North Korea ready to launch nuclear missiles at any time
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[url]http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/north-korean-envoy-claims-his-country-has-nuclear-missiles-1.2290675[/url]
[QUOTE]LONDON -- A North Korean envoy says his country has developed nuclear missiles and is prepared to use them at any time.
North Korean Ambassador to Britain Hyun Hak Bong said in a recent interview with British broadcaster Sky News that his government would use the missiles in response to a nuclear attack by the United States.
Asked whether North Korea has the ability now to launch a nuclear missile, Hyun replied: "Any time. Any time. Yes."
"If the United States strike us, we should strike back," he said.
Asked if North Korea would only fire nuclear missiles in retaliation, Hyun replied: "We are a peace-loving people you know. We don't want war but we are not afraid of war. This is our policy of the government."
North Korea is thought to have a handful of crude nuclear bombs and has conducted three nuclear tests since 2006. But experts are divided on how far it has come in developing the technology needed to miniaturize warheads so they can be placed on missiles.
The spokesman for South Korea's Defence Ministry, Kim Min-seok, said Saturday that while North Korea might have advanced its technologies for miniaturizing nuclear warheads so they can be installed on missiles, Seoul does not believe they have succeeded yet.
Kim pointed out that the North has conducted only three nuclear tests so far and it's unclear how successful they were.
The Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security recently estimated that North Korea currently has between 10 and 16 nuclear weapons, some based on plutonium, others on uranium. It concluded that North Korea already has plutonium-based weapons small enough to mount on medium-range and intercontinental-range missiles.
The United Nations has imposed sanctions on North Korea over its nuclear and missile programs.[/QUOTE]
stop dick waving kimmy.
if by "nuclear" you mean a bomb the size of a semi-truck, and by "missile" you mean a semi truck to haul it, then yes
either way NK missile tech is laughable, in ICBMs the missile part is only a quarter of the important bits, the guidance and re-entry vehicle shape, as well as miniaturization of the nuclear weapon itself are the biggest techs needed for actual ICBMs
[QUOTE=Sableye;47365422]if by "nuclear" you mean a bomb the size of a semi-truck, and by "missile" you mean a semi truck to haul it, then yes
either way NK missile tech is laughable, in ICBMs the missile part is only a quarter of the important bits, the guidance and re-entry vehicle shape, as well as miniaturization of the nuclear weapon itself are the biggest techs needed for actual ICBMs[/QUOTE]
I don't know weather or not you're right or wrong, but you aren't very qualified to state such things as fact are you.
They say this all the time
[QUOTE=isreal?;47365461]I don't know weather or not you're right or wrong, but you aren't very qualified to state such things as fact are you.[/QUOTE]
the bulk of the US's nuclear weapons programs for the last 40 years have been miniturizing the warhead, electronics, re-entry vehicle research, and improving guidance systems, the rocket tech has pretty much remained static since the late 1960s with the introduction of the minute man systems, the later itterations are essentially the same in terms of rocket tech, 2 solid rocket boosters, and essentially all the ICBM weilding countries have gone that route. in terms of my actual knowledge of the NK nuclear program, yes you're right, but the first US nuclear weapons were the size of semi-trailers, and that was with the enourmous resources we have, nobody has seen a NK device, they've been smart to keep the tests underground but the released info has shown that either the device is really small, or they are really bad at nuclear weapons with calculated yeilds in only about a dozen kilotons. further, nothing they've shot off appears capable of carrying a warhead of any sufficient size except for their satellite launch vehicle which would require extensive heat transfer modeling as well as hypersonic testing to design a sufficient re-entry vehicle to even let the warhead survive launch and re-entry
we built enourmous facilities dedicated to this, with wind tunnels that took entire power generation capacities of small cities, how can a country that can barely turn on its lights even be able of that?
i'm in engineering and while i don't fully know the problems, i know enough to understand the magnitude of some of the problems such as re-entry vehicles and the fluid dynamic work that has to be done
[QUOTE=Sableye;47365537]the bulk of the US's nuclear weapons programs for the last 40 years have been miniturizing the warhead, electronics, re-entry vehicle research, and improving guidance systems, the rocket tech has pretty much remained static since the late 1960s with the introduction of the minute man systems, the later itterations are essentially the same in terms of rocket tech, 2 solid rocket boosters, and essentially all the ICBM weilding countries have gone that route. in terms of my actual knowledge of the NK nuclear program, yes you're right, but the first US nuclear weapons were the size of semi-trailers, and that was with the enourmous resources we have, nobody has seen a NK device, they've been smart to keep the tests underground but the released info has shown that either the device is really small, or they are really bad at nuclear weapons with calculated yeilds in only about a dozen kilotons. further, nothing they've shot off appears capable of carrying a warhead of any sufficient size except for their satellite launch vehicle which would require extensive heat transfer modeling as well as hypersonic testing to design a sufficient re-entry vehicle to even let the warhead survive launch and re-entry
we built enourmous facilities dedicated to this, with wind tunnels that took entire power generation capacities of small cities, how can a country that can barely turn on its lights even be able of that?[/QUOTE]
I don't know, but you really don't have any proof do you.
