Earhart searches find no obvious signs of her plane
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[quote]A team of searchers looking for proof that Amelia Earhart crashed on a remote Pacific atoll 75 years ago were on their way back to Hawaii Tuesday without any concrete evidence to prove the aviation pioneer crashed on Nikumaroro.
"Big pieces of airplane wreckage were not immediately apparent," the group behind the search, The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, said on its website.
"As is usually the case with field work, we’re coming home with more questions than answers. We are, of course, disappointed that we did not make a dramatic and conclusive discovery, but we are undaunted in our commitment to keep searching out and assembling the pieces of the Earhart puzzle," the website said.
The TIGHAR group left Honolulu on July 3 on its ninth effort to search for wreckage of the Lockheed Electra that Earhart and her navigator, Fred Noonan, were flying when they disappeared on an around-the-world flight in 1937.
The group theorizes that Earhart and Noonan landed on Nikumaroro Island - then called Gardner’s Island - after failing to find a different South Pacific island they were set to land on. The pair is believed to have landed safely and called for help using the Electra’s radio. And in a twist of fate, the plane was swept out to sea, washing away Earhart and Noonan’s only source of communication. U.S. Navy search planes flew over the island, but not seeing the Electra, passed it by and continued the search elsewhere.
Earlier this year, the group said it had come upon new evidence placing Earhart on Nikumaroro.
In March it said new analysis of a photo taken three months after Earhart and Noonan were lost showed what might have been the landing gear of Electra on a Nikumaroro reef. And in June, it said a new study suggests that dozens of radio signals once dismissed were actually transmissions from Earhart’s plane.
The searchers said Monday that five days of underwater searches around Nikumaroro had not produced any obvious signs of Earhart's Electra.
"No big shiny silver airplane, obvious to all, but the data on the various storage devices may hold treasures," the group's blog said.
But much analysis remains to be done, they said.
"We have volumes of sonar data and many hours of high-definition video to review and analyze before we will know whether we found it," the group said on its website. "Due to the limitations of the technology, we were only able to see standard-definition video images during actual search operations. Now that we're examining the recorded high-definition video, we’re already seeing objects we want our forensic imaging specialist, Jeff Glickman, to look at. We’ll also be getting expert second opinions on our best sonar targets."
Meanwhile, there was once distinct sighting of Earhart on Tuesday - on Google.
The search engine saluted Earhart on what would have been her 115th birthday with a doodle of her standing alongside a plane with Google emblazoned on the underside of the wing.[/quote]
[url]http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/earhart-searches-find-no-obvious-signs-of-her-plane/[/url]
Aw, was hoping we get to know that she managed to live out on the island.
She's like the holy grail of aviation fanatics at this point.
come on it's been a quarter of a century, you aren't finding shit.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36930449]come on it's been a quarter of a century, you aren't finding shit.[/QUOTE]
that's 25 years
it's been a little more than 25 years...
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36930449]come on it's been a quarter of a century, you aren't finding shit.[/QUOTE]
They found the Titanic 73 years after it sank, it's only been 75 years since she disappeared.
Considering its been 75 years, and they are said to have landed on a small atoll, its very possible the plane and islands have been destroyed by large storms and flooding. At this point I would focus my attention on finding engines blocks because its possible that's all that remains.
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Not to mention the large radial engines of an electra would be the biggest part of the plane after everything else erodes away.
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[QUOTE=EliteGuy;36930501]They found the Titanic 73 years after it sank, it's only been 75 years since she disappeared.[/QUOTE]
Except that was a large steel ocean liner and we knew its general location. This is a small two engines plane that crashed in the biggest geographical body on the planet- the pacific ocean.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36930449]come on it's been a quarter of a century, you aren't finding shit.[/QUOTE]
Max, stop posting without thinking. 75 years is not a quarter century.
I honestly don't see the point at this point.
Personally, I would say take the fact that they found so much other stuff on that island as evidence enough. You're not going to find much of a plane after 75 years.
Besides, how much random shit that dates from Earhart's era and potentially matches what she would've had are you ever going to find on isolated pacific atolls anyway?
[QUOTE=OvB;36930532]
Except that was a large steel ocean liner and we knew irs general location. This is a small two engines plane that crashed in the biggest geographical body on the planet- the pacific ocean.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was in the atlantic
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still doesn't change your point at all
[QUOTE=teh pirate;36930490]that's 25 years
it's been a little more than 25 years...[/QUOTE]
jesus christ i made a grammar error call the fucking police.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36934363]jesus christ i made a grammar error call the fucking police.[/QUOTE]
math error
[QUOTE=viperfan7;36934481]math error[/QUOTE]
because it matters right
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36934503]because it matters right[/QUOTE]
Yes.
I doubt that they "landed safely" on an island.
they probably fucked and made tons of baby airplanes on the island, and then they flew away.
[QUOTE=OvB;36930532]Not to mention the large radial engines of an electra would be the biggest part of the plane after everything else erodes away.
Metallurgy in those days is nowhere what it is now. Those big radials used alloys that primarily consisted of highly volatile metals like magnesium to reduce weight. Wrecks of airplanes usually have very little of the engine remaining, while the majority of the fuselage survives due to aluminum oxide forming and protecting the aluminum underneath.
Some engine fires on aircraft of the era could sometimes ignite the magnesium, which would burn so hot that it burned through the wing spar and the wing would part company from the plane.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36930449]come on it's been a quarter of a century, you aren't finding shit.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the idiots still perusing around the woods looking for sasquatch.
[QUOTE=theaceattourney;36937840]Tell that to the idiots still perusing around the woods looking for sasquatch.[/QUOTE]
"[i][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwq1C5yUN4]There's a squatch in these woods.[/url][/i]"
[QUOTE=bohb;36937686][QUOTE=OvB;36930532]Not to mention the large radial engines of an electra would be the biggest part of the plane after everything else erodes away.
Metallurgy in those days is nowhere what it is now. Those big radials used alloys that primarily consisted of highly volatile metals like magnesium to reduce weight. Wrecks of airplanes usually have very little of the engine remaining, while the majority of the fuselage survives due to aluminum oxide forming and protecting the aluminum underneath.
Some engine fires on aircraft of the era could sometimes ignite the magnesium, which would burn so hot that it burned through the wing spar and the wing would part company from the plane.[/QUOTE]
That very well could be true. Either way, they're looking for a needle in a haystack. A 75 year old needle that's rusted and broken up throughout the haystack.
[QUOTE=OvB;36940107][QUOTE=bohb;36937686]
That very well could be true. Either way, they're looking for a needle in a haystack. A 75 year old needle that's rusted and broken up throughout the haystack.[/QUOTE]
exactly why I don't see the point in looking for it.
Have they searched the Delta Quadrant yet?
[QUOTE=critein_protein;36944742]Have they searched the Delta Quadrant yet?[/QUOTE]
I was wondering when someone would say this.
We have to wait for Voyager to get there.
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