• Clinton wins Puerto Rico primary
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[media]https://twitter.com/Pasquines_US/status/739629006992080897[/media] Depending on the final vote margin ([url=http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/pr/Dem]currently 64-35[/url]) Clinton will likely end up ~20 delegates from becoming the presumptive Democratic nominee. In terms of interesting shit that happened in PR, over 1000 polling stations were closed for the election and Sanders supporters started calling voter suppression, until it was revealed that it was the Sanders campaign's fault that the stations were closed: [url]http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282285-puerto-rico-long-lines-polling-stations[/url] [quote]The commonwealth initially had 1,510 polling locations. But it announced last month that the number of polling locations would be cut to 455 for the Sunday primary. Robert Prats, president of the Democratic Party on the island, said the 455 locations are four times more than the number of polling locations open in the Republican primary in March. Supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders were up in arms over the cuts, with supporters tweeting about the change. A "Sanders for President" reddit page also called the reduction "about as bad as Arizona" and dozens of Sanders supporters voiced concerns about the cuts on the page. But the local party told MSNBC that the Sanders campaign had requested fewer stations.[/quote] [media]https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/739610752470921216[/media] And this: [media]https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/739607716713271297[/media]
Too bad puerto Rico only contributes to the popular vote and not the electoral, otherwise their votes would matter more.
Why is it the sanders campaigns fault the voting station closed? As far as i know they literally have nothing to gain by closing polling station, and shutting polling stations is a tactic that the DNC has used before.
I think the more important thing now is why the sanders campaign requested less stations. That's a little fucky given the recent events. If it's true, that is.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;50462509]Why is it the sanders campaigns fault the voting station closed? As far as i know they literally have nothing to gain by closing polling station, and shutting polling stations is a tactic that the DNC has used before.[/QUOTE] It says in the OP lmao. The Sanders team didn't have enough staff to man 1,500 polling stations, so they requested that number be cut to ~500 so they could have staff at every polling station.
[QUOTE=Rebecca Savransky, The Hill]But the local party told MSNBC that the Sanders campaign had requested fewer stations.[/QUOTE] Notice how it says local party. That quote in the OP was from Lisa Ortiz, National Committeewoman of the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico. Something feels a little fishy when the polling locations in PR go from 2,300 to 430; while it is true that there could have been a horrible budget, but the only window of voting was through 8 am to 3 pm on a Sunday. That bottlenecks the process. A lot of people were waiting out there in the heat, many giving up and going home. Personally, I don't think Sanders would want to do such a thing.
[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;50462511]I think the more important thing now is why the sanders campaign requested less stations. That's a little fucky given the recent events. If it's true, that is.[/QUOTE] Look at my response above
[QUOTE=sb27;50462539]It says in the OP lmao. The Sanders team didn't have enough staff to man 1,500 polling stations, so they requested that number be cut to ~500 so they could have staff at every polling station.[/QUOTE] Huh, apparently it seems that representatives from both parties must be present to hand count the ballots. Keeps things clearer but fucks over smaller campaigns. Don't think it really matters though.
Blame it on sanders that you closed down polling station's because you didn't have enough money.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;50462552]Huh, apparently it seems that representatives from both parties must be present to hand count the ballots. Keeps things clearer but fucks over smaller campaigns. Don't think it really matters though.[/QUOTE] Staff for each candidate must be present so that the vote counting process is accountable. Everyone here would (rightfully) whinge if only Clinton staff were at two-thirds of the polling stations, because that could disadvantage Sanders through Clinton staffers being dishonest. It's simple really. All 1,500 polling stations would have been open if Sanders was actually a popular candidate in Puerto Rico. Instead, as corroborated by the source in the OP, you have Sanders supporters whinging that the system is broken rather than admitting that their candidate fairly lost!
It should also be noted that PR is still counting their votes, with 36.42% reporting on PR's site. Of course, I'm not expecting an upset at this point, but hoping Sanders will come out with at least 40% at the end of all this.
[QUOTE=ChrisR;50462599]It should also be noted that PR is still counting their votes, with 36.42% reporting on PR's site. Of course, I'm not expecting an upset at this point, but hoping Sanders will come out with at least 40% at the end of all this.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't really matter even if he came out with 50.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50462556]Blame it on sanders that you closed down polling station's because you didn't have enough money.[/QUOTE] puerto rico [I]is going bankrupt[/I] so is it that shocking their local parties don't get many donations
[QUOTE=Sableye;50462663]puerto rico [I]is going bankrupt[/I] so is it that shocking their local parties don't get many donations[/QUOTE] I know I just think it's stupid to say it is Sander's Fault
An official statement regarding the claims that the Sanders campaign requested fewer ballots: [QUOTE] SAN DIEGO – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign issued the following statement Sunday on long lines at polling places in Puerto Rico’s Democratic Party presidential primary election: “Some Puerto Rico Democratic officials are claiming that the Sanders campaign requested fewer polling places in today’s primary contest. That’s completely false. The opposite is true. In emails with the party, Sanders’ staff asked the party to maintain the 1,500 plus presidential primary locations promised by the Puerto Rico Democratic party in testimony before the DNC in April, when the party was asking to have its caucus changed to a primary. They cannot blame their shoddy running of the primary on our campaign. This is just one example of irregularities going on in Puerto Rico voting today. We are the campaign that has been fighting to increase voter participation.” [/QUOTE] Source: [url]https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-campaign-statement-puerto-rico-polling-places/[/url]
40 superdelegates ready to pledge despite it being literally impossible for them to because they can't pledge lol
[QUOTE=ChrisR;50462850]An official statement regarding the claims that the Sanders campaign requested fewer ballots: Source: [url]https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-campaign-statement-puerto-rico-polling-places/[/url][/QUOTE] Well that's fun. We've got one side blaming the other. I trust the sanders camp more.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;50462886]Well that's fun. We've got one side blaming the other. I trust the sanders camp more.[/QUOTE] nah the campaign really did ask for a reduction. this has more to do with the fact that nobody volunteered to help in the primaries (around 1000 volunteers for 1500 polling places from both campaigns) than it did with some conspiracy. most volunteers were helping in the local primaries (there were two on the same day for the main parties here) while the dem primaries had skeleton crews running it. for what it's worth the dem party spokepersons said it wasn't sander's or hilary's fault this happened. people here just don't care about the primaries seeing as we can't vote in the actual elections, and besides we had local primaries the same day, much more important for the average puerto rican.
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