Disgusting net event of the Month: Flash Game Makes Players Beat Up "Tropes vs. Women" Creator
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[url]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118310-Flash-Game-Makes-Players-Beat-Up-Tropes-vs-Women-Creator[/url]
[quote]Creator calls Anita Sarkeesian's Kickstarter a "scam."
When FeministFrequency writer and videomaker Anita Sarkeesian started a Kickstarter to fund a video series examining problematic and sexist tropes regarding female characters in videogames, she sought a paltry $6,000 to make it happen. After igniting a reactionary misogynist firestorm, she came away with over $160,000. The harassment campaign against Sarkeesian hasn't ended with the Kickstarter, though; it now includes an interactive videogame where the player is invited to punch her in the face.
"Anita Sarkeesian has not only scammed thousands of people out of over $160,000," writes the game's maker, who goes by the handle of "Bendilin," "but also uses the excuse that she is a woman to get away with whatever she damn well pleases. Any form of constructive criticism, even from fellow women, is either ignored or labelled to be sexist against her."
"She claims to want gender equality in video games, but in reality, she just wants to use the fact that she was born with a vagina to get free money and sympathy from everyone who crosses her path."
There has, in fact, been a ton of reasonable (and not-so-reasonable) discourse in the gaming community recently regarding the treatment of women in and out of games. Some of that discourse agrees with Sarkeesian, and some of it does not, and even criticizes her. Most of it manages to do so without being sexist, even.
But that's besides the point being made here. Kickstarter doesn't hide the amount of money that has been donated. People chose to give to Sarkeesian's project knowing full well that it had wildly outstripped not just the original $6,000 mark but all of its stretch goals. By that very definition, as long as she works on the video series and delivers, calling it a "scam" is a ridiculous stretch even if you disagree with her viewpoints.
What makes this so troubling isn't that people disagree with her viewpoints - which is in itself perfectly reasonable - but that there is a campaign of harassment to keep her from expressing her viewpoints in the first place.
Of course, the great irony here is that the vicious response is not only giving Sarkeesian's cause way more publicity than it would have otherwise gotten, but does more to illustrate the problem of misogyny in nerd/gamer culture way more than a video series ever could.
Because seriously, making a videogame about beating a woman in the face for daring to express the point of view that a male-dominated industry doesn't always treat women and female characters like it should, is kind of just making her point for her.
Source: Newgrounds, via Destructoid
Update: The game has been "blammed" by Newgrounds users, effectively removing it from the site. That's probably for the best.[/quote]
:suicide:
"She claims to want gender equality in video games, but in reality, she just wants to use the fact that she was born with a vagina to get free money and sympathy from everyone who crosses her path."
I am just about ready now to throw my morals to the wind and fight to institute eugenics in full force. It boggles the mind how stupid some people can be.
Oh misogyny, when will you ever cease to confound me? Bigots are fun to watch, they're like self-destructive little packages that run headlong into walls!
while I expect no one to learn anything new from "Tropes vs. Women"
That's still extremely childish.
Good job, this will show her gamers don't hate women!... Wait.
This entire situation seems like dumbfuck vs dumbfuck to be honest.
One side wants to do the fools errand of attempting to get red of gaming misogyny (Fat chance since most devs with misogyny in their games are Japanese and would never take this seriously), and the other side is a bunch of retarded sperglords that want their games to be full of fap material.
Welp.
I'm against her Tropes Vs. Women videos because she's terrible at making documentaries and the subjects she's chosen are based entirely on looks. However, this is fucking bullshit, she's just trying, in her own inept way, to highlight the problems of gender balance* in gaming. Sure, everyone with a brain knows it's a problem but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed.
*I say gender balance because it's not misogyny. There's a disproportionate number of males characters because the vast majority of developers and players are male, and they design characters to be like them.
Link me to that game. I'll beat her to a bloody pulp. I still agree with her right to express her views.
"But you just beat her up in a video game!"
Will you loosen your panties! It's a Video Game and if you're in the discussion of it as a viable medium then all i will have to tell you is that it's obviously an arcade beat'em'up. It's just a gam- oh... it's gone. Well that's fine. It WAS pretty juvenile anyway...
[url]http://www.newgrounds.com/collection/assassin[/url]
Was this really a big deal? I might be remembering things incorrectly, but don't submissions on Newgrounds gain what is basically immunity after the initial judgement period, meaning the submission was only up for a few hours at most?
Lets look at it this way, at least they made a female in a game with no sex appeal, just like she wanted.
I honestly don't see any problem with this
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36676871]there is almost an equal balance of male and female gamers, janus
game devs, i dont know[/QUOTE]
Game devs is extremely leaned towards males. At the college we have a 2 to 25 ratio of women to men.
[QUOTE=The golden;36676952]""She claims to want gender equality in video games, but in reality, she just wants to use the fact that she was born with a vagina to get free money and sympathy from everyone who crosses her path.""
Well, this pretty much confirms that the creator of this has brain damage.[/QUOTE]
either he's five or it's either Purple Crow or CWC that made it.
