• Poorest students to get year of free tuition, UK.
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[img]http://www.trinity.bexley.sch.uk/_files/images/_44192574_logo416.jpg[/img] [release][b]Thousands of university students from poorer backgrounds could have their tuition fees paid for up to two years under new government proposals.[/b] Universities minister David Willetts said up to 18,000 students could get support for their fees from a new fund. This and other safeguards should "absolutely" allay student concerns about the fees rise, Mr Willetts said. But ahead of Thursday's vote to raise fees to £9,000, student leaders said the plan would have "limited impact". As MPs prepare for that vote - on whether to back government proposals to increase the cap in fees from £3,375 to £9,000 from 2013 - Lib Dem sources said it was still unclear which way their 57 MPs would go. The party has come under intense pressure from students after promising to abolish tuition fees in its election manifesto. Leader Nick Clegg and all other Lib Dem MPs signed a pre-election pledge to vote against any rise. Mr Clegg's chief political adviser told the BBC that the party would announce its intentions following a meeting early next week. 'Extra assistance' Cash for the new fund - set aside for pupils who were eligible for free schools meals - would come from the £150m National Scholarship Programme already announced. Under the plans, universities which charge more than £6,000 a year could be forced to pay such students' fees for a second year. Ministers believe up to 18,000 students could ultimately benefit, significantly increasing the numbers of children from poorer families going on to higher education. Free school meals are available to families claiming certain benefits and are given to around 80,000 pupils in each school year. Mr Willetts told BBC One's Politics Show the plan was to allow universities to offer "extra assistance" to pupils from poorer backgrounds by "relieving their fees cost". Before Thursday's vote, he said the coalition would be emphasising the "very good features" of its student finance package, such as the fact there would be no upfront charges and the salary level at which graduates will have to start repaying will rise from £15,000 to £21,000. "There is absolutely no reason why students that are worried should have any genuine concerns about the proposals," he added. Ministers will meet student representatives next week to consult them on the plans, which have strong backing from Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. 'Huge debt' But National Union of Students president Aaron Porter said the plans "won't get very far". "Despite the trebling of tuition fees, what we have seen is no further detail on the requirements from universities to put money into support for students from the poorest backgrounds. "We suspect this will have a very limited impact at a time when debt will be so huge for those leaving our universities." Despite efforts to bring them on board, more than 10 Lib Dem MPs have suggested they will vote against the plan while some others are considering abstaining. Amid reports of disagreements between senior Lib Dems over the issue, MP Norman Lamb - Nick Clegg's political adviser - acknowledged the issue was "messy" and "difficult" but had to be considered through the party's normal decision-making procedures. "Nick Clegg is keen to try and get a consensus within the parliamentary party," he told the Politics Show. While it was his "strong preference" to vote for the proposals, Mr Lamb stressed that it was "important to keep the party united." However, the proposals - which he said would see the 25% poorest students pay less than now - would be "an engine for social mobility". "He [Nick Clegg] wants to get everyone on side and supporting a policy which, I agree and he agrees, is absolutely in accordance with Lib Dem values," he told the Politics Show. Mr Clegg earlier told the Independent on Sunday that he believed in a policy which was "brave and bold" and would "lower barriers of entry to university." Labour leader Ed Miliband told the BBC he wanted Lib Dem MPs to vote against the measure. "I think it's becoming clear that these proposals are an assault on social mobility in this country, on people's chance to get on, as students see themselves potentially landed with thirty, forty, fifty thousand pounds worth of debt," he said. "That's why the government should think again. That's why Lib Dem MPs, in particular, should vote against these proposals on Thursday" However, senior figures within his own party have expressed concerns about Mr Miliband's alternative plan for a graduate tax, shadow chancellor Alan Johnson saying it may not be "workable". The proposed increase does not apply in Scotland nor for students resident in Wales, wherever they chose to go on to study in the UK.[/release] [release][b]SOURCE:[/b] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11920628[/url][/release] Good to see that those less fortunate but still very intelligent have the opportunity to get an education. Now if only I could get free tuition here in the states. :sigh:
This will stop the protests. Is good for the poor.
Thanks for screwing over the middle class
[QUOTE=spog;26515269]Thanks for screwing over the middle class[/QUOTE] Yeah, how dare we give free tuition to those who can barely afford to live and require food stamps to eat.
[QUOTE=spog;26515269]Thanks for screwing over the middle class[/QUOTE] I think the middle class is more likely to afford tuition than the poorer classes.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26515294]Yeah, how dare we give free tuition to those who can barely afford to live and require food stamps to eat.[/QUOTE] The fuck are food stamps?
[QUOTE=smurfy;26515771]The fuck are food stamps?[/QUOTE] They're pieces of paper you eat. Sort of like acid but they don't cause you to trip.
THIS ACT WILL RESTRAIN YOUR LIBERTY IN THE FUTURE AND TURN YOUR COUNTRY INTO AN ISLAMO-SOCIALIST STATE. - The average teabagger Anyone who opposes this idea have no idea how governments actually work. You pay taxes for a reason.
