this is something i'd call old gold
while i cant attest for the overall quality of each of his films, the directing is always top notch in kubrick films
this is clearly just a case of someone being told to slap fake doors on every hallway.
I haven't seen The Shining, but I know Kubrick was almost OCD about making every scene perfect, and almost everything in each scene was deliberate. The attention to detail that Kubrick put into Full Metal Jacket and Dr. Strangelove was ridiculous, and I'm sure it's the same in The Shining.
im pretty sure this was all done just to fuck with people and make it seem "off"
Anyone interested in this sort of thing should watch the film Room 237.
To me the whole "no rooms could be in the hallway" deal looks like they were just trying to give it a feel of being this huge lodge with lots of rooms. It would be kinda dumb if they didn't have the doors and just made they hallways with very few rooms.
"It couldn't have been a mistake because Kubrick is a genius"
People think this, it's a movie, he just wanted to make it look like the hotel had a lot of rooms.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44770092]"It couldn't have been a mistake because Kubrick is a genius"
People think this, it's a movie, he just wanted to make it look like the hotel had a lot of rooms.[/QUOTE]
Kubrick was meticulous in his details. Everything had to be perfect. It seems weird that he would have these impossible layouts simply because he wanted to make the place seems bigger than it was. In fact, the scene with the freezer where they come out the wrong exit is a good example of it not being just a case of trying to make the place look bigger.
If you ask me it's done deliberately in order to make the viewer feel the place is disturbing. The impossible hallways, doors and windows make your brain subconsciously protest, telling you the place is wrong. Kind of like watching a subtle version of an M.C. Escher painting.
[QUOTE=V12US;44771574]Kubrick was meticulous in his details. Everything had to be perfect. It seems weird that he would have these impossible layouts simply because he wanted to make the place seems bigger than it was. In fact, the scene with the freezer where they come out the wrong exit is a good example of it not being just a case of trying to make the place look bigger.
If you ask me it's done deliberately in order to make the viewer feel the place is disturbing. The impossible hallways, doors and windows make your brain subconsciously protest, telling you the place is wrong. Kind of like watching a subtle version of an M.C. Escher painting.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he was so OCD in his directing, it just seems unlikely to me that he just "let it slide;" he planned it so that it would have impossible geometry deliberately. It's not likely that he would say "oh well we fucked up the set design, let's just go with it anyway because it's too late to fix."
For a movie about descent into madness, it makes sense for them to want to give the viewer that something isn't right without really putting direct emphasis on what exactly is wrong. Impossible geometry would probably be a great way to give viewers the subconscious "off" feeling that doesn't really become obvious until you closely scrutinize the film.
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[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44770092]"It couldn't have been a mistake because Kubrick is a genius"
People think this, it's a movie, he just wanted to make it look like the hotel had a lot of rooms.[/QUOTE]
Try "It couldn't have been a mistake because these impossible turns and rooms were deliberately placed where they were and they would have corrected the mistakes in pre-production."
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We would be talking legendary amounts of ineptitude for these "mistakes" to have gone unnoticed.
It's funny how designing a duke nukem 3d level to match the the film was "impossible" due to spacial impossibilities, when the duke nukem engine allows non euclidean geometries such as rooms being bigger on the inside and rooms/space intersecting /passing through each other.
[QUOTE=Mattz333;44771737]It's funny how designing a duke nukem 3d level to match the the film was "impossible" due to spacial impossibilities, when the duke nukem engine allows non euclidean geometries such as rooms being bigger on the inside and rooms/space intersecting /passing through each other.[/QUOTE]
There were levels in Duke 3D that were full circles that wrapped around 720 degrees before you wound up back where you started.
What? Is there a video of this? Or an explanation as to how this was done?
[QUOTE=Krinkels;44772147]What? Is there a video of this? Or an explanation as to how this was done?[/QUOTE]
do you mean the duke nukem thing or the movie thing
This is bull shit no one thinks about making their film
[QUOTE=BlackRainbow;44769377]Anyone interested in this sort of thing should watch the film Room 237.[/QUOTE]
Took your advice... there is a guy trying to convince me that the movie was about the holocaust because Jack uses a German typewriter
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;44772464]This is bull shit no one thinks about making their film[/QUOTE]
are you saying nobody thinks about their set design? if nobody was thinking about the set design, they would have left the actual hotel it's filmed in, as is. they wouldn't have added all the extra stuff they did or used all the trick photography they did. they even redid the carpet for the movie. they thought about it. a lot.
it does definitely create a sense of unease. the movie is spooky, yeah, but the hotel always feels really spooky too. i absolutely think all these little impossibilities are responsible for that. your brain noticing things you're not really aware of and it creates a very uneasy atmosphere, it makes the place feel 'wrong'. I attribute this to a lot of the film's vibe, which is nothing short of haunting.
if they had filmed in the hotel as is, it would have lost a lot of it's impact. even just thinking about that film but taking away all the impossibilities, it makes it seem a lot duller.
