Man charged with raping 13y/o girl had been deported 10 times, voluntarily removed from US 9 times - Polidicks

[quote]A Mexican man accused of raping a 13-year-old girl on a Greyhound bus that traveled through Kansas had been deported 10 times and voluntarily removed from the U.S. another nine times since 2003, records obtained by The Associated Press show. Three U.S. Republican senators — including Kansas' Jerry Moran and Pat Roberts — demanded this month that the Department of Homeland Security provide immigration records for 38-year-old Tomas Martinez-Maldonado, who is charged with a felony in the alleged Sept. 27 attack aboard a bus in Geary County. He is being held in the Geary County jail in Junction City, which is about 120 miles west of Kansas City. U.S. Sen. Charles Grassley, from Iowa and chairman of the judiciary committee, co-signed a Dec. 9 letter with Moran and Roberts to Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, calling it "an extremely disturbing case" and questioning how Martinez-Maldonado was able to re-enter and remain in the country. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said it has placed a detainer — a request to turn Martinez-Maldonado over to ICE custody before he is released — with Geary County. ICE declined to discuss his specific case beyond its October statement regarding the 10 deportations. Court filings show Martinez-Maldonado has two misdemeanor convictions for entering without legal permission in cases prosecuted in 2013 and 2015 in U.S. District Court of Arizona, where he was sentenced to serve 60 days and 165 days respectively. A status hearing in the rape case is scheduled for Jan. 10. Defense attorney Lisa Hamer declined to comment on the charge, but said, "criminal law and immigration definitely intersect and nowadays it should be the responsibility of every criminal defense attorney to know the possible ramifications in the immigration courts." Nationwide, 52 percent of all federal prosecutions in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 were for entry or re-entry without legal permission and similar immigration violations, according to Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University.[/quote] [url]https://apnews.com/0a51c183539c4e8e9f8737cd9f658f81[/url]

Wall. Build it. but for real how the fuck can you be deported 10 times, like our law says deportation is a 10 year ban from the country. Pretty sure being deported the second time means we hold you for 2 years.

[QUOTE=Binladen34;51604544]but for real how the fuck can you be deported 10 times, like our law says deportation is a 10 year ban from the country. Pretty sure being deported the second time means we hold you for 2 years.[/QUOTE] i know little of deportation and how it works so if someone reading this thread does please inform us on how it works

Just throw him in a deep hole, like a mile deep.

[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;51604750]i know little of deportation and how it works so if someone reading this thread does please inform us on how it works[/QUOTE] As far as I've read, it's either a 5, 10, 20 year or permanent ban. Can be maneuvered around with the proper visas though Idk how this guy pulled it off though [editline]31st December 2016[/editline] Guess it'd be hard to keep a record on a guy if he's got no formal paperwork though

[QUOTE=No Party Hats;51605021] Guess it'd be hard to keep a record on a guy if he's got no formal paperwork though[/QUOTE] Can't they just finger print on deportation? Or take a DNA sample?

[QUOTE=Binladen34;51604544]Wall. Build it. but for real how the fuck can you be deported 10 times, like our law says deportation is a 10 year ban from the country. Pretty sure being deported the second time means we hold you for 2 years.[/QUOTE] It sounds like he made a plea deal at least twice and had the charges lowered to just a misdemeanor. Also a wall isn't going to do shit. I'm thinking Intelligent Munitions Systems and some surveillance drones would do the trick.

Intelligent munitions systems, as in shooting anybody crossing the border? Or am I misunderstanding your intent here?

