Rising Red Tide: China Encircles U.S. by Sailing Warships In American Waters, Arming Neighbors
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[QUOTE]China has been quietly taking steps to encircle the United States by arming western hemisphere states, seeking closer military, economic, and diplomatic ties to U.S. neighbors, and sailing warships into U.S. maritime zones.
The strategy is a Chinese version of what Beijing has charged is a U.S. strategy designed to encircle and “contain” China. It is also directed at countering the Obama administration’s new strategy called the pivot to Asia. The pivot calls for closer economic, diplomatic, and military ties to Asian states that are increasingly concerned about Chinese encroachment throughout that region.
“The Chinese are deftly parrying our ‘Pivot to the Pacific’ with their own elegant countermoves,” said John Tkacik, a former State Department Asia hand. Chinese President Xi Jinping is expected to question President Barack Obama about the U.S. pivot [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/3/obama-urged-to-punch-china/"]during the summit meeting[/URL] set to begin Friday afternoon in California.
Chinese state-run media have denounced the new U.S. policy as an effort to “contain” China and limit its growing power. The Chinese strategy is highlighted by Xi’s current visit to Trinidad, Costa Rica, and Mexico where he announced major loans of hundreds of millions of dollars that analysts say is part of buying influence in the hemisphere.
U.S. officials say the visit to the region has several objectives, including seeking to bolster Chinese arms sales to the region amid efforts by Russian arms dealers to steal market share.
States including Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Mexico recently purchased Chinese arms but are said to be unhappy with the arms’ low quality. For example, Chinese YLC radar sold to Ecuador in 2009 did not work properly and sales of Chinese tanks to Peru also ran into quality problems. Both states are now looking to buy Russian weaponry, a U.S. official said.Venezuela, a key oil-producing U.S. adversary, announced Thursday that China agreed to a $4 billion loan for oil development.
And in Mexico this week, Xi announced China is extending a $1 billion line of credit for oil development and pledged another $1 billion trade deal.A joint Mexico-China statement said Mexico pledged not to interfere in China’s affairs on Taiwan and Tibet, a reference to the previous government of Mexican President Felipe Calderon who in 2011 invited exiled Tibetan leader the Dalia Lama, a move that angered Beijing.
U.S. officials say there are concerns that the pro-Beijing shift by the current government of Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto, who visited China in April, will be exploited by China for such political goals, and could be used to generate support for China’s claims to Japan’s Senkaku Islands.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/china-encircles-us-arming-western-hemisphere-state/[/URL]
what would this mean for us?
so china is going to make mexico less of a shitty country?
why not
anyong
[QUOTE=JXZ;40938606]what would this mean for us?[/QUOTE]
Americas going into relative decline, but it's not a problem. Living standards will continue to improve, the Chinese people will report better lives and increased freedoms, and American prestige will be hurt because a bunch of Chinese (nominally) communists managed to beat them. Life in the West will still be fine.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40938634]Americas going into relative decline, but it's not a problem. Living standards will continue to improve, the Chinese people will report better lives and increased freedoms, and American prestige will be hurt because a bunch of Chinese (nominally) communists managed to beat them. Life in the West will still be fine.[/QUOTE]
You make that sound as if the war between Socialism and Capitalism is still being waged :v:
[QUOTE=The mouse;40938710]You make that sound as if the war between Socialism and Capitalism is still being waged :v:[/QUOTE]
The Chinese are pretty much integrated into capitalism now, no going back.
It's true, China's been arming Canada to the teeth, just not our government. China makes some of the cheapest and most reliable knockoffs of famous American guns.
You guys are going down
I thought you meant this crap
[t]http://serc.carleton.edu/images/microbelife/topics/red_tide_genera.v3.jpg[/t]
Rising red tide levels would be awful
That's the same thing I do in Civ5 when I'm preparing to invade
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40938778]It's true, China's been arming Canada to the teeth, just not our government. China makes some of the cheapest and most reliable knockoffs of famous American guns.[/QUOTE]
Don't you guys use the Diemaco C7 Rifle?
I don't think China wants to do that, this won't end well if our legislature gets pissed.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;40939018]I don't think China wants to do that, this won't end well if our legislature gets pissed.[/QUOTE]
Sailing in our waters is dick waiving.
The red dragon awakens!
[quote]States including Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Mexico recently purchased Chinese arms but are said to be unhappy with the arms’ low quality. For example, Chinese YLC radar sold to Ecuador in 2009 did not work properly and sales of Chinese tanks to Peru also ran into quality problems. Both states are now looking to buy Russian weaponry, a U.S. official said.[/quote]
Chinese-quality products!
[QUOTE=Valdor;40938618]so china is going to make mexico less of a shitty country?
why not[/QUOTE]
A strong, stable and safe Mexico is not in an American interest. There is a reason that the US supplies cartels with weapons and not to be a conspiracy type but also possibly a reason for them to keep up the war on drugs.
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I think we're safe guys
[QUOTE=Onion836;40939374][IMG]http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/pr37-1721_files/image002.jpg[/IMG]
I think we're safe guys[/QUOTE]
y dont we have mitilary bases in our country
[QUOTE=Roof;40939387]y dont we have mitilary bases in our country[/QUOTE]
In America every residence is a military base.
[QUOTE=Jakobi;40939067]Sailing in our waters is dick waiving.[/QUOTE]
So is bombing the Middle East.
[QUOTE=Roof;40939387]y dont we have mitilary bases in our country[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3gns5jK.gif[/img]
"I'll wreak u bruh I swear on Mao's life mate" -China
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[QUOTE=OvB;40939504][img]http://i.imgur.com/3gns5jK.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Holy shit america needs some accutane
so when are the reds gonna invade anchorage?
The Chinese president is actually in the US at this moment.
[QUOTE=Onion836;40939374][IMG]http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/pr37-1721_files/image002.jpg[/IMG]
I think we're safe guys[/QUOTE]
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???
[QUOTE=Roof;40939387]y dont we have mitilary bases in our country[/QUOTE]
It's probably just that it's redundant to say that the US military is in the US.
We ought to just have a good ol' proxy war in Korea again
:v:
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40938996]Don't you guys use the Diemaco C7 Rifle?[/QUOTE]
Note how I said they're arming us, but not our government. Yes the army uses the C7/C8, I mean I can buy a Chinese knockoff of an American gun for as low as $300, and it works just as well as its more expensive American counterpart. They're selling Canadians arms, not Canada.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40938634]Americas going into relative decline, but it's not a problem. Living standards will continue to improve, the Chinese people will report better lives and increased freedoms, and American prestige will be hurt because a bunch of Chinese (nominally) communists managed to beat them. Life in the West will still be fine.[/QUOTE]
I don't even see how you can say that from this. Were the ones growing and Chinas the one who's bubble is about to pop :v:
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[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40939922]Note how I said they're arming us, but not our government. Yes the army uses the C7/C8, I mean I can buy a Chinese knockoff of an American gun for as low as $300, and it works just as well as its more expensive American counterpart. They're selling Canadians arms, not Canada.[/QUOTE]
And isn't the C7 just a licensed version of the M16 made in Canada by Canadian companies?
Not like what China does and just fucking copies it with lower quality materials.
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Made by Canadian subsidiaries of American Companies :v:
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