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[QUOTE]In a 2012 interview on Newsnight, foul-mouthed LA rapper Tyler, The Creator told a churlish Stephen Smith that the point of his music was to ‘piss old white people off like you’. Now, the old white people at the Home Office seem to have proved him right, by banning the rapper – real name Tyler Okonma – from entering the UK for the next three to five years.
Okonma’s manager, Christian Clancy, wrote in a blog post that he received a letter stating that the rapper would not receive a visa because his work ‘encourages violence and intolerance of homosexuality’ and ‘fosters hatred with views that seek to provoke others to terrorist acts’. The kicker was that the decision, which has meant Okonma has had to cancel his upcoming UK tour, was based on music he released almost seven years ago, particularly on his breakthrough mixtape, Bastard.
In a typically vague statement, a Home Office spokesman said that ‘the Home Secretary has the power to exclude an individual if she considers that his or her presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good’. While we all relish the image of Theresa May watching ‘Yonkers’ aghast, it’s worth pointing out that this ban is not only an affront to artistic expression, but to common sense, too.
Apart from a juvenile fondness for the word ‘faggot’, which he uses in his songs to refer to anyone and everything, homophobia’s not really Tyler’s strong suit. He helped launch the career of Frank Ocean, modern R&B’s first openly gay male singer, who remains one of his close friends. And, while Tyler’s early raps were full of aggressive and graphic lyrics, the only person he’s ever directly incited violence against was Bruno Mars. Considering that was when the interminable ‘Grenade’ was ruling the airwaves, you can’t really blame him.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The ban provoked scorn across the internet. Despite the fact that tweeters and right-on bloggers are hardly champions of free speech, the story was just too perfect. ‘A Tory ministry censoring a rebellious young rapper? Typical’, they scoffed. Even the Guardian had a pop, calling it a ‘ham-fisted attempt to clamp down on popular culture’. But what these lukewarm defences of Tyler missed is that this was not a throwback to fusty, moralistic conservatism – it was an attempt at aping the new illiberal liberalism.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]What we have here is an upping of the stakes in the new intolerance. Not content with picketing offensive politicos and performers off of campuses, or Change.org-ing TV shows out of existence, feminists and illiberal liberals are trying to erect moral forcefields around entire nations, to keep the un-PC blasphemers out. What’s worse, these moral crusaders have found unlikely allies in the establishment – with even the Home Office now happy to outsource border-control work to the illiberal mob if it means catching some right-on shine.
Banning Tyler, The Creator has clearly backfired for the Home Office. On the whole, black rappers still get a pass from belligerent campaigners, mainly because they’re all terrified of being called racist. But this botched piece of PR still tells us something. Loudmouths like Tyler no longer need to piss old white people off to get in trouble, moralistic censorship is now the preserve of the ‘liberal’ youth.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/tomslater/2015/08/why-are-the-home-office-giving-in-to-illiberal-youth-by-banning-rappers-like-tyler-the-creator/[/url]
Oh the irony of this ban being criticised by the Guardian
He be baitin'
Banning a musician from a country because you don't like his work. That is absolutely shameful behavior from the Home Office IMO.
[quote]fosters hatred with views that seek to provoke others to terrorist acts’[/quote]
Why do I get the feeling that this will be the new 'communist sympathies'?
I haven't listened to him or odd futre since I was a teen, but holy shit this is fucking dumb
oh no
encouragement of homophobia, violence, and "terrorist acts"
aren't there plenty of artists that do this?
I can think of many more people that should be banned than this guy.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;48562459]oh no
encouragement of homophobia, violence, and "terrorist acts"
aren't there plenty of artists that do this?[/QUOTE]
How many british punk bands have advocated violence against police do you think?
Holy shit. This is pretty appaling. Not exactly Tylers biggest fan, but inciting terrorism? What the shit.
so tyler the creator is banned but hitler wasn't, that makes sense.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48562534]sneaky fucker, glad he's banned and off the streets[/QUOTE]
Run away! Subliminal Messaging~!:mindblown:
taking euphemisms in rap lyrics literally, lmao how are some people not past this yet
it's like the home office just discovered 2012
And nothing of value was lost?
[QUOTE=Shirky;48562593]And nothing of value was lost?[/QUOTE]
That's not the point. I've never even listened to him. The point is this censorship, originating from the 'illiberal left' has now spread into government.
That's pretty stupid
[QUOTE=AK'z;48562544]so tyler the creator is banned but hitler wasn't, that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
Did Hitler ever come to the UK? I can't find any decent sources that say another more than 'I guess maybe at some point'. Regardless that was a few years ago
So Canada is next, right? Can't let such a violent, dangerous rapper like him into any part of the Commonwealth.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;48562494]Holy shit. This is pretty appaling. Not exactly Tylers biggest fan, but inciting terrorism? What the shit.[/QUOTE]
There were cases years ago where he encouraged the crowd to fight the security officers and a huge controversy when he started a small riot and got arrested.
That said, the UK is way late to this. His new album doesn't have any of the offensive lyrical content and he's admitted that his riot shit was stupid and he hasn't done it since like 2011-2012. Banning him from the country is their loss, anyways.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;48562769]Banning him from the country is their loss, anyways.[/QUOTE]
Doubtful.
[QUOTE=Lium;48562810]Doubtful.[/QUOTE]
He's a popular artist and popular artists sell tickets that help the local economy. Banning Tyler the Creator from the country and then letting Jimmy Carr tour the country saying things significantly more offensive than anything Tyler's said is absurd.
"I don't like his music therefore it's a good thing he's been banned for nothing"
Christ, you people
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;48562604]That's not the point. I've never even listened to him. The point is this censorship, originating from the 'illiberal left' has now spread into government.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to get into a big political debate but this sort of musical censorship is as equally if not mroe in line with the current conservative party as it would be with an illiberal left
[QUOTE=massaki;48562935]"I don't like his music therefore it's a good thing he's been banned for nothing"
Christ, you people[/QUOTE]
There is literally one post that would insist that. Grow up.
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he has the look of hate and violence
truly a threat to society
he must be banned from everywhere
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;48563009]I don't want to get into a big political debate but this sort of musical censorship is as equally if not mroe in line with the current conservative party as it would be with an illiberal left[/QUOTE]
Why not? This is SH.
They haven't really been bothering for years with doing this moralistic, protect the public bullshit. They have been emboldened and encouraged by the pro-censorship behaviour of the illiberal left. Without them this sort of censorship I reckon would basically not exist in the UK.
[QUOTE=sparky28000;48563014]There is literally one post that would insist that. Grow up.[/quote]
That's one too many.
Fuck my country I'm moving to chillie
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;48563051]Why not? This is SH.
They haven't really been bothering for years with doing this moralistic, protect the public bullshit. They have been emboldened and encouraged by the pro-censorship behaviour of the illiberal left. Without them this sort of censorship I reckon would basically not exist in the UK.[/QUOTE]
I just feel like if they really gave a shit about the extreme leftists they wouldn't have taken the controversial actions they have regarding the DWP and benefits, as well as the approaches they've taken to immigration and the EU etc. I think it's a happy coincidence and nothing more. It's far more likely that they are effecting these changes as they are aware they may not stand the best chance of winning next time regardless.
Also I don't want to get into it because I don't want to be sat here all night typing I gots to get up in the morning gosh darn
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;48562459]oh no
encouragement of homophobia, violence, and "terrorist acts"
aren't there plenty of artists that do this?[/QUOTE]
Plenty, we should ban those too.
Seriously what the fuck, Home Office should take a long hard look at themselves and just close their eyes and walk away, and let some people with common sense in.
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