Iran prepares bill to bar foreign warships from Persian Gulf

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TEHRAN — Iran’s parliament said Wednesday that it was preparing a bill that would prohibit all foreign warships from entering the Persian Gulf unless they received permission from the Iranian navy.
The bill, disclosed by the semiofficial Fars News Agency, surfaced a day after Iran’s armed forces commander [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/iran-in-new-provocation-threatens-us-ships/2012/01/03/gIQAzEiGZP_story.html"]warned a U.S. nuclear-powered aircraft carrier[/URL] not to return to the gulf, remarks that rattled commodities markets and helped drive up oil prices.

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Iran tests two long-range missiles on the last day of its naval exercises. The country is threatening to shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which would cut off a large percentage of the world's oil supply. (Jan. 3)

The proposed legislation suggested that at least some Iranian officials are serious about trying to stop the U.S. Navy from entering the oil-rich gulf waters. Iranian analysts said that the bill probably would not have been introduced if it were not supported by higher authorities.
“If the military vessels and warships of any country want to pass via the Strait of Hormuz without coordination and permission of Iran’s navy forces, they should be stopped by the Iranian armed forces,” Fars quoted lawmaker Nader Qazipour as saying in explaining the bill. He noted that Iran regards the strait as part of its territorial waters and said the bill would be presented to leaders in parliament next week.
Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi restated Iran’s position that “transnational forces” have no place in the region. Vahidi also said that Iran is willing to organize joint military drills with neighboring countries, Fars reported Wednesday.
The news agency, which has ties to Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard Corps, asserted that the carrier [URL="http://navysite.de/cvn/cvn74.html"]USS John C. Stennis[/URL], which steamed out of the Persian Gulf last week, had escaped while being “chased by Iranian warships.”
The United States has dismissed as overblown rhetoric Iran’s threats to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz, the narrow entrance to the Persian Gulf, in retaliation for Western sanctions over the country’s uranium-enrichment program.
Iran’s increasingly bellicose tone has coincided with a currency crisis [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-prepares-bill-to-bar-foreign-warships-from-persian-gulf/2012/01/04/gIQAhlWYaP_story.html?tid=pm_pop"][/URL]that has forced the government to intervene to prop up the ailing rial. Helping to drive the rial to record lows was U.S. legislation signed Saturday by President Obama that includes a provision for[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/irans-rial-slides-under-latest-us-sanctions/2012/01/02/gIQAHX8MWP_story.html"]unilateral sanctions against the Central Bank of Iran[/URL].
Iran responded by injecting an additional $200 million into the country’s currency markets Wednesday, Fars reported. Although the rial’s rate appeared to stabilize, people involved in trading dollars said they were hanging on to their foreign currency for now.
Many Iranians were trying to buy dollars anyway, but sellers were hard to find.
“Nobody is selling their dollars,” said one exchange office representative who did not want to be identified. “The current rate is artificial.”
The crisis spurred rumors that the job of the governor of the Central Bank of Iran, Mahmoud Bahmani, was in jeopardy. According to Fars, he has asked for more authority to clamp down on “speculation” against the rial.

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[Roof]

I feel odd reading all these militaristic posts coming all of a sudden from every country this week.

[ewitwins]

Odd? I feel unnerved!

[Contag]

Guess I'm going to be filling the car with LPG rather than petrol/gasoline for a next few weeks

[Humor]

[img]http://looklex.com/e.o/atlas/ill-maps/persian_gulf.gif[/img]

Any country would be unhappy if foreign aggressors were that close to their territory, as well.

... just saying

[Nigademus]

[quote]The news agency, which has ties to Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard Corps, asserted that the carrier USS John C. Stennis, which steamed out of the Persian Gulf last week, had escaped while being “chased by Iranian warships.”[/quote]
:v:

This kind of threat seems like it's going to be taken as a challenge.

[dickpickle]

We [I]NEED[/I] to [B]BOMB IRAN[/B] as soon as possible!

[Erector Beast]

Iran probably shouldn't [I]try[/I] to give the U.S. a reason to stick its dick in their country

They saw what happened when Iraq threatened the world's oil in Kuwait, right?

