The DWP still has the audacity to say we aren't trying hard enough...
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One and a half thousand job seekers queued for three hours or more in a desperate attempt to nab one of just 40 positions at [URL="http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/aldi%20inc."]supermarket giants Aldi.[/URL]The hopeful men and women joined the queue at 10am on Friday despite the interviews not starting until 1pm, forcing staff to start 20 minutes early.
Each candidate was given a mini-interview with management teams from branches of [URL="http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/supermarkets"]the supermarket[/URL] before handing in their CV and contact details.
A teenager, who did not want to be named and joined the 1,500-person queue at noon at the Bridgnorth store in Shropshire, said: “I knew it started at 1pm so I wanted to get here early, but I didn’t expect there to be that many people.
“I walked right up to the store and then noticed the queue - and my heart sank. I walked to the back and it just went on and on, I didn’t think it would ever stop.
“Before I got there I thought I would have a good chance of getting the job, but when I saw all those people I lost hope a bit."
[URL="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/aldi-1500-people-queue-three-3275527"]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-three-3275527[/URL]
most supermarkets are staffed by a tonne of undergrads and even graduates. no wonder it's hard as fuck to get a job there when you've got people studying law at one of the top univerities in the country putting tins on shelves. sadly most under-qualified people need to look at something even lower than stacking shelves... which says a lot about the sorry state of our university culture really
Frustrates me seeing this, so so much.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44338878]most supermarkets are staffed by a tonne of undergrads and even graduates. no wonder it's hard as fuck to get a job there when you've got people studying law at one of the top univerities in the country putting tins on shelves. sadly most under-qualified people need to look at something even lower than stacking shelves... which says a lot about the sorry state of our university culture really[/QUOTE]
What can possibly be lower than stacking shelves? Bathroom janitors?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44338929]What can possibly be lower than stacking shelves? Bathroom janitors?[/QUOTE]
Try working in broken down warehouses, being treated like a number, standing in one place for the majority of the day.
Fruit picking, factory line work.
Same deal in sweden. I went to a drop in interview a couple of weeks ago and they where looking for 15 ppl and there was well over 800 there.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44338929]What can possibly be lower than stacking shelves? Bathroom janitors?[/QUOTE]
yes? but not necessarily something like that. there's loads of places less obvious to look for work than a supermarket - it's basically the first thing everyone thinks of when they think "i need a job quick". there's smaller shop chains, smaller food chains, local shops, things like that. although of course sadly those places are less likely to be hiring than the bigger supermarket chains
but please don't misinterpret this post as "wow people just need to look harder!" because i'm aware that's not easy and our job market is totally fucked, for precisely the reason i said in my post - we've got fucking graduates working as shelf-stackers
I find it funny that one of the things the people who remember times of Socialist Czech republic give as one of the examples of how bad socialism was is that well educated people ended up doing menial work instead of pursuing the careers they studied for.
Lo and behold, there we are, some of today's highly educated people have to FIGHT for menial work. And they often had to pay sizeable amount of money for their education.
Not that it would justify the old system or anything, it's just one of the ironies about the bright free future we so gladly worked towards.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44338878]most supermarkets are staffed by a tonne of undergrads and even graduates. no wonder it's hard as fuck to get a job there when you've got people studying law at one of the top univerities in the country putting tins on shelves. sadly most under-qualified people need to look at something even lower than stacking shelves... which says a lot about the sorry state of our university culture really[/QUOTE]
I'm an undergraduate student and I work in grocery, and two points 1) just because I study accounting doesn't yet qualify me for an accounting position (nor would I find any similar position anyways, with being at uni four days per week and so I need to work a nighttime job to work around uni), and 2) I live by myself and still need to pay the rent and put food on the table. I don't think it's anything about a sorry state of university culture, it's more of being realistic and only getting out what you put in.
[editline]25th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=rhx123;44338945]Fruit picking, factory line work.[/QUOTE]
This. Between school and uni I applied for a job at a chicken processing plant, got accepted and had my first shift within a week with zero work experience, and earning $25 an hour as a 17 year old fresh out of senior school.
