• University of Chicago cancels all Monday 11/30 classes over credible shooting threat
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[url]http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2015/11/29/monday-classes-and-activities-hyde-park-campus-canceled-due-threat[/url] [quote]The University was informed by FBI counterterrorism officials today (Sunday) that an unknown individual posted an online threat of gun violence against the University of Chicago, specifically mentioning “the campus quad” on Monday morning at 10 a.m. Based on the FBI’s assessment of this threat and recent tragic events at other campuses across the country, we have decided in consultation with federal and local law enforcement officials, to exercise caution by canceling all classes and activities on the Hyde Park campus through midnight on Monday. All non-medical faculty, students and non-essential staff are asked not to come to the Hyde Park campus on Monday, or to remain indoors as much as possible if they are on campus. Students in College Housing are asked to stay indoors and await direct communication from College Housing Staff.[/quote] That's some fucked up shit.
Was it on /b/? I bet it was on /b/
Get rid of the guns already, you obviously cant handle them.
[QUOTE=St33m;49213796]Get rid of the guns already, you obviously cant handle them.[/QUOTE] You can't just "get rid of the guns". Because one, we have far more guns than any other developed nation, and two it COMPLETELY ignores any sociological factors that may account for the motivation of individuals to engage in violent activity. Do firearms make killing people easier? Yes. Are they the reason people are killed? No. There is obviously some factor we haven't accounted for that is driving people to such activities. Be it unemployment, domestic violence, poverty, and/or a myriad of other factors. Just because you have a gun, does not mean you are a killer. Something compelled you to use violence, and that something is the problem that needs to be targeted.
Calling it. Nothing is or was going to happen.
[QUOTE=St33m;49213796]Get rid of the guns already, you obviously cant handle them.[/QUOTE] Blame the person not the tool. Besides guns are a part of American culture, you can't just ask us to remove the second amendment because of shit like this. I'd rather civilians like me having pistols in safe places to defend myself and my loved ones against criminals that go bump in the night, rather than open the doors to a lucrative illegal arms market in this nation that will only benefit the arms dealers and the criminals that don't give a shit for papers saying "no guns or else". All while we cower in our homes defenseless.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49213836]guns are a part of American culture[/QUOTE] that's an amazing culture
[QUOTE=Saturn V;49213845]that's an amazing culture[/QUOTE] Welcome to a country birthed from war.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;49213795]Was it on /b/? I bet it was on /b/[/QUOTE] It was. The FBI Counterterrorism, Internet Social Media taskforce was on it, and found the internet to be very credible in its data. They compared the hash sums, and they believe that this is the work of a crazed madman, who appears to be on methamphetamine, bath salts, and gasoline. The FBI has also advised all citizens of the United States of North America to remain in doors, far away from quads, tris and duels. As these objects where called "primitives" by one special agent.
[QUOTE=MIPS;49213833]Calling it. Nothing is or was going to happen.[/QUOTE] Better safe than sorry.
[QUOTE=MIPS;49213833]Calling it. Nothing is or was going to happen.[/QUOTE] Doesn't mean we should keep the school open just because. Either way this is still safe protocol and keeps the students and staff safe even if nothing happens.
[QUOTE=MIPS;49213833]Calling it. Nothing is or was going to happen.[/QUOTE] Didn't you say this in the Anonymous thread too? And this time it's from, I dunno, the FBI. An actual organization that is kinda credible.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;49213845]that's an amazing culture[/QUOTE] We were born fighting and we'll die fighting. We fought the natives, we fought our original King, we fought against nature to survive, we even fought each other! We're fighters, it's who we are. We can also be peacemakers and friendly, but we won't shy from fighting if we can afford it.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;49213851]Welcome to a country birthed from war.[/QUOTE] Uh, welcome to every tribe, nation and civilization since day 1?
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[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49213880]We were born fighting and we'll die fighting. We fought the natives, we fought our original King, we fought against nature to survive, we even fought each other! We're fighters, it's who we are. We can also be peacemakers and friendly, but we won't shy from fighting if we can afford it.[/QUOTE] Quit the patriotic act, every other country ever and their people have always fought for their independence, calm down.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49213887]Uh, welcome to every tribe, nation and civilization since day 1?[/QUOTE] Yeah, ours is a lot more recent though. America is a pretty young country compared to a lot of them [I][B]Europeans[/B][/I].