[ewitwins]

[QUOTE=DanTehMan;34073634][img]http://looklex.com/e.o/atlas/ill-maps/persian_gulf.gif[/img]

Any country would be unhappy if foreign aggressors were that close to their territory, as well.

... just saying[/QUOTE]

International water=/=Iranian Territory

[Contag]

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34073699]International water=/=Iranian Territory[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about, you dolt?

[quote]To traverse the Strait, [B]ships pass through the territorial waters of Iran and Oman[/B] under the transit passage provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.[/quote]

[Aman VII]

Fuck I don't want a war but I want the Iranian government to all die.

A 1970s Iran would be pretty bro

[Contag]

You can criticize the fact that Iran is now doing it because the US is a bit overstretched at the moment, and needs to cut back

[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Aman VII;34073727]Fuck I don't want a war but I want the Iranian government to all die.

A 1970s Iran would be pretty bro[/QUOTE]

as long as you didn't piss off the Shah and get tortured by the secret police
An alternative reality Iranian Revolution in which the socialists won would be pretty 'bro'

[dickpickle]

[QUOTE=Aman VII;34073727]Fuck I don't want a war but I want the Iranian government to all die.

A 1970s Iran would be pretty bro[/QUOTE]
You support the Shah?

[Sickle]

[QUOTE=Aman VII;34073727]Fuck I don't want a war but I want the Iranian government to all die.

A 1970s Iran would be pretty bro[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, oh wow.

[Starpluck]

[QUOTE=Aman VII;34073727]Fuck I don't want a war but I want the Iranian government to all die.

A 1970s Iran would be pretty bro[/QUOTE]

The only fucking difference between that and now is instead of hating the West, they were a puppet to the West. I find it disappointing you chose that over [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat"]pre-1953 Iran[/URL]. You disgust me.

[Sumap]

[QUOTE=Aman VII;34073727]Fuck I don't want a war but I want the Iranian government to all die.

[B]A 1970s Iran would be pretty bro[/B][/QUOTE]
Oh god, my sides.

Better get busy getting rid of any leader the people want and voted for, and install a dictator that constantly sucks the west's naughty bits, at the expense of the Irani people.

[Clementine]

[QUOTE=Starpluck;34073832]The only fucking difference between that and now is instead of hating the West, they were a puppet to the West. I find it disappointing you chose that over [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat"]pre-1953 Iran[/URL]. You disgust me.[/QUOTE]

Calm down you drama queen, he likely is uneducated on the matter and didn't truly understand what he was saying.

[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

Unless he did know what he was saying then oh my

[Sickle]

[QUOTE=Clementine;34073869]Calm down you drama queen, he likely is uneducated on the matter and didn't truly understand what he was saying.

[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

Unless he did know what he was saying then oh my[/QUOTE]

If he knows enough to reference '1970' then of course he knows.

[Clementine]

[QUOTE=Sickle;34073882]If he knows enough to reference '1970' then of course he knows.[/QUOTE]

Depends really, maybe his teacher said something like "1970 iran was better than now!" and he's running with it without truly knowing anything

unfortunately, you may be right

[Sumap]

[QUOTE=Sickle;34073882]If he knows enough to reference '1970' then of course he knows.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like he knows that US-Iran relations were magicaly all lovey-dovey suddenly, but knows nothing of what was going on at the time. That or he doesn't care for the Irani, wich is even worse

[QUOTE=Starpluck;34073832]The only fucking difference between that and now is instead of hating the West, they were a puppet to the West. I find it disappointing you chose that over [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat"]pre-1953 Iran[/URL]. You disgust me.[/QUOTE]

And so continues the tradition of me and/or Starpluck bringing this stuff up in most Iran related threads.

[EmperorScorpious]

[QUOTE=dickpickle;34073690]We [I]NEED[/I] to [B]BOMB IRAN[/B] as soon as possible![/QUOTE]

What if we drop a single grenade into the most distant part of their deserts.

We've bombed Iran, now all the warhawks can go home.

