• Roy Moore: last time America was "great" was during "Slavery"
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[URL="http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-last-time-america-great-during-slavery-741845"]http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-last-time-america-great-during-slavery-741845[/URL] [QUOTE]Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate under fire for alleged sexual misconduct with teenage girls when he was in his 30s, apparently believes America was a better place at a time when slavery was still legal. At a campaign event earlier this year, an audience member asked Moore for his opinion on when the last time America was "great." Moore responded: "I think it was great at the time when families were united—even though we had slavery—they cared for one another…Our families were strong, our country had a direction." The individual who asked the question was among the few African-Americans in attendance at the rally, according to the Los Angeles Times. Moore's remarks were featured in an article from the Times in September, but resurfaced Thursday in a viral tweet from Eric Columbus, a former Obama administration official. "Can't make this up—Roy Moore said in September that the last time America was great was when we had slavery," Columbus tweeted.[/QUOTE]
Is this some milgram experiment shit. Make a candidate worse and worse and see how far the subjects (voters) will go Either a social experiment or performance art
Shocking development: man who's morals are allegedly loose enough to rape a child holds other morally reprehensible views. I'd be surprised if he drew the line at slavery tbh.
He's still going to win. Pedophile is worse than a racist and Alabama crossed that line awhile ago. Anything short of him killing kids on camera isn't going to stop the GOP train.
[QUOTE=Fort83;52959156]That wouldn't even stop it. They'd just say that killing kids is better than being a Democrat.[/QUOTE] the kids were liberals so they deserved it
I feel like I should be surprised. But I'm not. I think we can consider Alabama a lost cause at this point and cordon it off if they elect this fucked up person. Wait. What am I saying, Trump was elected. Nothing is normal and sane now.
Holy shit, I cannot believe he didn't even say it vaguely or subtly. He outright said during the time of slavery what the ever loving fuck
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52959166]Holy fuck, he actually brought up slavery. How are people defending this man[/QUOTE] He's not a Democrat. That's literally it.
From what I've read of Alabama, justifying slavery probably wins you as many voters as you lose. [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52959169]Holy shit, I cannot believe he didn't even say it vaguely or subtly. He outright said during the time of slavery what the ever loving fuck[/QUOTE] There was literally no reason for him to mention slavery. He could have just kept it general and reminiscence back to some general traditional America but he dropped that in needlessly.
[QUOTE=nagachief;52959172]He's not a Democrat. That's literally it.[/QUOTE] Its way more than that. It's Alabama. It's one of the most fucking racist states in the entire country, if not [I]the most. [/I]At least some of the people voting for Roy Moore are probably longing for the good old days when they could have their own house nigger. Roy Moore isn't just not the other guy, he literally is one of them.
What the fuck America.
People are finding more choice quotes. Skip to 6:45 [video]https://youtu.be/SWZKDqRCKB8[/video] How the fuck is this guy 4 points behind his opponent.
These people make me wish the South really would secede.
[QUOTE=c:;52959338]These people make me wish the South really would secede.[/QUOTE] So long as the north accepts those who don't want to be a part of this clusterfuck like me, I am ok with this.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52959328]People are finding more choice quotes. Skip to 6:45 [video]https://youtu.be/SWZKDqRCKB8[/video] How the fuck is this guy 4 points behind his opponent.[/QUOTE] These questions are so misleading. I really hate when people ask questions, record 1 sentence responses because concision, and don't let the interviewees explain themselves. I'm just super skeptical of not letting people talk. If their ideas are so clearly in Putin's pockets, then they should speak at length, not a bunch of soundbytes To be fair, the answers shown might be totally accurate. Im just saying I wish the delivery was way different.
Wonder if he'll try to reboot the Confederate?
[QUOTE=Hatley;52959642]Wonder if he'll try to reboot the Confederate?[/QUOTE] I always knew the south would rise again!
[QUOTE=nagachief;52959412]So long as the north accepts those who don't want to be a part of this clusterfuck like me, I am ok with this.[/QUOTE] no they wouldn't
[QUOTE=artDecor;52959670]no they wouldn't[/QUOTE] I guess those refugees fleeing persecution from a rogue Christian theocratic state can find shelter in Canada, then. :downs:
It was a badly worded comment, but it's hard for me to believe that you guys don't see why he said it like that. He was answering the question of a black person and knew that the automatic response would be: "How can you say that was the last time America was great if it was a time with slaver?" So he preempted the follow up by agreeing that slavery was bad in his answer.
