An electrifying world record - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Andrej Pečjak decided to challenge the conventional wisdom about electric cars by setting a world record – and he did it by relying on homegrown technology. Since his he was a young man, Pečjak has been fascinated with an outdoors. A committed rock and ice climber, he developed a passion for the natural world that made him a committed environmentalist. He also had a knack for state-of-the-art technology, and he decided to combine his twin passions in the environmentally friendly field of electric vehicles. Pečjak's arrival to Dubrovnik made history books – no one had ever driven an electric car that far in ordinary traffic without recharging.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.rtvslo.si/news-in-english/an-electrifying-world-record/373398[/url]

726 kilometers on 10 euros worth of power... Where do I sign up?! :rollout:

Take notes Musk.

Bad article. This guy had the world record up until a couple of weeks ago, when it was beaten by Bjørn Nyland driving a Model S P85D 72[i]8.7[/i] kilometres on a single charge. Although, they don't state how much power he actually used, so he may still hold the record counting least power consumption (based on the average of 0.208 euros per kWh, the Model S used about 16 euros).

[QUOTE=ultradude25;48638535]Bad article. This guy had the world record up until a couple of weeks ago, when it was beaten by Bjørn Nyland driving a Model S P85D 72[i]8.7[/i] kilometres on a single charge. Although, they don't state how much power he actually used, so he may still hold the record counting least power consumption (based on the average of 0.208 euros per kWh, the Model S used about 16 euros).[/QUOTE] This is the kind of dickwaving contest we need.

Here's more info: [url]http://eauto.si/en/events/700km-without-charging/[/url] [url]http://eauto.si/en/metron7-2/[/url] Here's Andrej Pečjak's record: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOAnBSckHU&feature=youtu.be[/media] Here's Bjørn Nyland's record: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5W4LJ5zL9g[/media] You should note the lack of air conditioning and the slow speed of the Tesla video. Not sure if the other guy had air conditioning but I'm going to guess no. [editline]8th September 2015[/editline] Also, the Metron 7 was doing "50 to 70kph, up to 100kph" Which is 30~43mph, up to 60mph. Electric car world records are nice tech demos, but they're not really examples of daily driving by any means. You can squeeze more distance out of them by shutting off non-essential things (like climate control) and making the car lighter. We won't be able to do 700km on a charge and drive highway/higher speeds for a few years still.

I've been thinking of having a go at the distance record myself considering there was some low hanging fruit that I could edge out Bjørn with. Is there any reason that these records are usually set at locations close to sea level? I could understand why a lot of tests on ICE cars are done at sea level for the thicker air, but I don't see why that'd be a factor in an electric car.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;48638425]Take notes Musk.[/QUOTE] To be fair, the Tesla Model S P85D (which Bjørn broke the record with) weighs ~390kg more than this guys car. (He didn't give a specific weight, just said it weighs "less than 1800kg")

[QUOTE=Supacasey;48638597]I've been thinking of having a go at the distance record myself considering there was some low hanging fruit that I could edge out Bjørn with. Is there any reason that these records are usually set at locations close to sea level? I could understand why a lot of tests on ICE cars are done at sea level for the thicker air, but I don't see why that'd be a factor in an electric car.[/QUOTE] Well I guess low laid locations also tend to be flat, which you gonna want regardless of the car (I know Tesla can recuperate, but it's still with not 100% efficiency). Rearward wind could help wonders as well and again, that's something you can predict better in low laid areas. [editline]8th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=OvB;48638605]To be fair, the Tesla Model S P85D (which Bjørn broke the record with) weighs ~390kg more than this guys car. (He didn't give a specific weight, just said it weighs "less than 1800kg")[/QUOTE] Doubt his car has near as expensive materials, though, when it comes to quality of the motors and so their efficiency, friction on the bearings, all that. It also got worse aerodynamics for sure, Tesla is streamlined as hell. More important question is how much of his car is taken up by stacks of batteries.

[QUOTE=OvB;48638554]Here's more info: [url]http://eauto.si/en/events/700km-without-charging/[/url] [url]http://eauto.si/en/metron7-2/[/url] Here's Andrej Pečjak's record: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOAnBSckHU&feature=youtu.be[/media] Here's Bjørn Nyland's record: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5W4LJ5zL9g[/media] You should note the lack of air conditioning and the slow speed of the Tesla video. Not sure if the other guy had air conditioning but I'm going to guess no. [editline]8th September 2015[/editline] Also, the Metron 7 was doing "50 to 70kph, up to 100kph" Which is 30~43mph, up to 60mph. Electric car world records are nice tech demos, but they're not really examples of daily driving by any means. You can squeeze more distance out of them by shutting off non-essential things (like climate control) and making the car lighter. We won't be able to do 700km on a charge and drive highway/higher speeds for a few years still.[/QUOTE] Yeah that article is a lot better. Andrej drove faster, and also up elevated terrain so I'd say their record, even though it is a bit shorter, is more impressive. That being said, a full-sized luxury sedan isn't quite in the same category as that small car.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48638613]Doubt his car has near as expensive materials, though, when it comes to quality of the motors and so their efficiency, friction on the bearings, all that. It also got worse aerodynamics for sure, Tesla is streamlined as hell. More important question is how much of his car is taken up by stacks of batteries.[/QUOTE] Metron 7: [quote]One important part are batteries: 96 lithium polymer chobalt based cells stored in special light boxes under the car weighting almost 500 kg including boxes and connections. Alltogether we have 86 kWh stored in main battery and 10 kWh in auxilliary battery. This one is not always installed, but was installed for the record drive.[/quote] Tesla 85 kWh pack: [quote]The 85 kWh battery pack weighs 1,200 lb (540 kg)[65] and contains 7,104 lithium-ion battery cells in 16 modules[66] wired in series (14 in the flat section and two stacked on the front).[67] Each module contains six groups[68] of 74 cells[69] wired in parallel; the six groups are then wired in series within the module.[/quote] (Tesla offers a 90 kWh pack, which is presumably more heavy) Tesla battery weighs a bit more, and has less kwh. Sounds like the batteries are entirely different constructions, given the Tesla has 7000 laptop cells and his car only has 96. And you're probably right in saying the Model S is a lot more expensive. Interesting to see all the different ways you can put together and electric car.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48638613]Well I guess low laid locations also tend to be flat, which you gonna want regardless of the car (I know Tesla can recuperate, but it's still with not 100% efficiency). Rearward wind could help wonders as well and again, that's something you can predict better in low laid areas. [/QUOTE] Wouldn't a gradual decrease in elevation (ie a big ass hill) be ideal? Take the I-90 that runs across South Dakota, for example. Largely straight and has a net elevation decrease of 2000ft. Wouldn't that be perfect?

