Russia, China proclaim unity before new Chinese leaders visit - Polidicks

[QUOTE]MOSCOW: Russia and China said on Friday they saw eye-to-eye on all the world's problems including the Syria conflict, as the Chinese foreign minister was in Moscow to prepare a visit by new leader Xi Jinping later this year. Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi confirmed after talks with his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov that Communist Party chief and president-in-waiting Xi would visit Russia after he is confirmed as head of state in March to succeed Hu Jintao. Yang did not directly confirm Chinese reports that Russia would be Xi's first foreign destination after taking the office of president at a session of the National People's Congress (NPC) next month, in what would be a hugely significant step. But he made clear that Xi would be attending the BRICS summit of the world's top five developing economies in Durban from March 26-27 alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin. Russia and China have stood shoulder-to-shoulder throughout the two-year conflict in Syria, with Beijing joining its fellow permanent UN Security Council member Moscow in vetoing resolutions that would have introduced sanctions against Bashar al-Assad's regime. "Russia and China have united positions, and promote these united positions in negotiations, on the situation in the Middle East and North Africa, including the Syrian crisis, Afghanistan, the Iranian nuclear programme and other crises," Lavrov said at a news conference alongside Yang. "On all these cases, we and our Chinese friends are led by one and the same principle -- the necessity to observe international law, respect UN procedures and not allow interference from outside in domestic conflicts and all the more the use of force," added Lavrov.[/QUOTE] [url]http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/16213407/russia-china-proclaim-unity-before-xi-visit/[/url]

It begins

New world order

Eurasia is forming.

China will grow larger.

the motherland will rise again.

This is kind of cool, considering no less than 40 years ago they were about ready to literally wipe each other off the face of the planet.

This is good. There needs to be people around who won't take shit from the US/NATO, and are big enough to enforce it. Of course they have their own problems, though.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;39682973]This is good. There needs to be people around who won't take shit from the US/NATO, and are big enough to enforce it. Of course they have their own problems, though.[/QUOTE] Cold war v2 let's kick this shit off

Considering the recent constricting of various rights in russia, and china's massive censorship and oppression of their people, while taking no care of the fact that there cities are filled with smog and the water is undrinkable, this alliance (which they have had for quite a while, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation"]btw[/URL].) is a bit worrying, because it means they will strive to differ from more, er, first world countries? I don't know how to put it. But relatively speaking, NATO has better civil and political rights than china and russia do. [editline]22nd February 2013[/editline] I do kindof agree with their point in non-interventionism though, but on an international scale china and russia cooperating on foreign affairs is bigger than some smaller countries domestic conflict.

[QUOTE=lifehole;39686517]Considering the recent constricting of various rights in russia, and china's massive censorship and oppression of their people, while taking no care of the fact that there cities are filled with smog and the water is undrinkable, this alliance (which they have had for quite a while, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation"]btw[/URL].) is a bit worrying, because it means they will strive to differ from more, er, first world countries? I don't know how to put it. But relatively speaking, NATO has better civil and political rights than china and russia do. [editline]22nd February 2013[/editline] I do kindof agree with their point in non-interventionism though, but on an international scale china and russia cooperating on foreign affairs is bigger than some smaller countries domestic conflict.[/QUOTE] i think one of the things ignored is that nato countries enjoy these civil and political rights at the expense of the rights of asian, latin american, arabian, and african political and civil rights. the chinese aren't trying to distance themselves from us, they want to profit off us more. their direction as far as repression goes serves their goals and interests, as well as our goals and interests. the world is a bit more complex than china/russia allying and teaming against nato. global economies are interconnected and while there are many differences regarding foreign policy, the end goal remains similar for everyone.

[QUOTE=VOSK;39677577]Eurasia is forming.[/QUOTE] Just East-Asia and Oceania left.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39686675]i think one of the things ignored is that nato countries enjoy these civil and political rights at the expense of the rights of asian, latin american, arabian, and african political and civil rights.[/QUOTE] That isn't true of all Asian countries certainly, more specifically those that are more NATO-friendly than PRC/Russia-friendly, like South Korea, Japan, or Taiwan. I would say that subsequent instability or lack of other peoples' rights is an indirect result more than anything, although certain Western nations are responsible for this in some capacity.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39686675]i think one of the things ignored is that nato countries enjoy these civil and political rights at the expense of the rights of asian, latin american, arabian, and african political and civil rights. the chinese aren't trying to distance themselves from us, they want to profit off us more. their direction as far as repression goes serves their goals and interests, as well as our goals and interests. the world is a bit more complex than china/russia allying and teaming against nato. global economies are interconnected and while there are many differences regarding foreign policy, the end goal remains similar for everyone.[/QUOTE] They want to profit off us more, but how? We profit off of them, they profit off of us. (just to clarify I live in the US.) I mean, do you really think China wants to better the prosperity of it's people as an end goal? I think their actions speak against that. Russia is a different story, but I hear there is a lot of corruption in the political system there, but I don't have enough info to judge. But honestly, I think it's partly the fact that we exploit third world countries/mass producing factory countries for resources, and another part the fact that they let us, and their economy and political system has so far not changed in the face of oppression and poverty.