They say things like that here too, the reality is that some reporters are just dickheads and say people aren't trying and Gen Y is soo lazy. 2009 was especially had to get a job here.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;44339107]This. Between school and uni I applied for a job at a chicken processing plant, got accepted and had my first shift within a week with zero work experience, and earning $25 an hour as a 17 year old fresh out of senior school.[/QUOTE]
Shit, my friend works at Ericsson as a junior software engineer and doesn't get half of that.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44339282]Shit, my friend works at Ericsson as a junior software engineer and doesn't get half of that.[/QUOTE]
It's an Australian thing. The average wage for a supermarket shelf packer who is over the age of 20 is like $22 an hour (as a 19 year old I get almost $20 an hour). Not including penalty rates (bonus pay for working on weekends or any hours that you aren't rostered for), superannuation contributions (like a savings account that you can only access when you retire) and accumulated personal leave (getting paid to have holidays if you accumulate enough leave).
I was thinking of joining the reservists because I was told by the Job Centre "oh there aren't any jobs in the area".
[QUOTE=rhx123;44338945]Fruit picking, factory line work.[/QUOTE]
Shit, I had a shift at a factory line, they wanted me to get there by 6 am (would require me to walk for two hours, since I have no transport to get up there) and finish at 5 pm. I did one shift, never want to go back. Literally felt my brain just wasting away, I can't imagine doing it every day just so I can have a bit of extra change in my pocket. Much respect for the people who do the job, but it's just not for me, I need something to keep my head going.
Of course, the DWP still treat everyone like pieces of shit, and don't actually help anyone at all most of the time. Bleh.
[QUOTE=Britishboy;44341646]I was thinking of joining the reservists because I was told by the Job Centre "oh there aren't any jobs in the area".[/QUOTE]
Same here, I went to the job centre and they directed me to the Army and Navy office, saying if you really want a job or the money try that if you want.
IDK how aldi is in the UK but they are the second highest-paying entry level job in my entire state. It's really really hard to get a job with them, sometimes 1:100 jobs:employment seekers.
It's pretty easy to get a job as a student in Germany since the employer doesn't have to pay your insurance as long as it's still your "first education" after school and you're below 24.
Never had problems with that and nowadays I work at the University for 450€ a month, it's not much but it gets me through.
[QUOTE=Britishboy;44341646]I was thinking of joining the reservists because I was told by the Job Centre "oh there aren't any jobs in the area".[/QUOTE]
Do it - the Reserve is catastrophically undermanned at the moment. I am amazed that there aren't queues outside the recruiting offices.
Then again, you'll have to deal with Capita, so good luck on that front.
[QUOTE=Matriax;44342564]Do it - the Reserve is catastrophically undermanned at the moment. I am amazed that there aren't queues outside the recruiting offices.
Then again, you'll have to deal with Capita, so good luck on that front.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I think I will. I was going to see about becoming a tank crewman. Plus, if I like it then I can go full time.
This pisses me off. I've been stuck on jobseekers for 4 years now. I've done countless courses and only just finished a 2 year work programme and they put me into a meeting to learn about how the system has changed since I started the work programme. The first thing the woman said that pissed me off is "we believe that looking for full time work should be a full time job in itself. Hence we expect you to spend at least 35 hours per week looking for work, unfortunately we don't have ways to make sure you are meeting this requirement."
Then a little while later in the same meeting she said that they've really tightened the rules. Apparently the new rules are working so well that at least 5 out of 6 people claiming Job Seekers Allowance are being sanctioned within the first month.
In fact my brother got sanctioned because they moved one of his meetings to a different day. He attended on the new day and was immediately sanctioned for failing to attend the cancelled appointment. When he tried to dispute the decision they banned him from signing on for 3 years and had security escort him out.
I'm also sure that losing your JSA also means you lose your entitlement to free prescription medications from your doctor.
I would have thought all these undergraduates and graduates would have came up with some ideas and tried to start their own companies up... thats what im planning/ working on.
Interesting. Then again, we've got plenty of jobs here but lack adequately qualified personal.