[QUOTE=sgman91;52959704]It was a badly worded comment, but it's hard for me to believe that you guys don't see why he said it like that. He was answering the question of a black person and knew that the automatic response would be: "How can you say that was the last time America was great if it was a time with slaver?" So he preempted the follow up by agreeing that slavery was bad in his answer.[/QUOTE] Instead it comes across as him saying that slavery is ultimately fine or not that big a deal just as long as "our families are united" and "our country has a direction"
[QUOTE=sgman91;52959704]It was a badly worded comment, but it's hard for me to believe that you guys don't see why he said it like that. He was answering the question of a black person and knew that the automatic response would be: "How can you say that was the last time America was great if it was a time with slaver?" So he preempted the follow up by agreeing that slavery was bad in his answer.[/QUOTE] No mate, I'm sorry - you don't have *any* chance of convincing us that this time.
[QUOTE=c:;52959338]These people make me wish the South really would secede.[/QUOTE] I think a majority of America's cultural problems all originate from the Southern identity.
[QUOTE=sgman91;52959704]It was a badly worded comment, but it's hard for me to believe that you guys don't see why he said it like that. He was answering the question of a black person and knew that the automatic response would be: "How can you say that was the last time America was great if it was a time with slaver?" So he preempted the follow up by agreeing that slavery was bad in his answer.[/QUOTE] I'm getting a little bored of these politicians with their poor wording. If you can't answer the question of when's the last time America was "great" without alluding to slavery, at very least, not being that bad, maybe don't get into politics in the first place. Not that his answer wasn't trash regardless. Maybe people would be more inclined to believe he wasn't advocating slavery if slavery wasn't the one thing he mentioned in his answer with some real basis - as opposed to vague nostalgia fluff for a time he didn't live in.
You know, this shit sounds familiar. During the Nevada-BLM (that's Bureau of Land Management not Black Lives Matter) standoff in 2014, many conservative politicians supported the Bundys' "range war" against the feds. [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1388257"]Until Cliven Bundy went off the rails at a press conference and talked a bunch of racist shit about how "the Negro" was better off in the slavery era instead of being on welfare in the modern era.[/URL] [QUOTE]"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do. "And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" he asked. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."[/QUOTE] This sounds [I]reeeeaaaaaal[/I] familiar. [QUOTE]"This is the beginning of taking America back," said Shawna Cox, who had come from Kanab, Utah, to support him.[/QUOTE] three years later, this is chilling as fuck
[QUOTE=sgman91;52959704]It was a badly worded comment, but it's hard for me to believe that you guys don't see why he said it like that. He was answering the question of a black person and knew that the automatic response would be: "How can you say that was the last time America was great if it was a time with slaver?" So he preempted the follow up by agreeing that slavery was bad in his answer.[/QUOTE] Doesn't make it any better; he could have easily just said "When our families were united and our country had direction" which would have been vague as fuck but still exactly the sort of answer you would expect from a politician like him. Instead he [I]explicitly[/I] said that the last time America was great was when we had slavery. Not the idealized 1950s that most conservative politicians appeal to, not when our country was united in fighting in WW2, not when we rebuilt our country after the Civil War, the [I]only description he gave[/I] was when we had slavery. If that doesn't ring some alarms in your head then I don't know what to say.
[QUOTE=sgman91;52959704]It was a badly worded comment, but it's hard for me to believe that you guys don't see why he said it like that. He was answering the question of a black person and knew that the automatic response would be: "How can you say that was the last time America was great if it was a time with slaver?" So he preempted the follow up by agreeing that slavery was bad in his answer.[/QUOTE] If the country is united, and slavery is still a thing, then the country isn't actually united and it's just a fucking lie. He could have pointed at any time period after slavery was done as a time period for that, the 50's is the stereotypical conservative dream time so why not go with that? It just seems that he's racist with everything he does like this.
[QUOTE] "I think it was great at the time when families were united—[B]even though we had slavery[/B]—they cared for one another…Our families were strong, our country had a direction."[/QUOTE] He mentioned it but this isn't saying 'slavery was good', it was saying 'despite it'. It was all a bunch of bullshit about families, though this will come back around to his anti gay stance
So if america was great back then they should elect a democrat because the democrats were running the south not the republicans. Ha take that illogic¡
[QUOTE=J!NX;52959779]He mentioned it but this isn't saying 'slavery was good', it was saying 'despite it' It was all a bunch of bullshit about families, though this will come back around to his anti gay stance[/QUOTE] White families were united. Black families were broken up to keep strong spirited slaves from having other strong spirited people around to rise up with.
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