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[QUOTE]Al Jazeera America may be shutting off the lights permanently soon, but that doesn’t mean reporters like David Shuster aren’t continuing to go about their business until the final gun sounds. Wednesday night, Shuster just reported on the 7:00 PM EST AJAM nightly newscast that the FBI has completed its examination of Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton‘s private email server after an investigation lasting nearly one year. The former Fox News and MSNBC reporter states investigators are nearing a verdict whether to seek criminal charges against the Former Secretary of State, Senator and First Lady.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.mediaite.com/online/ajams-shuster-exclusive-hillary-clinton-to-be-interviewed-by-fbi-director-comey-in-mere-days/[/url]
Here's hoping the verdict is fair. I kinda hope she did do something naughty, but eh, if she didn't do anything illegal she should be cleared of all charges/allegations.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50037600]Here's hoping the verdict is fair. I kinda hope she did do something naughty, but eh, if she didn't do anything illegal she should be cleared of all charges/allegations.[/QUOTE] Watch her be found not guilty, causing a flood of raging babies who can't deal with the Big Evil [I]CLINTON[/I] actually being innocent
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50037608]Watch her be found not guilty, causing a flood of raging babies who can't deal with the Big Evil [I]CLINTON[/I] actually being innocent[/QUOTE] Just because she might be legally innocent doesn't mean that what she did was in any way okay.
Either verdict won't change my opinion on her.
It will be just so delicious if she gets charged and this kills her ratings.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50037608]Watch her be found not guilty, causing a flood of raging babies who can't deal with the Big Evil [I]CLINTON[/I] actually being innocent[/QUOTE] She has sent classified information through email, while saying herself to remove the header for classified information to bypass it being classified. And thats 1 instance. Maybe realize Clinton is shit lol, even if she does circlejerk to your views, she certainly isnt for you.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50037653]It will be just so delicious if she gets charged and this kills her ratings.[/QUOTE] If she gets charged she'll likely be barred from the race outright.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50037608]Watch her be found not guilty, causing a flood of raging babies who can't deal with the Big Evil [I]CLINTON[/I] actually being innocent[/QUOTE] You do realize there's 100% valid reasons to dislike her and prominent reasons would be that she committed a crime that would get anyone else locked away for treason You can trot out the mysoginy all you want it's not the reason though
She will buy her way out, Clinton is untouchable and above us commoners. President Clinton is owed to her, whether we want her or not.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;50037817]She will buy her way out, Clinton is untouchable and above us commoners. President Clinton is owed to her, whether we want her or not.[/QUOTE] That's what I thought initially, However; She screwed up on her emails, and the FBI does not like what she did in one email.
[QUOTE=Vitalogy;50037630]Just because she might be legally innocent doesn't mean that what she did was in any way okay.[/QUOTE] No but then again we have a Congress that thinks silicon valley can just make an app for magically altering the rules of math and prime numbers if they put their minds to it. The fact that someone in a prominent government position seemingly knows nothing about cybersecurity doesn't shock me, it just pisses me off that theyve spun the narrative as if she were a criminal instead of focusing on how much ducktape holds our software infrastructure together
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50037608]Watch her be found not guilty, causing a flood of raging babies who can't deal with the Big Evil [I]CLINTON[/I] actually being innocent[/QUOTE] She's literally not, like 100% definitively not. She most certainly broke a whole shitload of serious laws. Whether she gets found innocent by a loophole is irrelevant, she did the deed.
While I'm not interested in her being charged (I'm imagining she will at worst be fined, idk the kind of punishments at the federal level), I'm more interested in seeing if the media covers this at all.
[QUOTE=Cows Rule;50038022]While I'm not interested in her being charged (I'm imagining she will at worst be fined, idk the kind of punishments at the federal level), I'm more interested in seeing if the media covers this at all.[/QUOTE] as soon as she is near charged, expect the media to pick it up.
[QUOTE=Cows Rule;50038022]While I'm not interested in her being charged (I'm imagining she will at worst be fined, idk the kind of punishments at the federal level), I'm more interested in seeing if the media covers this at all.[/QUOTE] Pro-clinton media will probably try to avoid it or spin it as a anti-clinton propaganda until it starts actually affecting her campaign in force, and then they'll probably start spewing out tons of damage control. Other media will just roll with it as it happens.
I mean, she 100% broke laws. The question is what laws and whether she will actually be prosecuted.
