• Maine Senate approves repeal of ranked-choice voting
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[t]http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/06/22/Travel_Maine_Something_For_Everyone_52567.jpg-70d7e_c0-265-4116-2664_s885x516.jpg?4002c1c4963e658bf5f926e8511eb8b89b93e94e[/t] (Plus this isn't helping) [QUOTE]The Maine State Senate has approved a repeal of the ranked-choice voting law passed by voters last November. The Senate voted 21 to 13 to repeal the law that voters passed as a ballot initiative in 2016, the Portland Press Herald reported. The law has been a source of controversy since it was passed with the Maine Supreme Court ruling an advisory opinion earlier this year that the measure violated the state’s constitution. The advisory, however, was limited to the gubernatorial and legislative races in the general election.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/27/maine-senate-approves-repeal-of-ranked-choice-voti/"]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/27/maine-senate-approves-repeal-of-ranked-choice-voti/[/URL] RIP [possibly only] voting-reform attempt for Maine. [Maybe for while?]
I wonder why the people who have everything to lose from a proper voting mechanism would vote against that voting mechanism...
[QUOTE=geel9;52407952]I wonder why the people who have everything to lose from a proper voting mechanism would vote against that voting mechanism...[/QUOTE] Perhaps the biggest flaw in western democracy, the only people authorized to change the system are the people benefiting from the system. And these people operate on a level disconnected from American society, the system is now being used for the benefit of themselves and the wealthy. And we can't change it because see the first sentence.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52407970]Perhaps the biggest flaw in western democracy, the only people authorized to change the system are the people benefiting from the system. And these people operate on a level disconnected from American society, the system is now being used for the benefit of themselves and the wealthy. And we can't change it because see the first sentence.[/QUOTE] Honestly can't think of how this could possibly work without either starting a revolution or a huge grassroots operation.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52407970]Perhaps the biggest flaw in western democracy, the only people authorized to change the system are the people benefiting from the system. And these people operate on a level disconnected from American society, the system is now being used for the benefit of themselves and the wealthy. And we can't change it because see the first sentence.[/QUOTE] Frankly I think there should be a vote each year as to whether an elected official should keep their seat. Whether they're President, Mayor, Senator, Congressman, Governor, in state congress or senate, etc. They should have to truly work to keep their seat via working for those who they're supposed to govern.
I and the majority of Maine voted for voting reform and it PASSED. And the ones in charge can just kill it before it even lives. Talk about spitting in our faces.
[QUOTE=153x;52411958]I and the majority of Maine voted for voting reform and it PASSED. And the ones in charge can just kill it before it even lives. Talk about spitting in our faces.[/QUOTE] Don't just take it. Campaign to not vote for those that did this, no matter their other causes. When it's your voting power they're taking away, anything else can wait.
Wait, so the voters voted directly in favor of this, but then the people who are supposed to [I]represent[/I] them said no? Why are they allowed to directly defy the will of their constituents?
[QUOTE=IKTM;52414777]Wait, so the voters voted directly in favor of this, but then the people who are supposed to [I]represent[/I] them said no? Why are they allowed to directly defy the will of their constituents?[/QUOTE] It was found to violate the Maine state constitution, meaning the law can't go into effect unless a constitutional amendment is passed through the legislature and approved in a popular vote
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52411925]Frankly I think there should be a vote each year as to whether an elected official should keep their seat. Whether they're President, Mayor, Senator, Congressman, Governor, in state congress or senate, etc. They should have to truly work to keep their seat via working for those who they're supposed to govern.[/QUOTE] That might get the super-unpopular politicians out faster but it wouldn't change America's extremely high incumbency rate that benefits all the others.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52411925]Frankly I think there should be a vote each year as to whether an elected official should keep their seat. Whether they're President, Mayor, Senator, Congressman, Governor, in state congress or senate, etc. They should have to truly work to keep their seat via working for those who they're supposed to govern.[/QUOTE] Better sort out campaign finance first or else all politicians will literally have to suck and fuck their donors 24 hours a day and never think about stepping out of line for even a second
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