Damn, this guy just came out of the radar with this car and the isolated manufactures for it. And no govt. subsidies to boot, I sense a great level of competition for electric cars soon.

[QUOTE=Supacasey;48638660]Wouldn't a gradual decrease in elevation (ie a big ass hill) be ideal? Take the I-90 that runs across South Dakota, for example. Largely straight and has a net elevation decrease of 2000ft. Wouldn't that be perfect?[/QUOTE] Would make sense, but I think it would feel like cheating in an electric car since you could just ride the regen brakes all the way down and lose very little power.

[QUOTE=OvB;48638666]Would make sense, but I think it would feel like cheating in an electric car since you could just ride the regen brakes all the way down and lose very little power.[/QUOTE] The record holders before Bjorn set the record in Florida with downhill sections as well, I don't recall anyone crying foul.

Regardless, I think you should go for it! More attempts never hurt and if you think you got something that can give you an edge over Bjørn Nyland then you should absolutely go for it. I'm sure you're aware of Bjørn's fame in the Tesla community. If you can beat him you'd be instantly recognized by Tesla fans. [url]https://twitter.com/BjornNyland[/url] The dude is like an unofficial/official Tesla spokesman. You should race him for pinks on his Founders Series Model X.

[QUOTE=Supacasey;48638680]The record holders before Bjorn set the record in Florida with downhill sections as well, I don't recall anyone crying foul.[/QUOTE] Why would any record allow for elevation changes? A real test would be going around an oval track or something very controlled. If you want to beat this "record" you could just start in the Colorado rockies and start driving down. I am sure most of the way you could just coast with no power usage.

[QUOTE=OvB;48638714]Regardless, I think you should go for it! More attempts never hurt and if you think you got something that can give you an edge over Bjørn Nyland then you should absolutely go for it. I'm sure you're aware of Bjørn's fame in the Tesla community. If you can beat him you'd be instantly recognized by Tesla fans. [url]https://twitter.com/BjornNyland[/url] The dude is like an unofficial/official Tesla spokesman. You should race him for pinks on his Founders Series Model X.[/QUOTE] Yup yup, I know of Bjorn. Amazing that he'll be receiving a free Model X, and Tesla added another incentive: whoever has the most overall will receive a free upgrade to a fully loaded P90D, which I'm sure he'll get as well. I'm going to start making videos in an attempt to get 10 referrals myself. I know I'm too late for a free Model X, but I'd still buy the discounted founders series. I've already made one about using the battery swap (though I have yet to upload it) and recently I drag raced my 85D 28 times in a row and recorded all of it. I got some pretty good performance data from that excursion, and set a 0-60 personal best: 3.75 seconds. [editline]8th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Cmx;48638738]Why would any record allow for elevation changes? A real test would be going around an oval track or something very controlled. If you want to beat this "record" you could just start in the Colorado rockies and start driving down. I am sure most of the way you could just coast with no power usage.[/QUOTE] These aren't technically official records, they're more like friendly competitions, otherwise you'd be right.

[QUOTE=Supacasey;48638874]Yup yup, I know of Bjorn. Amazing that he'll be receiving a free Model X, and Tesla added another incentive: whoever has the most overall will receive a free upgrade to a fully loaded P90D, which I'm sure he'll get as well. I'm going to start making videos in an attempt to get 10 referrals myself. I know I'm too late for a free Model X, but I'd still buy the discounted founders series. I've already made one about using the battery swap (though I have yet to upload it) and recently I drag raced my 85D 28 times in a row and recorded all of it. I got some pretty good performance data from that excursion, and set a 0-60 personal best: 3.75 seconds. [editline]8th September 2015[/editline] These aren't technically official records, they're more like friendly competitions, otherwise you'd be right.[/QUOTE] Sounds interesting, would love to be able to follow your progress.

The more competition the better, I want to afford an electric car one day.

[QUOTE=Tinter;48645248]Sounds interesting, would love to be able to follow your progress.[/QUOTE] Narrowing down the routes right now, I think I'll take a crack at it this weekend, maybe live-stream the attempt.

[QUOTE=Supacasey;48650641]Narrowing down the routes right now, I think I'll take a crack at it this weekend, maybe live-stream the attempt.[/QUOTE] You should make a thread about it.