[QUOTE=cdlink14;44342741]This pisses me off. I've been stuck on jobseekers for 4 years now. I've done countless courses and only just finished a 2 year work programme and they put me into a meeting to learn about how the system has changed since I started the work programme. The first thing the woman said that pissed me off is "we believe that looking for full time work should be a full time job in itself. Hence we expect you to spend at least 35 hours per week looking for work, unfortunately we don't have ways to make sure you are meeting this requirement."
Then a little while later in the same meeting she said that they've really tightened the rules. Apparently the new rules are working so well that at least 5 out of 6 people claiming Job Seekers Allowance are being sanctioned within the first month.
In fact my brother got sanctioned because they moved one of his meetings to a different day. He attended on the new day and was immediately sanctioned for failing to attend the cancelled appointment. When he tried to dispute the decision they banned him from signing on for 3 years and had security escort him out.
I'm also sure that losing your JSA also means you lose your entitlement to free prescription medications from your doctor.[/QUOTE]
The Job Centre are literal slave drivers who don't hesitate to take away people's money for no apparent reason, they also refuse to admit any mistake on their part. It's a disgusting way to run things, god knows how they're allowed to get away with it.
[QUOTE=cdlink14;44342741] "we believe that looking for full time work should be a full time job in itself. Hence we expect you to spend at least 35 hours per week looking for work, unfortunately we don't have ways to make sure you are meeting this requirement.".[/QUOTE]
Part of me would be tempted to say "if looking for work should be a full time job, why is the pay not equal to a fulltime job." But of course you'd get sanctioned somehow for mouthing off and not being a sheep, even if they have to make shit up.
[QUOTE=nuttyboffin;44342991]I would have thought all these undergraduates and graduates would have came up with some ideas and tried to start their own companies up... thats what im planning/ working on.[/QUOTE]
Easier said than done.
[QUOTE=cdlink14;44342741]This pisses me off. I've been stuck on jobseekers for 4 years now. I've done countless courses and only just finished a 2 year work programme and they put me into a meeting to learn about how the system has changed since I started the work programme. The first thing the woman said that pissed me off is "we believe that looking for full time work should be a full time job in itself. Hence we expect you to spend at least 35 hours per week looking for work, unfortunately we don't have ways to make sure you are meeting this requirement."
Then a little while later in the same meeting she said that they've really tightened the rules. Apparently the new rules are working so well that at least 5 out of 6 people claiming Job Seekers Allowance are being sanctioned within the first month.
In fact my brother got sanctioned because they moved one of his meetings to a different day. He attended on the new day and was immediately sanctioned for failing to attend the cancelled appointment. When he tried to dispute the decision they banned him from signing on for 3 years and had security escort him out.
I'm also sure that losing your JSA also means you lose your entitlement to free prescription medications from your doctor.[/QUOTE]
Meanwhile there are a load of people who spend their benefits sitting in their local pub all day with absolutely no inclination to finding work yet still receive housing benefits, JSA, disability etc
I'm currently doing a two-week course via the JSA. Its pretty good.
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;44343205]The Job Centre are literal slave drivers who don't hesitate to take away people's money for no apparent reason, they also refuse to admit any mistake on their part. It's a disgusting way to run things, god knows how they're allowed to get away with it.[/QUOTE]
I got sanctioned for two weeks for not wearing a suit to a interview.
[QUOTE=Matriax;44342564]Do it - the Reserve is catastrophically undermanned at the moment. I am amazed that there aren't queues outside the recruiting offices.
Then again, you'll have to deal with Capita, so good luck on that front.[/QUOTE]
Capita had my hanging for about 2 months when I tried.
Ended up signing for another year at college because I couldn't bear standing at the dole.
[QUOTE=Vasili;44343495]I'm currently doing a two-week course via the JSA. Its pretty good.
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
I got sanctioned for two weeks for not wearing a suit to a interview.[/QUOTE]
Tell me about it, I have an advisor meeting tomorrow and one of my goals I have to complete before meeting her is "to have an interview suit" I've mentioned to the job centre that I need one, and they refuse to give me one unless I get an interview.
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