[QUOTE=isreal?;47365542]I don't know, but you really don't have any proof do you.[/QUOTE]
NK doesn't have the capacity to turn on its lights and nobody's said anything about massive wind tunnel testing facilities, or hypersonic missile tests or any number of very obvious milestones it takes to go from launching a rocket and detonating a nuclear bomb to making an ICBM
ya i don't have much beyond what the news reports, but i sincerely doubt they have the facilities to build an ICBM, i know quite a lot about the scale it takes to make ICBMs from plenty of reading i've done on the subject
It took the US 20 years from the development of the bomb to manufacture a nuclear equipped ICBM.
It's doubtful that NK has a missile with a throw weight large enough to launch a non-miniaturised nuclear warhead.
Hell, they haven't even got any nuclear warheads working properly. Every single detonation so far has been a fizzle.
If I was the Sea of Japan, I would be shaking in my boots right now.
I find it actually laughable. Their most recent nuclear test only has half the kilotons the Hiroshima bomb has. Its like trying to cut a slice of watermelon with just a needle.
[QUOTE]"If the United States strike us, we should strike back," he said.[/QUOTE]
Jesus christ, can they just stop obsessing over us? We had a war 60 years ago, just shut the fuck up about it.
[QUOTE=isreal?;47365542]I don't know, but you really don't have any proof do you.[/QUOTE]
A nuclear weapons test is extremely easy to detect via seismographs, from there they can pinpoint where it occurred and what it's power was.
Their nuclear capability is of the same level as we were in world war 2.
Even if they launched a handful and they exploded within their own territory, surely it would have a significant impact on the rest of the world?
Like just because they're still using firecrackers and roman candles to launch their hardware doesn't mean their possession and development of said hardware shouldn't be concerning
[QUOTE=Maloof?;47366559]Even if they launched a handful and they exploded within their own territory, surely it would have a significant impact on the rest of the world?
Like just because they're still using firecrackers and roman candles to launch their hardware doesn't mean their possession and development of said hardware shouldn't be concerning[/QUOTE]
That assumes they can get a roman candle in our territory without having it blown out of the sky. I don't think we should get concerned over this because if we take the bait, it'll just give NK a reason to retaliate.
[QUOTE=isreal?;47365461]I don't know weather or not you're right or wrong, but you aren't very qualified to state such things as fact are you.[/QUOTE]
Its not rocket science, dude. Oh wait..
[sp]Actually, you don't need to be a genius to understand that he's right. But if your main argument is that we don't have a degree to state things, ok then . [/sp]
They seem pretty fucking piss-scared of the USA invading them.
you people aren't gonna be laughing when the missile actually hits the usa
[QUOTE=deadoon;47366497]A nuclear weapons test is extremely easy to detect via seismographs, from there they can pinpoint where it occurred and what it's power was.
Their nuclear capability is of the same level as we were in world war 2.[/QUOTE]
Less than actually.
[QUOTE=Evi.tf;47366872]you people aren't gonna be laughing when the missile actually hits the usa[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it'll hit the U.S. alright. If the wind if blowing in the right direction, I'll say it might hit the US embassy in SK at maximum.
[QUOTE=Evi.tf;47366872]you people aren't gonna be laughing when the missile actually hits the usa[/QUOTE]
If that would happen, nobody will laugh because it will turn into a massive shitfest with a lot of dead people.
but will they work
bigdong is not useful if cannot work :v:
"North Korea ready to blow itself up at any time"
I sincerely doubt NK is capable of producing a missile capable of not only reaching North America but being able to bypass our defenses.. It'd be detected and blown out of the sky before Kim can say "swiss cheese".
[QUOTE=BazzBerry;47367115]I sincerely doubt NK is capable of producing a missile capable of not only reaching North America but being able to bypass our defenses.. It'd be detected and blown out of the sky before Kim can say "swiss cheese".[/QUOTE]
Ballistic missile defense is actually really difficult.
[QUOTE=ksenior;47367211]Ballistic missile defense is actually really difficult.[/QUOTE]
Difficult, but not impossible.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_missile_defense[/url]
[B]Edit[/B]: Who am I kidding I know nothing about missiles
[QUOTE=isreal?;47365461]I don't know weather or not you're right or wrong, but you aren't very qualified to state such things as fact are you.[/QUOTE]
I don't know whether or not you actually know what you're writing, but when somebody smarter than you does their best to lay out their understanding of something you know nothing about, it can be a wonderful opportunity to learn (like how to spell, for instance.) Your skepticism isn't unfounded. This is the internet, we are all layman and trolls, but your mortal doubt of trying to understand is disturbing.
Almost as disturbing as periods at the end of query inflected run-ons.
Well knowing the way they just exaggerate all their "accomplishments" in NK state news, the reality is msot likely they managed to build a rig and pirate Kerbal Space Program for it and managed to build a rocket in it :v:
[QUOTE=isreal?;47365542]I don't know, but you really don't have any proof do you.[/QUOTE]
Dude their basic weaponry and vehicles alone have been "mythbusted" as near barn find levels of old. You really think they have nukes able to even cross 1000 km?
[QUOTE=kweh;47367429]Dude their basic weaponry and vehicles alone have been "mythbusted" as near barn find levels of old. You really think they have nukes able to even cross 1000 km?[/QUOTE]
1000km by truck.
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