• Colorado and California are about to get another thing in common aside from the letter C! Recall Vot
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[quote][IMG]http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2013/1024/20131024__ssjm1025recalls~1_300.JPG[/IMG] SACRAMENTO -- Emboldened by the recall of two Colorado lawmakers last month, California gun-rights activists within a few weeks will be collecting petition signatures to kick several state lawmakers out of office, the activists announced Thursday.Free California, a nonprofit founded by a Republican strategist who was involved in the Colorado recalls and who is now the spokeswoman for Assemblyman Tim Donnelly's campaign for governor, held a news conference with Donnelly and others Thursday on the steps of the state Capitol. Named as potential targets were state Sens. Norma Torres, D-Chino, and Ben Hueso, D-Chula Vista; Assemblywomen Lorena Gonzalez, D-San Diego, and Sharon Quirk-Silva, D-Fullerton; and Assembly Speaker John Perez, D-Los Angeles. Free California founder Jennifer Kerns later Thursday said the list may change but should be finalized in about two weeks. Then "we'll get to work immediately on collecting signatures" from holiday-season shoppers, she said. "Based upon the reaction of the people in California, we can't not do it," she said. "We have to listen to the people." Kerns said her group is picking targets who actively supported 12 gun-control bills, including SB374, which would have added all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines to the state's list of banned assault weapons, and AB711, which will ban lead ammunition in hunting by 2019. Earlier this month, Gov. Jerry Brown vetoed the former but signed the latter into law. Political opportunity is part of the calculation too, Kerns said: Her group will target lawmakers in swing districts, especially those who were put into office in special elections. It takes signatures equal to 12 percent of the votes cast in an officeholder's last election to put a recall on the ballot, so those sent to Sacramento by special elections require fewer signatures. Torres, Hueso and Gonzalez won their seats in special elections. Kerns said the campaign's funding "as we start out is going to come from regular everyday people." The National Rifle Association spent heavily on the Colorado recalls, although it was outspent by recall opponents funded by national gun-control advocates such as New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.[/quote] [URL="http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24381934/california-gun-control-votes-trigger-recall-attempts"]San Jose Mercury News[/URL] Why does it seem that people who want gun rights, are the only people willing to vote to recall people? It's like... Why hasn't anyone recalled people against abortion, recalled anyone against gay marriage, or otherwise...?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;42638427] Why does it seem that people who want gun rights, are the only people willing to vote to recall people? It's like... Why hasn't anyone recalled people against abortion, recalled anyone against gay marriage, or otherwise...?[/QUOTE] Guns are more entrenched in American society, culture and history than any of those things.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;42638427][URL="http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24381934/california-gun-control-votes-trigger-recall-attempts"]San Jose Mercury News[/URL] Why does it seem that people who want gun rights, are the only people willing to vote to recall people? It's like... Why hasn't anyone recalled people against abortion, recalled anyone against gay marriage, or otherwise...?[/QUOTE] Deserved recalls should happen more often IMO, there need to be penalties for not representing the people you were elected to represent. I feel like everyone in office would do a better job if doing poorly meant getting the boot. EDIT: [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42638464]Guns are more entrenched in American society, culture and history than any of those things.[/QUOTE] Those things are no less important, but (as far as I know) there's nothing in the Constitution about abortion, gay marriage, and such. It's easy to say someone's stance on gun control is unacceptable and have your words backed up by fact, but there isn't anything explicitly stating the government may not take certain stands on gay marriage, for instance, so it seems like it would be easier to weasel your way out of being recalled for your stance on it.
i think OP is responsible for at least 80% of gun threads in SH :v:
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42638481]i think OP is responsible for at least 80% of gun threads in SH :v:[/QUOTE] And Puerto Rico 51st Statehood threads, don't forget that.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42638481]i think OP is responsible for at least 80% of gun threads in SH :v:[/QUOTE] Just look at his avatar!
Yes, let's protect the guns. Everything else that is currently killing California will have to wait until the guns are safe.
and the letter l and r and a
[QUOTE]Then "we'll get to work immediately on collecting signatures" from holiday-season shoppers, she said. "Based upon the reaction of the people in California, we can't not do it," she said. "We have to listen to the people."[/QUOTE] Frankly, I don't consider standing outside stores pressuring people into signing petitions that they almost definitely don't fully understand "listening to the people". On the other hand, the nauseating parade of misinformation when it comes to "assault weapons" in California is one of the (minor) reasons I moved... to Colorado, for that matter. [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;42638427]Why does it seem that people who want gun rights, are the only people willing to vote to recall people? It's like... Why hasn't anyone recalled people against abortion, recalled anyone against gay marriage, or otherwise...?[/QUOTE] Gun nuts are really some of the most crazed people when it comes to protecting their rights, and I mean that in a good way.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;42638659] Gun nuts are really some of the most crazed people when it comes to protecting their rights, and I mean that in a good way.[/QUOTE] im glad for that we do need, and this is gonna sound really dumb but, people who do stand up for our rights. taking away rights does end up being a slippery slope
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;42638508]Yes, let's protect the guns. Everything else that is currently killing California will have to wait until the guns are safe.[/QUOTE] You do realize Cali has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation?
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;42638508]Yes, let's protect the guns. Everything else that is currently killing California will have to wait until the guns are safe.[/QUOTE] No one said everything else has to wait. Governments can multi-task, you know.
I thought it was gonna be Cannabis :(.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;42639048]I thought it was gonna be Cannabis :(.[/QUOTE] Well if this works, it should be seen as a signal to start getting rid of the politicians who are stalling progress.
I'm glad this is happening; so many gun laws are passed over here before anyone has a chance to blink. Seriously, I almost never hear about gun laws until after they're approved, and they're always related to baby killing pistol grips or some other inane bullshit.
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