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51605516]Intelligent munitions systems, as in shooting anybody crossing the border? Or am I misunderstanding your intent here?[/QUOTE] If i'm not mistaken, this is what he was talking about [url]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/ims.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51605525]If i'm not mistaken, this is what he was talking about [url]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/ims.htm[/url][/QUOTE] I'm still a bit confused, and further searches aren't dispelling that. It seems to be referring to landmines and/or missiles? If it's landmines he's asking for, even "intelligent" mines, then absolutely fuckin' not lol. That's not only massive overkill in terms of what kind of response is even actually needed, but landmines are themselves a terribly dangerous, long lasting, and impersonal weapon that kills without prejudice. Even so-called smart mines are highly imperfect, with an allowed failure rate of communication and self-termination procedures of up to 10%. With millions of undiscovered mines still left scattered throughout the world, the absolute last thing we ought to be doing is planting more. If he was not referring to landmines, then sorry for the digression! Further explanation would be helpful.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51605516]Intelligent munitions systems, as in shooting anybody crossing the border? Or am I misunderstanding your intent here?[/QUOTE] No it wouldn't be shooting anyone trying to cross the border, that would just be barbaric. Instead it would humanely explode them out of existence! :v: Seriously though, it could be used as a means to help border security[B] if they use the non lethal ones.[/B] The IMS isn't just a landmine; it's a semi-autonomous area denial system with sensors which can track the movement of nearby vehicles or personnel. Also each IMS device can communicate with each other and form an array which relays activity back to the operators of the system. So basically if you lined the entire border with a giant array of these systems, you could essentially have an invisible fence which detects unauthorized entry AND acts as a non lethal deterrent. Basically like an invisible fence dog collar but for smugglers.

deport him to the sun

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;51605634]No it wouldn't be shooting anyone trying to cross the border, that would just be barbaric. Instead it would humanely explode them out of existence! :v: Seriously though, it could be used as a means to help border security[B] if they use the non lethal ones.[/B] The IMS isn't just a landmine; it's a semi-autonomous area denial system with sensors which can track the movement of nearby vehicles or personnel. Also each IMS device can communicate with each other and form an array which relays activity back to the operators of the system. So basically if you lined the entire border with a giant array of these systems, you could essentially have an invisible fence which detects unauthorized entry AND acts as a non lethal deterrent. Basically like an invisible fence dog collar but for smugglers.[/QUOTE] Ah, I see! I guess I was mixing up the system itself with the munitions it was designed to work with? If it's primarily an unarmed sensor gri that can pinpoint and report movement, then that's a totally different story. Combining such a system with autonomous drones to track groups of smugglers and illegal immigrants until border security can arrives certainly sounds like a much more intelligent, and potentially cost effective system than a physical wall.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51605589]I'm still a bit confused, and further searches aren't dispelling that. It seems to be referring to landmines and/or missiles? If it's landmines he's asking for, even "intelligent" mines, then absolutely fuckin' not lol. That's not only massive overkill in terms of what kind of response is even actually needed, but landmines are themselves a terribly dangerous, long lasting, and impersonal weapon that kills without prejudice. Even so-called smart mines are highly imperfect, with an allowed failure rate of communication and self-termination procedures of up to 10%. With millions of undiscovered mines still left scattered throughout the world, the absolute last thing we ought to be doing is planting more. If he was not referring to landmines, then sorry for the digression! Further explanation would be helpful.[/QUOTE] While I'm not advocating for mines at the border, because that is insane, I should point out that modern mines require an electric charge to detonate. They have batteries that chemically fail after a certain amount of time. They are left with a live explosive, but are completely stable and physically cannot detonate.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51605661]Ah, I see! I guess I was mixing up the system itself with the munitions it was designed to work with? If it's primarily an unarmed sensor gri that can pinpoint and report movement, then that's a totally different story. Combining such a system with autonomous drones to track groups of smugglers and illegal immigrants until border security can arrives certainly sounds like a much more intelligent, and potentially cost effective system than a physical wall.[/QUOTE] Well, the non-lethal ones are still armed, but they just use rubber bullets instead of explosives designed to take out vehicles from above. [QUOTE=GunFox;51605919]While I'm not advocating for mines at the border, because that is insane, I should point out that modern mines require an electric charge to detonate. They have batteries that chemically fail after a certain amount of time. They are left with a live explosive, but are completely stable and physically cannot detonate.[/QUOTE] This is what I get for trying to be a smartass on Facepunch :suicide: Just watch [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2upxZigECyk"]this video[/URL] to see how the system works. Near the end it says they were working on a non-lethal version as well. Unlike conventional landmines, this system was designed specifically to give all the advantages of a minefield, without the indiscriminate and horrific collateral damage they leave afterwards. An entire array of the IMS devices can be remotely deactivated to allow for safe passage once an incoming object or person has been identified, or if they want to dismantle/recover the systems.

When there is no real consequence to you for your actions... Why stop?

Criminal migrants aren't actually the biggest problem we have immigration wise. That being said, stories like this are disturbing and they served Trump well during the election.

Either way, I assume that he's going to be put away in jail for a long, long time if he's guilty. Problem solved.