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you have to remember that it's a real hotel. if they didn't care, they wouldn't have changed it for the movie. they would have adapted the screenplay to fit the existing layout. but there is clearly a lot of purposeful change made to it.
I mean the duke nukem thing.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;44772491]are you saying nobody thinks about their set design? if nobody was thinking about the set design, they would have left the actual hotel it's filmed in, as is. they wouldn't have added all the extra stuff they did or used all the trick photography they did. they even redid the carpet for the movie. they thought about it. a lot.
it does definitely create a sense of unease. the movie is spooky, yeah, but the hotel always feels really spooky too. i absolutely think all these little impossibilities are responsible for that. your brain noticing things you're not really aware of and it creates a very uneasy atmosphere, it makes the place feel 'wrong'. I attribute this to a lot of the film's vibe, which is nothing short of haunting.
if they had filmed in the hotel as is, it would have lost a lot of it's impact. even just thinking about that film but taking away all the impossibilities, it makes it seem a lot duller.
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you have to remember that it's a real hotel. if they didn't care, they wouldn't have changed it for the movie. they would have adapted the screenplay to fit the existing layout. but there is clearly a lot of purposeful change made to it.[/QUOTE]
dude i think he was being sarcastic
[QUOTE=Rusty100;44772491]are you saying nobody thinks about their set design? if nobody was thinking about the set design, they would have left the actual hotel it's filmed in, as is. they wouldn't have added all the extra stuff they did or used all the trick photography they did. they even redid the carpet for the movie. they thought about it. a lot.
it does definitely create a sense of unease. the movie is spooky, yeah, but the hotel always feels really spooky too. i absolutely think all these little impossibilities are responsible for that. your brain noticing things you're not really aware of and it creates a very uneasy atmosphere, it makes the place feel 'wrong'. I attribute this to a lot of the film's vibe, which is nothing short of haunting.
if they had filmed in the hotel as is, it would have lost a lot of it's impact. even just thinking about that film but taking away all the impossibilities, it makes it seem a lot duller.
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you have to remember that it's a real hotel. if they didn't care, they wouldn't have changed it for the movie. they would have adapted the screenplay to fit the existing layout. but there is clearly a lot of purposeful change made to it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks rusty :-)
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44770092]"It couldn't have been a mistake because Kubrick is a genius"
People think this, it's a movie, he just wanted to make it look like the hotel had a lot of rooms.[/QUOTE]
yeah, it's a movie, and Kubrick is one of the most renowned directors.
He isn't renowned for being renowned. He's well known for his incredibly attention to detail.
If you pay attention to the history of the film, it's clear as day that kubrick did this on purpose and even played pranks on people in the maze by changing the maze design without letting anyone know about it.
[QUOTE=V12US;44771574]the scene with the freezer where they come out the wrong exit is a good example of it not being just a case of trying to make the place look bigger.[/QUOTE]
As a person who thinks about filmmaking a lot, he probably just thought them walking out from there looked better.
At least this shit isn't as bad as people thinking Kubrick directed the Apollo 11 Moon Landing because Danny had an Apollo 11 shirt in The Shining.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;44769111]im pretty sure this was all done just to fuck with people and make it seem "off"[/QUOTE]
Exactly. The history of the hotel is disturbing, and the building itself is alive with evil.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44774937]As a person who thinks about filmmaking a lot, he probably just thought them walking out from there looked better.
At least this shit isn't as bad as people thinking Kubrick directed the Apollo 11 Moon Landing because Danny had an Apollo 11 shirt in The Shining.[/QUOTE]
yeah, that's kubrick
a guy who just made random decisions for no reason
it's not like we've documented his form of insanity and obsession with his work.
I wasn't too big on "The Shining". It started off great, but once the horror scenes came, I wasn't really scared or 'weirded-out'. I guess I'm just a bit hard to please in the horror genre, as I've yet to have a movie truly scare me, aside from maybe "The Fourth Kind".
It was still a good movie and all, but it really only served to tell a story to me, which is acceptable considering not all horror films are meant to terrify you, but make you think.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44774987]yeah, that's kubrick
a guy who just made random decisions for no reason
it's not like we've documented his form of insanity and obsession with his work.[/QUOTE]
Never said what he was doing was random at all. He obviously planned everything he did for the most part, but people are pretty saying "Stanley Kubrick is a genius who can do nothing wrong and if he did he obviously did it on purpose".
Even Kubrick fucked up and did shit that made no sense because it either looked better or was easier, just like every director ever.
To whoever suggested "Room 237"... Please do not watch this movie. There are a couple interesting points, but the rest is like watching an episode of Ancient Aliens. One of the worst documentaries I've seen.
The Shining is much more psychological horror than anything else. I definitely felt clueless about the layout when watching it, it still sends my brain around the bend. :(
[QUOTE=Smeetin;44776883]To whoever suggested "Room 237"... Please do not watch this movie. There are a couple interesting points, but the rest is like watching an episode of Ancient Aliens. One of the worst documentaries I've seen.[/QUOTE]
It's a documentary? But everyone so far has said movie :v:
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