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49213887]Uh, welcome to every tribe, nation and civilization since day 1?[/QUOTE] This too. On an unrelated note and not to sound rude, but why is it I see more Scandinavians hating on America then other countries?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49213880]We were born fighting and we'll die fighting. We fought the natives, we fought our original King, we fought against nature to survive, we even fought each other! We're fighters, it's who we are. We can also be peacemakers and friendly, but we won't shy from fighting if we can afford it.[/QUOTE] aside from how corny that sounds you described pretty much every country in the world
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;49213899]Quit the patriotic act, every other country ever and their people have always fought for their independence, calm down.[/QUOTE] Because I say that in reference to my country doesn't mean it isn't the same for others. I don't have to state in bold how it applies to every other country, it should really go without saying. I'm just being specific because the person talkin smack about us was being specific to the USA. [QUOTE=Saturn V;49213923]aside from how corny that sounds you described pretty much every country in the world[/QUOTE] Refer to the post above this quote.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;49213901]Yeah, ours is a lot more recent though. America is a pretty young country compared to a lot of them [I][B]Europeans[/B][/I].[/QUOTE] Haha, what? Did you even pass a history class? Or are you simply thinking that NO nation rose, or fell, claimed independence, or suffered civil war after the 1860s? [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_date_of_formation"]Go ahead and read this, serve it as an appendix for many hours for you to rebuff on this argument[/URL] I wont take anything short of 35 pages for you to prove that you're somehow right. Also if that is not good enough for you, all conflicts in europe: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe#18th_century"]18th Century (1700-1799)[/URL] [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe#19th_century"]19th Century (1800-1899)[/URL] [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe#20th_century]20th Century (1900-1999)[/url] So, who was birthed out of peace again?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49213933]Because I say that in reference to my country doesn't mean it isn't the same for others. I don't have to state in bold how it applies to every other country, it should really go without saying. I'm just being specific because the person talkin smack about us was being specific to the USA. Refer to the post above this quote.[/QUOTE] You used "Because we're bred from war, bla bla bla" as an excuse for guns being part of your culture when you can find a lot of other countries that share the same fate but don't have it.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49213922]This too. On an unrelated note and not to sound rude, but why is it I see more Scandinavians hating on America then other countries?[/QUOTE] because unlike the gun-toting freedom loving corporate prison heaven that you guys are scandinavia is actually pretty chill and they probably dont understand your culture [editline]30th November 2015[/editline] on the other hand any country that allows its most likely presidental candidates to include a man who says that muslims should have a national database is far gone down the deep end but its not up to me to fix it
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;49213956]You used "Because we're bred from war, bla bla bla" as an excuse for guns being part of your culture when you can find a lot of other countries that share the same fate but don't have it.[/QUOTE] My point is, no one should be like "America shouldn't be allowed easy access to guns because X" as it's just really our thing. I don't know how to really put it other than that. Anime is Japan's thing, Martial Arts is Asia's thing, Modern Economics is Europe's thing. We just took the second because we deserve the right to properly arm ourselves in the case some legit nutjob becomes President and we, the people of the United States, decide to arm up in the case he tries to turn our Democracy into something more Fascist for example. Otherwise it's our right to own a simple handgun to deter burglars and general criminals from attempting any shit near your home. Oh shit this thread is turning into a gun debate already and I fell right into it :v:
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;49213956]You used "Because we're bred from war, bla bla bla" as an excuse for guns being part of your culture when you can find a lot of other countries that share the same fate but don't have it.[/QUOTE] guns are a huge part of american culture because of the frontier, where many people truly were on their own against the wilderness and everything in it
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49213990]My point is, no one should be like "America shouldn't be allowed easy access to guns because X" as it's just really our thing. I don't know how to really put it other than that. Anime is Japan's thing, Martial Arts is Asia's thing, Modern Economics is Europe's thing. We just took the second because we deserve the right to properly arm ourselves in the case some legit nutjob becomes President and we, the people of the United States, decide to arm up in the case he tries to turn our Democracy into something more Fascist for example. Otherwise it's our right to own a simple handgun to deter burglars and general criminals from attempting any shit near your home. Oh shit this thread is turning into a gun debate already and I fell right into it :v:[/QUOTE] since long has no democracy been an actual democracy, going by your logic everyone who loves democracy would be up in arms at this point but you're not because everyone loves the comfort of reality tv shows and cheap beer you elect people to make decisions for you, just like everywhere else in the world, stop deluding yourself
[QUOTE=vodka quest;49213981]gun-toting freedom loving corporate prison heaven [/QUOTE] That's quite judgemental of you. Like saying Chicago is "Chiraq" and it's a total warzone where guns go off all over the place outside of the Loop. ...Except it really doesn't and it's bullshit, crime is the same as anywhere else to be honest.
They are intended as a check against our own government. When designing the country, they realized that greed tends to corrupt nations over time. It is difficult to combat. They placed a number of systems in place, but they have, over time, been subverted under the guise of "freedom". We have guns because if we keep heading down the road of becoming a corporate prison haven and conventional political avenues to resolve these issues fail to function, we are going to need to spill a great deal of blood to resolve the issue. We are too large economically and militarily to allow our country to be run entirely by corporate interests. We see the damage it is causing on a local and global scale and it needs to be resolved. We are too dangerous to be allowed off the chain of the people. Leveraging our desire for freedom in order to pass laws that do precisely the opposite has harmed us immeasurably.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49214008]That's quite judgemental of you. Like saying Chicago is "Chiraq" and it's a total warzone where guns go off all over the place outside of the Loop. ...Except it really doesn't and it's bullshit, crime is the same as anywhere else to be honest.[/QUOTE] [quote]In 1995, the most recent year we can use for comparative purposes, the overall incarceration rate for the United States was 600 per 100,000 population, including local jails (but not juvenile institutions). Around the world, the only country with a higher rate was Russia, at 690 per 100,000. Several other countries of the former Soviet bloc also had high rates--270 per 100,000 in Estonia, for example, and 200 in Romania--as did, among others, Singapore (229) and South Africa (368). But most industrial democracies clustered far below us, at around 55 to 120 per 100,000, with a few--notably Japan, at 36--lower still. Spain and the United Kingdom, our closest "competitors" among the major nations of western Europe, imprison their citizens at a rate roughly one-sixth of ours; Holland and Scandinavia, about one-tenth.[/quote] [url]https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/c/currie-crime.html[/url]
[QUOTE=vodka quest;49213998]since long has no democracy been an actual democracy, going by your logic everyone who loves democracy would be up in arms at this point but you're not because everyone loves the comfort of reality tv shows and cheap beer [/QUOTE] Have you even been to America or talked with a American IRL? I've never been to Hungary, and while I admit I don't know what to expect in Hungary aside from Bela Lugosi and jokes about being Hungry, I wouldn't say such mean things about your nation.
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