea, China and Japan to try to persuade Pyongyang to return to the negotiating table and renounce nuclear weapons. His visit followed weeks of dramatic threats by Kim Jong Un's regime, including that of a nuclear strike on the United States and South Korea. There is uncertainty about how advanced the North's nuclear weapons program is, but Kerry on Monday reiterated the U.S. government view that Pyongyang doesn't yet have the capacity to carry out a nuclear attack. Last month, North Korea scrapped the 1953 truce that effectively ended the Korean War and said it was nullifying the joint declaration on the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. It also recently pledged to restart a reactor at its main nuclear complex that had been shut down under an agreement reached in October 2007 during talks with the United States, South Korea and four other countries. Kerry said Monday that the United States is concerned that North Korea's dogged pursuit of its nuclear weapons program could have consequences elsewhere in the world. "It is the belief of President Obama, myself and the administration that what happens here also has an impact on perceptions in places like Iran, the Middle East, and elsewhere where we're engaged in nonproliferation efforts," he said. Pyongyang insists that its nuclear weapons are a necessary deterrent because of the threat posed to it by the United States and its allies. Multilateral talks on North Korea's nuclear program have ended in failure in the past, and Kerry said the United States isn't interested in going over old ground. "We're not going to go through another cycle of artificial negotiations that are geared to simply attract some kind of aid or lull in events while they continue to pursue their devices' designs," he said.[/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1[/url]

Once again, they are making use of the same tactic. The US has to stop giving in to them. All they'll do is cry and scream and then get aid and shit.

[QUOTE=shian;40291276]Once again, they are making use of the same tactic. The US has to stop giving in to them. All they'll do is cry and scream and then get aid and shit.[/QUOTE] Like a baby crying for a bottle

Until the upper classes are affected I'm pretty sure there really is no incentive for the DPRK to do anything.

You only win by starving them out till the point they give you what you want.

They don't want to play nice and act like a fucking brat, they can go to bed without supper. Worst they can do is start a war. Un has no idea how bad a starving country will hold up in a war.

Motherfuckers.

[QUOTE=Unmercy;40291833]They don't want to play nice and act like a fucking brat, they can go to bed without supper. Worst they can do is start a war. Un has no idea how bad a starving country will hold up in a war.[/QUOTE] A scared, cornered beast is the scariest thing you can possibly encounter. Hunger might drain physically but a person does everything in his power to survive. If the knife reaches the bone, the people will rebel, no matter how much they believe in the leader.

Regardless of their intentions or their leadership or their fucked up political agenda, it should not be up to the US whether or not they are a nuclear state. The Korean people value independence and pride above most things, and there is no absolutely no independence in being told by some power that's both thousands of miles away, and also kinda right next door in the South, that you are simply not allowed to be among the rest of us. There is no pride in knowing that some foreigner determines the status of your nation. This is the reason for all the dick waving and the threats and the nonsense, they're absolutely fucking serious about this. And the Korean people understand their government and its propaganda and what is wrong with it far more than you might think they do, but they also desire their independence and seem to believe that the leadership is, in at least this one area, doing right by them. North Korea is no threat, they simply want what the rest of us have and I'm sure if they ever get it they'll open up their borders and modernize exactly like South Korea. If anyone needs to be restricted from nuclear activities, it's India and Pakistan, they fucking hate each other and they don't stand at the border staring at each other like Koreans do, they make a show of how much they want to murder each other. But again, the same argument stands, it is not our place to tell either India or Pakistan or North Korea what they can and cannot do.

Is it illegal to have the name "Best Korea" in a thread title anymore or something?

[QUOTE=Unmercy;40291833]They don't want to play nice and act like a fucking brat, they can go to bed without supper. Worst they can do is start a war. Un has no idea how bad a starving country will hold up in a war.[/QUOTE] Except then they'd be severely rationing food for the citizens and giving the food to soldiers and officials. They'd no doubt sacrifice their civilians if it kept their military afloat.