• A great Idea for a new smartphone - Phonebloks
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c[/media] It's like he's attempting kony2012 for phones....
It's a neat idea, not sure if it'll take off but would be cool to see.
The website seems to be down.
[QUOTE=Killer900;42145297]It's a neat idea, not sure if it'll take off but would be cool to see.[/QUOTE] it's near impossible, you don't just simply make some base and plugging in things magically work. Especially because he shows you can just plug anything anywhere [QUOTE=Vilusia;42145339]The website seems to be down.[/QUOTE] that's the default page after you install apache, the website is up there just isn't anything added to it
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;42145361]it's near impossible, you don't just simply make some base and plugging in things magically work. Especially because he shows you can just plug anything anywhere[/QUOTE] How is it impossible if you don't mind me asking. I don't know much about how these things work. Couldn't they store the important bits to the blox and have like a central block that receives all the data from the other changable ones?
It seems like it would be a great idea. [editline]10th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Goz3rr;42145361]it's near impossible, you don't just simply make some base and plugging in things magically work. Especially because he shows you can just plug anything anywhere that's the default page after you install apache, the website is up there just isn't anything added to it[/QUOTE] It might be near impossible now but i'm sure if enough investors thought it was a good idea it would get enough funding to make it possible. I kinda think it could work, the trick would be getting the board to understand where each part is connected to make sure its sending and receiving to the right areas.
id use one
Dont step on it
if its possible, it'd be a great idea. though i think companies make a lot more profit with people just trading their entire phones for new ones so i dont think theyd appreciate this very much
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42145550]if its possible, it'd be a great idea. though i think companies make a lot more profit with people just trading their entire phones for new ones so i dont think theyd appreciate this very much[/QUOTE] Well it depends, they could make each block sold separately for replacements or upgrades. Come out with new types of blocks, bigger phoneblock for more blocks. etc.
I couldn't see it as being fully configurable, but I could definitely see it as having certain designated spaces on the board for different modules. Of course, some things, like the processor, would probably have to be built into the mainboard... But module-based computing isn't new (Apple did it with their Mac Pros, for instance), and there's no reason it couldn't work for a phone.
This would be freaking awesome.
i want this so bad but it will never happen
I don't think the current industry would appreciate this. Call me cynic, but I believe that "[I]a phone worth keeping[/I]" is exactly the opposite of what they want. Our habit of switching our whole phones out frequently works in favor of the industry. The big electronics firms don't have to care much about the electronic waste when they're producing when the throw-away-and-buy-new tradition that consumers have adopted creates a massive turnaround in the industry. The big companies working together on supporting a flexible platform is pretty unlikely to happen, too, I believe. Proprietary products ensure consumer loyalty.
And this is essentially why I like desktop computers. The same idea with a phone? Hell yes!
Now, I love the idea, but it seems like it'd have: -Overheating issues -Poor use of space (since each this has to have its own box, which takes up room) -Impossible design? (I'm not sure, but I'm fairly certain the base can't just accept any block anywhere, unless each spot was designated for only one thing (e.g., a camera block, a CPU block)
This is something I would love to have but i don't know if it would take off.
if it comes out I'm buying one
I dunno I feel like this could be very expensive. It seems like when other companies are involved, it'll be a razor/razor blade kind of deal, where the initial price is low but upgrades will cost an absolute bomb. Want a better camera, hand over £150 and you can have it? Plus there's limited space, so if that better camera takes up more space you suddenly need to buy several new parts because you've run out of space on the breadboard of the device.
Outstanding idea, but it would be an absolute nightmare to engineer the circuitry required to be able to swap out parts how/wherever you want.
The kind of engineering to just swap parts like that must be insane, considering the circuit would change as you modify the phone and it would constantly have to reroute connections. You would have to have a processor for the circuitry alone.
It's impossible to just throw electronic parts around like this. The phone would only work if each part had a predesignated location on the motherboard. Electronics aren't Lego blocks
I don't really want to call it impossible, it's just unfeasible. Like yeah, sure, you could make this phone and have all these magical blocks and shit, but it just doesn't make any business sense whatsoever. For people to be constantly switching out blocks, electronic stores would have to be stocked with them, and that would only happen if this phone gained more ground and popularity than the iPhone (super unlikely). I can't imagine that investors would be too keen on supplying mass amounts of phone parts to a phone that nobody uses. The idea is good, but they might just be moving a little too fast.
impressive
[QUOTE=geogree;42146622]I don't really want to call it impossible, it's just unfeasible. Like yeah, sure, you could make this phone and have all these magical blocks and shit, but it just doesn't make any business sense whatsoever. For people to be constantly switching out blocks, electronic stores would have to be stocked with them, and that would only happen if this phone gained more ground and popularity than the iPhone (super unlikely). I can't imagine that investors would be too keen on supplying mass amounts of phone parts to a phone that nobody uses. The idea is good, but they might just be moving a little too fast.[/QUOTE] why? this is basically like building your own computer, just extremely simplified so anyone can do it. this is the most economically sustainable and efficient thing that could ever happen to phones.
Why exactly would it be as impossible as people are saying i mean, cant you just make one of the 'layers' recognize the parts that are connected? that seems like it'd probably take a lot of development time and money but not even near impossible
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;42146648]why? this is basically like building your own computer, just extremely simplified so anyone can do it. this is the most economically sustainable and efficient thing that could ever happen to phones.[/QUOTE] It would be possible if every part had specific slots, but this seems to be anything goes. Which is insanely complex.
This looks interesting, but I doubt the industry will support it. Sure it may be possible, but major phone companies make millions by launching a new phone every year or so and making consumers having to buy an expensive new product, rather than a new part. If this works [I]and[/I] the companies agree on using it, there would most likely be some sort of evil milking scheme like what RyanAir does; "sure you can have a cheap plane ticket, but anything other than having a seat on the plane will cost you extra". They'll sell you the frame cheap, heck maybe even give it out almost for free or for 2$ just to make you have the thing, then the parts will go for ridiculous prices.
From an engineer point of view, this is ridiculously hard to pull off correctly, so ridiculous I would be very very surprised to see this anytime in the future. The comparison with computers simply doesn't work because it is still quite different, I can't insert my GPU in the audio slot can I? But even ignoring that, there are so many reasons that this could turn to be a bad idea, starting with the fact that mobile technologies is one of the fastest moving technologies of our times. And the standards change so fast, it's not just an upgrade in clock speed or memory, it's a lot more complex than that. This piece of tech would be behind everything before even making itself useful.
But if I wanted a bigger battery or camera or whatever wouldn't I need to replace every single block on my phone in order to make everything fit? So I might as well just buy a new phone.
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