[editline]8th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=redshift2234;36676989]Game devs is extremely leaned towards males. At the college we have a 2 to 25 ratio of women to men.[/QUOTE]
That's not the same as sexist though. I mean. No one is enough nurde to not have had enough contact with women to be disillusioned with Cooties and "LOLVAGINA" after they turned 20... right?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36676871]there is almost an equal balance of male and female gamers, janus
game devs, i dont know[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the super srs core gamer group most AAA companies go for is mostly males between 18-35. I'm not saying there aren't a lot of girls, I'm just saying they're under represented in the industry and the community, so it's natural for them to be under represented in the games.
Optimistic vs. jackass.
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;36676970]I honestly don't see any problem with this[/QUOTE]
Hi, Bendilin.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;36676995]
That's not the same as sexist though. I mean. No one is enough nurde to not have had enough contact with women to be disillusioned with Cooties and "LOLVAGINA" after they turned 20... right?[/QUOTE]
No, but perhaps if we had more female devs the problem with potentially sexist characters would probably seem a lot less apparent.
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;36676970]I honestly don't see any problem with this[/QUOTE]
wow a male gamer doesn't see anything wrong with blatant misogyny?? who would have thunk??
It became "blammed": [url]http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/598591[/url]
[QUOTE=The golden;36677076]Then you need to seek help[/QUOTE]
It's a flash game, people make offensive ones all the time and I honestly have no problem with them. Remember all those Bush beat em' ups? Sure they were stupid but who cares it's just some game some guy made.
Its just her, feminists and a bunch of white knights complaining because if flash game was a male nobody would give a shit, it'd be hilarious. I'm just gonna be blunt, in my opinion Anita is a retard, you either support her work or you're a rapist and she even says retarded shit like how we live in a "rape culture". Not only that but her fans are idiots too, resorting to hypocritical abuse towards the creator of the flash game and attempting to abosolutly ruin his life by trying to get him in jail so he knows what rape is like or so he can never hold down a job again.
But hey, I probably just dont see the bigger picture. I'm a greedy pigdog man stuck in his rape culture.
did someone give justin beiber this much attention when a justin beiber punch up game happened
because, you know, equality.
meanwhile, here's the only sane video ever going to be made about the female video game thing
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZueOCLGt1tw&feature=player_detailpage[/media]
Some people just need to stop caring so damn much.
The more you care, the worse they'll make the next game.
All this hate on the Tropes vs. Women creator probably created more sympathy for her than anything. Her kickstarter probably wouldn't have gotten so many donations if it weren't for the fact that so many misogynist retards started doing shit like this. Congratulations, dumbshits, you accomplished exactly the opposite of what you intended.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igXz_hXKUcE&feature=plcp[/media]
Pretty much sums up my opinion
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;36677268]All this hate on the Tropes vs. Women creator probably created more sympathy for her than anything. Her kickstarter probably wouldn't have gotten so many donations if it weren't for the fact that so many misogynist retards started doing shit like this. Congratulations, dumbshits, you accomplished exactly the opposite of what you intended.[/QUOTE]
yea i have to agree though
give her less attention = Less publicity
it's how trolling works too.
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;36677100]It's a flash game, people make offensive ones all the time and I honestly have no problem with them. Remember all those Bush beat em' ups? Sure they were stupid but who cares it's just some game some guy made.[/QUOTE]
It mostly has to do with the context of it. I'm glad that this documentary was released. He and this entire fiasco surrounding a single [i]documentary[/i] about stereotypical female characters in videogames proves that most people aren't ready for a change in character development for female characters. No, I'm not saying that they're future sexist wife beaters, but they should encourage game developers to branch out more. It'll be bland if we see the same stereotypes over and over again.
This controversy has lasted for how long, one month?
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;36677336]It mostly has to do with the context of it. I'm glad that this documentary was released. He and this entire fiasco surrounding a single [I]documentary[/I] about stereotypical female characters in videogames proves that most people aren't ready for a change in character development for female characters. No, I'm not saying that they're future sexist wife beaters, but they should encourage game developers to branch out more. It'll be bland if we see the same stereotypes over and over again.
This controversy has lasted for how long, one month?[/QUOTE]
We need stronger female characters but this stupid tropes documentary thing that they ripped off $160,000 off of people isn't the way to go about doing it.
i mean why the fuck does she need money anyway? she has a studio already, the camera equipment is there, What could she need 160k for?
at least the[URL="http://www.indiegogo.com/misandryinvideogames"] misandry guys over at indie gogo[/URL] will donate the money to charity instead of use for profit.
This is the part where Sex debate ruins video games and Tomb Raider is no longer allowed to not wear glasses and not be a flat chest...
[QUOTE=Wii60;36677348]We need stronger female characters but this stupid tropes documentary thing that they ripped off $160,000 off of people isn't the way to go about doing it.
i mean why the fuck does she need money anyway? she has a studio already, the camera equipment is there, What could she need 160k for?[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but initially she didn't ask for the 160k, she asked for 3k. It later over-exceeded that amount.
I don't think you could close your Kickstarter until the due day has been reached.
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