[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Sumap;34073850]Oh god, my sides.

Better get busy getting rid of any leader the people want and voted for, and install a dictator that constantly sucks the west's naughty bits, at the expense of the Irani people.[/QUOTE]

I've only ever heard people from Iran be called Persian before, not Irani. And since "Iran" means "Land of the Aryans", if anything I'd call them Aryans if not Persian.

[Sickle]

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34073977]What if we drop a single grenade into the most distant part of their deserts.

We've bombed Iran, now all the warhawks can go home.

[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

I've only ever heard people from Iran be called Persian before, not Irani. And since "Iran" means "Land of the Aryans", if anything I'd call them Aryans if not Persian.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's Iranian if you're born there, Persian if you're descended from them.

I prefer calling myself Aryan, it sounds better

Also; where'd you learn this stuff? I'd only expect a Persian to know.

Everyone is like, 'lol aryan is hitler'.

[Sumap]

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34073977]
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

I've only ever heard people from Iran be called Persian before, not Irani. And since "Iran" means "Land of the Aryans", if anything I'd call them Aryans if not Persian.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Irani may refer to the following:
Anything related to Iran
*People of Iran
*People of Iranian ancestry[/quote]
:eng101:

[Sickle]

[QUOTE=Sumap;34074086]:eng101:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]i·ra·ni·an/iˈrānēən/
Adjective:
Of or relating to Iran or its people.
Noun:
A native or national of Iran, or a person of Iranian descent.
More info »Dictionary.com - Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]per·sian/ˈpərZHən/
Noun:
A native or national of ancient or modern Persia (or Iran), or a person of Persian descent.
Adjective:
Of or relating to ancient Persia or modern Iran or its people or language.[/QUOTE]

Basically all the same definition.

[karbine]

good luck iran

[Raidyr]

[QUOTE=Contag;34073726]What are you talking about, you dolt?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Territorial waters

Out to 12 nautical miles from the baseline, the coastal state is free to set laws, regulate use, and use any resource. [B]Vessels were given the right of innocent passage through any territorial waters, with strategic straits allowing the passage of military craft as transit passage, in that naval vessels are allowed to maintain postures that would be illegal in territorial waters.[/B] "Innocent passage" is defined by the convention as passing through waters in an expeditious and continuous manner, which is not "prejudicial to the peace, good order or the security" of the coastal state. Fishing, polluting, weapons practice, and spying are not "innocent", and submarines and other underwater vehicles are required to navigate on the surface and to show their flag. [B]Nations can also temporarily suspend innocent passage in specific areas of their territorial seas, if doing so is essential for the protection of its security.[/B][/QUOTE]

So US ships are allowed within 12 miles of the coast, but at any time Iran is allowed to shut down the strait temporarily.

[Contag]

And only US ships that are not "prejudicial to the peace, good order or the security" of the coastal state, which Iran could plausibly say was every oil tanker of a state friendly to the Americans

[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Sickle;34074067]Yeah, it's Iranian if you're born there, Persian if you're descended from them.

I prefer calling myself Aryan, it sounds better

Also; where'd you learn this stuff? I'd only expect a Persian to know.

Everyone is like, 'lol aryan is hitler'.[/QUOTE]

Everyone I've met at university knows that Aryan means people from the Persia region of the world?
though most people use indo-iranian instead

good job shitty german historians

[Raidyr]

It also states "expeditious and continous manner" so American ships shouldn't be loitering in the Strait which sounds like whats happening.

Is anyone else getting some major Gulf of Tonkin feelings here?

[Funky Mummy]

[QUOTE=Starpluck;34073832]The only fucking difference between that and now is instead of hating the West, they were a puppet to the West. I find it disappointing you chose that over [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat"]pre-1953 Iran[/URL]. You disgust me.[/QUOTE]

I remember seeing a movie from the 50's on an Iranian TV station a while ago. The first few minutes that I was watching, I thought it was filmed in America. The scene was from a cabaret where a lightly dressed woman was singing and dancing. The crowd consisted of men wearing suits and fedoras.
It was totally different, I couldn't believe it myself.