Abortion is there to avoid the not-yer-born child a shitty, terrible life, simple as that, abortion is in most case avoided unless the parent's situation is not ideal in any ways to allow a good life, so instead of a shitty, terrible life, she doesn't give at all, which is probably for the best.
That's pretty much all there is to it.
There's rules about when you can abort and when you can't. Early on, the baby can't really be called "alive", so while you're "denying" it a life, it never really lived.
If it hates the disease then it can kill itself Thats all there is to it.
[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32454959]If it hates the disease then it can kill itself Thats all there is to it.[/QUOTE]
What?
Just because someone accidently gets pregnant, doesn't mean they HAVE to give birth. It's all based on choice, someone can choose to have 10 babies or not have any at all.
What gives you the right to tell someone who is capable of creating their own life to not have a choice.
[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32447423]I personally am anti abortion because the mother is infringing on the babys right to life. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]
What about rape?
What if it is a disease that can be cured or you can live a normal life with?
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[QUOTE=clanratc;32455028]What about rape?[/QUOTE]
Rape is very wrong. You don't have sex to feel good. Sex is very sincere form of affection.
Abortion isn't black and white, obviously there are some cases i.e rape or complications where abortion should be allowed, whereas unwanted children aren't proper grounds for it.
[QUOTE=Spycrabz;32455040]Abortion isn't black and white, obviously there are some cases i.e rape or complications where abortion should be allowed, whereas unwanted children aren't proper grounds for it.[/QUOTE] No, the baby has a right to life, as does everyone else. You can choose to kill yourself.
[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32455033]
Rape is very wrong. You don't have sex to feel good. Sex is very sincere form of affection.[/QUOTE]
Let me rephrase. If a woman gets pregnant from getting raped, should she be forced to give birth to said child and put it up for abortion? Or should she be allowed to have an abortion to avoid going through an unwanted pregnancy?
[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32455047]No, the baby has a right to life, as does everyone else. You can choose to kill yourself.[/QUOTE]
What if the mother [I]and[/I] baby will die in childbirth due to complications, would you rather have one dead human or two?
Good stuff.
No need to squeeze all the babies out.
Also although off-topic, adoption. Good stuff too.
[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32455033]What if it is a disease that can be cured or you can live a normal life with?
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Rape is very wrong. [b]You don't have sex to feel good.[/b] Sex is very sincere form of affection.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure most people do.
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[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32455047]No, the baby has a right to life, as does everyone else. You can choose to kill yourself.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but it can be discussed when it can really be called a baby. If you think in that line, you could argue that sperm is babies.
Abortion is good in situations. Say those 16 year olds that get pregnant, and can't take care of the child; if they can't get an abortion, the child will grow up with a horrible life. Their parents can't support them. The parents are then burdened by this, and can't grow up to be successful themselves.
On the other hand, if you can support the child, then there is no reason to get an abortion.
[QUOTE=tyler3497;32462548]Abortion is good in situations. Say those 16 year olds that get pregnant, and can't take care of the child; if they can't get an abortion, the child will grow up with a horrible life. Their parents can't support them. The parents are then burdened by this, and can't grow up to be successful themselves.
On the other hand, if you can support the child, then there is no reason to get an abortion.[/QUOTE]
No reason? What if the mother doesn't want a child? That seems like a pretty solid reason to me.
[QUOTE=The Jman Wik;32462627]No reason? What if the mother doesn't want a child? That seems like a pretty solid reason to me.[/QUOTE]
If she didn't want a child she could have thought ahead and not have sex when she's fertile.
At the end of the day, the mother can throw herself down a flight of stairs and abort the baby herself, it's better to legally allow it for her sake.
[QUOTE=Jookia;32462716]At the end of the day, the mother can throw herself down a flight of stairs and abort the baby herself, it's better to legally allow it for her sake.[/QUOTE]
This logic can be applied to just about anything.
[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32462684]If she didn't want a child she could have thought ahead and not have sex when she's fertile.[/QUOTE]
It comes down to choice. Why is there an arbitrarily defined point at which a woman can no longer choose what she does with her own body?
[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32462684]If she didn't want a child she could have thought ahead and not have sex when she's fertile.[/QUOTE]really?
that kinda mindset sounds like the whole "women deserve to get raped if they wear "slutty" clothes" thought
btw a female is fertile the majority of their lives and no contraception is 100% effective
[QUOTE=Teh_Ostrich;32447423]I personally am anti abortion because the mother is infringing on the babys right to life. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]
actually by being anti abortion you're anti women's rights.
nice job!
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[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32462684]If she didn't want a child she could have thought ahead and not have sex when she's fertile.[/QUOTE]
that's stupid
[QUOTE=The Jman Wik;32463159]It comes down to choice. Why is there an arbitrarily defined point at which a woman can no longer choose what she does with her own body?[/QUOTE]
She's dealing with the child's body as well.
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