For a quick overview she possibly broke these laws with little doubt [quote=NPR]The Federal Records Act requires agencies hold onto official communications, including all work-related emails, and government employees cannot destroy or remove relevant records. FOIA is designed to "improve public access to agency records and information." The NARA regulations dictate how records should be created and maintained. They stress that materials must be maintained "by the agency," that they should be "readily found" and that the records must "make possible a proper scrutiny by the Congress." Section 1924 of Title 18 has to do with deletion and retention of classified documents. "Knowingly" removing or housing classified information at an "unauthorized location" is subject to a fine or a year in prison.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;50038077]For a quick overview she possibly broke these laws with little doubt[/QUOTE] The burden is on the government to show beyond a reasonable doubt that she knowingly moved classified emails to an unauthorized location for retention. Also not a felony, move along people
My guess is that she won't be prosecuted even if guilt is found. Possibly to go so far as Obama pardoning her. There's just too much for the Democrats (and the government at large) to lose for her to be prosecuted and charged. What would it show to the world if our Secretary of State was arrested like that, left and right politics aside?
There are too many political sensitivities to take into account. They wont prosecute her because it would seem a potential political-snub to the frontrunner.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50038270]My guess is that she won't be prosecuted even if guilt is found. Possibly to go so far as Obama pardoning her.[/QUOTE] Do you know how fucking BAD that would make Obama and the democrats look? That would be worse for the party than if she actually DID get prosecuted.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50038319]Do you know how fucking BAD that would make Obama and the democrats look? That would be worse for the party than if she actually DID get prosecuted.[/QUOTE] Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. And Obama has nothing to lose. Maybe it'll hurt a bit, but in the long run it'll be much better for the country as a whole, not just the Dems. This isn't just some random Congressman under scrutiny. This is a former Secretary of State and a former First Lady. There will be political fallout for this regardless of party affiliation and a total embarrassment for the US as a whole.
IMO, if the FBI recommends prosecution and they don't prosecute there will be hell to pay.
Why does everybody already seems to be a 100% sure that she has broken 'a ton of laws' isn't that what the research that isn't done yet is all about? How do you guys know? They haven't even pushed charges let alone made it to a court room prosecution
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50038332]Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. And Obama has nothing to lose. Maybe it'll hurt a bit, but in the long run it'll be much better for the country as a whole, not just the Dems. This isn't just some random Congressman under scrutiny. This is a former Secretary of State and a former First Lady. There will be political fallout for this regardless of party affiliation and a total embarrassment for the US as a whole.[/QUOTE] If she gets pardoned a good half of the country will lose their shit Republicans hate her with a passion
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50038332]Maybe it'll hurt a bit, but in the long run it'll be much better for the country as a whole, not just the Dems. This isn't just some random Congressman under scrutiny. This is a former Secretary of State and a former First Lady. There will be political fallout for this regardless of party affiliation and a total embarrassment for the US as a whole.[/QUOTE] No it won't. How in the hell does that do better for the country to say, "Whatever, do what you want, you're a big name politician so you can get away with serious stuff." [editline]31st March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Cold;50038346]Why does everybody already seems to be a 100% sure that she has broken 'a ton of laws' isn't that what the research that isn't done yet is all about? How do you guys know? Pretty sure that's something a judge in a court decides.[/QUOTE]Because we literally know she did send and store the fucking information. The entire problem.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50038353]No it won't. How in the hell does that do better for the country to say, "Whatever, do what you want, you're a big name politician so you can get away with serious stuff." [editline]31st March 2016[/editline] Because we literally know she did send and store the fucking information. The entire problem.[/QUOTE] "Trump will fuck everything up, so it's understandable" Unless the GOP somehow fuck him out of the nomination.
[QUOTE=sgman91;50038343]IMO, if the FBI recommends prosecution and they don't prosecute there will be hell to pay.[/QUOTE] Like what? Protests? Okay, waste your time standing in front of a building yelling, nothing will be done. Petitions? They'll be thrown in the trash after received. News reporting how bad it is? It'll pass as soon as the ratings for the story begin to drop. [editline]31st March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Jund;50038351]If she gets pardoned a good half of the country will lose their shit Republicans hate her with a passion[/QUOTE] And that's different from any other time, how? Republicans will hate her regardless of her allegations or prosecution.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50038390]Like what? Protests? Okay, waste your time standing in front of a building yelling, nothing will be done. Petitions? They'll be thrown in the trash after received. News reporting how bad it is? It'll pass as soon as the ratings for the story begin to drop..[/QUOTE] I'm thinking more political in nature. You'll have Bernie supporters who feel betrayed by the party who are protecting someone they see as a criminal shill, effectively stopping Bernie from winning, and you'll have the GOP hit the democrats very hard. It would just be an extremely clear case of what's wrong in politics sitting directly on the lap of the democratic party.
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