• The Kessler Syndrome
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[video=youtube;VmDKQz39xh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmDKQz39xh8[/video] :goodjob: Humans...
obligatory there's an anime about this [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8OKlG3MWw[/media] [sp]and it's p good[/sp]
[QUOTE=Xavith;52423977]obligatory there's an anime about this [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8OKlG3MWw[/media] [sp]and it's p good[/sp][/QUOTE] It's pretty friggin intense for a show about garbage dudes in space.
[QUOTE=Xavith;52423977]obligatory there's an anime about this [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8OKlG3MWw[/media] [sp]and it's p good[/sp][/QUOTE] I generally dislike anime and even I can recommend this to fellow space nerds. It is almost at 2001: A Space Odysseys level of engineering related thoroughness and detail. The weird personal propulsion system is a bit on the meh side and the quality of animation can be a bit on the mediocre side at times but overall great quality. I even tried building some of the vehicles in Kerbal Space Program.
Ez fix just send up a giant net to catch it all.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;52424174]I generally dislike anime and even I can recommend this to fellow space nerds. It is almost at 2001: A Space Odysseys level of engineering related thoroughness and detail. The weird personal propulsion system is a bit on the meh side and the quality of animation can be a bit on the mediocre side at times but overall great quality. I even tried building some of the vehicles in Kerbal Space Program.[/QUOTE] One thing that took a minute to get used to was that all the zero g animation was done at nearly twice the frame rate.
Crazy that a flake of paint could do damage like that.
[QUOTE=PieClock;52424671]Crazy that a flake of paint could do damage like that.[/QUOTE] Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space for a reason.
I think, since there's such a huge economic incentive to fix the issue, that it will never become such a huge issue that we can't do anything about it and are trapped on earth, ya know? If companies with a shit ton of money need to protect their satellites, they'll protect their satellites.
[QUOTE=abananapeel;52425072]I think, since there's such a huge economic incentive to fix the issue, that it will never become such a huge issue that we can't do anything about it and are trapped on earth, ya know? If companies with a shit ton of money need to protect their satellites, they'll protect their satellites.[/QUOTE] No, they'll send up new satellites to replace the ones that got shredded by space debris. It's the cheaper and easier solution than figuring out how to clean up the outer atmosphere, and it will compound the problem.
I always remember how Gravity showed this, it bothered me because even if the whole kessler syndrome thing happened in some kind of rapid cascade, the amount of junk out at geosynchronous orbits is a lot less than in LEO. Geostationary satellites and really anything outside of LEO would probably keep functioning normally even if LEO is fucked, but even though it was a movie that tried to be pretty realistic it was still a movie so I guess it needed some kind of catastrophe.
[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;52425151]No, they'll send up new satellites to replace the ones that got shredded by space debris. It's the cheaper and easier solution than figuring out how to clean up the outer atmosphere, and it will compound the problem.[/QUOTE] There will come a point when they will need to clean it up or figure something else out. They wont just keep throwing shit out there, wasting money on all the cost of sending satellites up every year or so.
As he pointed out in the video. We won't really do too much about it until it becomes a big enough of a problem. So probably 10-20 years at current rates
[QUOTE=Xavith;52426458]As he pointed out in the video. We won't really do too much about it until it becomes a big enough of a problem. So probably 10-20 years at current rates[/QUOTE] That's not what he said in the video at all??? He said agencies are trying to tackle the problem now before it cascades into an even bigger problem. He also said that if the cascade happened before we could help eliminate space debris, human ingenuity would most likely be able to tackle the problem, but it's better to resolve the issue first before it gets to that stage.
[QUOTE=Jake Nukem;52424501]Ez fix just send up a giant net to catch it all.[/QUOTE] But now you have more junk in space. Space junk wins everytime.
[QUOTE=loopoo;52427631]That's not what he said in the video at all??? He said agencies are trying to tackle the problem now before it cascades into an even bigger problem. He also said that if the cascade happened before we could help eliminate space debris, human ingenuity would most likely be able to tackle the problem, but it's better to resolve the issue first before it gets to that stage.[/QUOTE] While the agencies at work tackling this issue are doing good work, the amount of debris is still increasing and is likely to become a bigger problem. Which in turn is going to make people allocate more resources towards solving it, which is what I meant.
I mean, there's 50 years worth of junk up there already, and it's only gonna increase as said junk collides with other junk and creates more junk. The agencies have done the best they can by implementing protocols to prevent further junk from being excessively added to orbit, and maybe that'll be enough to curb things from getting too bad too quick. That's the point he was making. We're not gonna let things get so bad to the point where we're forced to collectively tackle it as a species, but instead are nipping it in the bud so as not to have that situation arise.
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