[QUOTE=Nahyan;26515968]THIS ACT WILL RESTRAIN YOUR LIBERTY IN THE FUTURE AND TURN YOUR COUNTRY INTO AN ISLAMO-SOCIALIST STATE. - The average teabagger Anyone who opposes this idea have no idea how governments actually work. You pay taxes for a reason.[/QUOTE] Did you guys miss the 'UK' part of the title or something
[QUOTE=smurfy;26516161]Did you guys miss the 'UK' part of the title or something[/QUOTE] Teabagger is british slang for people who drink american tea worst insult of all
[QUOTE=Nahyan;26515968]THIS ACT WILL RESTRAIN YOUR LIBERTY IN THE FUTURE AND TURN YOUR COUNTRY INTO AN ISLAMO-SOCIALIST STATE. - The average teabagger Anyone who opposes this idea have no idea how governments actually work. You pay taxes for a reason.[/QUOTE] I AM TOLERATE AND FAIR TO EVERYONE... FUCKING BACKWARD REDNECKS. -The average Liberal. Oh hay I can make stereotypical remarks to that have no place being in this thread whatsoever.
Tories: NO DAMNIT DON'T EMPOWER THE POOR PEOPLE SOON ENOUGH THEY'LL HAVE "IDEAS!"
Oh Yes! I hope I'm classed as getting it free, I want to go to Glamorgan University for Arts&Animation.
That's what you call love for your people.
This is good news for me. My family aren't exactly well off and I'm pretty sure I fall into this category (I've just got to get good results in my AS and later A-levels now). But I won't stop protesting with other students, cause I believe what the Conservatives have done is wrong.
Damn, I wish I was poor.
Wow. Now they can look like they're helping the poor while still denying them good degrees. Sure they can stay for a year or two but you need four years for a Bachelor's and there is no way they can afford two or three years on their own.
poor people should get a job instead of whining for free stuff
[QUOTE=smurfy;26515771]The fuck are food stamps?[/QUOTE] They are government issued slips of paper that act like currency for specific foods in grocery stores, like vegetables and cheap home dinners and stuff. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=bazyboy;26517159]poor people should get a job instead of whining for free stuff[/QUOTE] I know a guy who has had 4 jobs in the past year and two of which he was working at the same time. All of them let him go because they went out of business, hard to find a job when there isn't one, but most children don't understand the value of a dollar so I forgive you.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26517206]They are government issued slips of paper that act like currency for specific foods in grocery stores, like vegetables and cheap home dinners and stuff. [/QUOTE] I get these. sadly you cant use them at fast food places :( [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=bazyboy;26517159]poor people should get a job instead of whining for free stuff[/QUOTE] no use arguing with someone who says something like that [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr.Goodcat;26516493]I AM TOLERATE AND FAIR TO EVERYONE... FUCKING BACKWARD REDNECKS. -The average Liberal. Oh hay I can make stereotypical remarks to that have no place being in this thread whatsoever.[/QUOTE] calling people tolerate and fair isnt really an insult
[QUOTE=RBM11;26517051]Wow. Now they can look like they're helping the poor while still denying them good degrees. Sure they can stay for a year or two but you need four years for a Bachelor's and there is no way they can afford two or three years on their own.[/QUOTE] So they could take a program that only requires two years
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26515858]They're pieces of paper you eat. Sort of like acid but they don't cause you to trip.[/QUOTE] Hilariously ingenious.
[QUOTE=bazyboy;26517159]poor people should get a job instead of whining for free stuff[/QUOTE] Maybe if you rich people weren't such greedy fucks and stuff your monies in some foreign account, you can actually help contribute to the whole of the society.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26518079]So they could take a program that only requires two years[/QUOTE] Welding is one of these and you can make tons of money if you get hired at the right place. [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26518238]Maybe if you rich people weren't such greedy fucks and stuff your monies in some foreign account, you can actually help contribute to the whole of the society.[/QUOTE] He might not even be rich, he's probably some young kid who hasn't learned the value of a dollar yet.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26518304] He might not even be rich, he's probably some young kid who hasn't learned the value of a dollar yet.[/QUOTE] inb4 he says trust fund.
[QUOTE=bazyboy;26517159]poor people should get a job instead of whining for free stuff[/QUOTE] oh now i get it. the reason why my mother is poor is because she doesnt work because she has to take care of a mentally challenged daughter. oh wait a sec she did start working and yet we are still poor [editline]5th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=bazyboy;26517159]poor people should get a job instead of whining for free stuff[/QUOTE] oh now i get it. the reason why my mother is poor is because she doesnt work because she has to take care of a mentally challenged daughter. oh wait a sec she did start working and yet we are still poor
Tbh I think everyone should get free university education. Enlighten and educate all people, all ages, all races, all religions and most importantly all classes. It can only do the country good. I know realistically it could be hard to afford, but if we can do it for public schools we can figure something out for university.
[QUOTE=MR-X;26518764]Tbh I think everyone should get free university education. Enlighten and educate all people, all ages, all races, all religions and most importantly all classes. It can only do the country good. I know realistically it could be hard to afford, but if we can do it for public schools we can figure something out for university.[/QUOTE] Most western governments don't want their citizens to be educated
the amount of money used in the us war could have sent every high school kid to college
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26518800]Most western governments don't want their citizens to be educated[/QUOTE] Which is very sad
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