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DAMASCUS - Russian warships patrolling the eastern Mediterranean Sea have docked at Russia's naval supply facility in the Syrian port of Tartus, the private Addounia TV reported Saturday.Governor of Tartus Imad Naddaf received the ships' leaders and expressed appreciation to Russia's support for Syria, the report said.Russia's state-owned Itar-Tass news agency quoted a source from the Russian Navy as saying that "It is planned that the port of Tartus will be visited by a big anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet 'Admiral Chabanenko' and an escort ship 'Yaroslav Mudry'.""Our ships are supposed to stay in Syria for several days," the source said, without giving more details about the warships' mission in the country.The move is considered by many observers as an apparent show of Russia's support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad whose country has been gripped by a nearly 10-month bloody unrest.The Russian Navy, however, claimed the move was part of scheduled exercises and had no connection with the situation in Syria.The warships, led by "Admiral Kuznetsov," the country's only aircraft carrier, have started their patrol missions in the Northeast Atlantic and the Mediterranean Sea on December 6 to "ensure the security of the sea navigation and other Russian maritime economic activities," according to the Russian Navy.[/release]
[URL]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2012-01/07/content_14400339.htm[/URL]
Dont know what to think about this, but if it stops the violence in Syria, im okay with that.
Who are they supporting though, the rebels or the government?
[QUOTE=MajorMattem;34112891]Dont know what to think about this, but if it stops the violence in Syria, im okay with that.[/QUOTE]
It's not going to stop the violence. It's there to keep international forces out of the country.
[QUOTE=The mouse;34112911]Who are they supporting though, the rebels or the government?[/QUOTE]
The government.
[QUOTE=MajorMattem;34112891]Dont know what to think about this, but if it stops the violence in Syria, im okay with that.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they are there because of that, I think they are there so the west doesn't come in and fuck their ally
ninja'd!
Whadya' say Russia, another proxy war for old time's sake?
A russian carrier group should probably stop any international force that wants to liberate Syria
[QUOTE=Mingebox;34112992]Whadya' say Russia, another proxy war for old time's sake?[/QUOTE]
Those were horrible with horrible things done to people, proxy wars are bad and you should feel bad.
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[QUOTE=teh pirate;34114058][img]http://i.imgur.com/XUIE0.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I cant see shit
its russia
[QUOTE=The mouse;34112911]Who are they supporting though, the rebels or the government?[/QUOTE]
the gov't, which is a BAAAAAAAD idea
Russian ships dock in port?
The cold war is upon us ONCE AGAIN.
[QUOTE=Falchion;34114678]Russian ships dock in port?
The cold war is upon us ONCE AGAIN.[/QUOTE]
White blue red vs Red white blue? OH GOD
Fucking Russian government is full of left-over Cold War generals and bastards from the KGB.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;34115020]Fucking Russian government is full of left-over Cold War generals and bastards from the KGB.[/QUOTE]
Isn't the US the same?
[QUOTE=belgiumtoast;34115156]Isn't the US the same?[/QUOTE]
No? Why would we have former KGB agents as politicians?
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34115198]No? Why would we have former KGB agents as politicians?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure there are some cold war era CIA workers in politics by now.
[QUOTE=belgiumtoast;34115221]I'm sure there are some cold war era CIA workers in politics by now.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. US has a good deal of 'cold war' hold overs acting in the government still. Bush's administration with figures like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney with ties to the neocons of the 80s and its associated policies- to re-emerge some 20 years later- should say a lot. US isn't immune from this any more than any other country- people who've established themselves s in government bodies are going to around in some form or another.
As for this article- they knew Russia's ships were going to Tartus for sometime. It's not a surprise. Russia has expanded its port at Tartus significantly in the past 5 years- using the pretext of having to resupply and maintain ships on their way to the Gulf of Aden in anti-piracy operations. This move though is to remind the US sand others that any sort of operation aimed at regime change won't get any where with out the Russians being consulted- basically their reaction to being sidelined in Libya.
To be fair, it's not just Russia standing behind a shit regime. US has largely been mum on what's been going on in Bahrain, Yemen, and Egypt while continuing contracts to supply police and military in those countries even as they strike against protests there. Yes, they might not be having the same death tolls reported that Syria has- but it's oppression none the less. In the early stages of the Egyptian Revolution we saw some pictures of people showing tear gas canisters courtesy of the US.
[img]http://www.freewebs.com/sprav/US-tear-gas_Egypt_Cairo_January-28-2011_w-caption.jpg[/img]
And even later with the current military junta in the US.
[img]http://www.voltairenet.org/local/cache-vignettes/L400xH291/arton172014-45b72.gif[/img]
This is of course ignoring the more dangerous arms agreements.
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OK, now I understand the point you're making, but if it said Made in Taiwan, then what?
[QUOTE=belgiumtoast;34113766]A russian carrier group should probably stop any international force that wants to liberate Syria[/QUOTE]
Yai9ka? Is that you?
[QUOTE=Zambies!;34123077]OK, now I understand the point you're making, but if it said Made in Taiwan, then what?[/QUOTE]
Taiwan makes and sell weapons, and a foreign country buys them? Yeah, well, if you're living in a universe where Taiwan is a serious power. Weapons are not some fucking consumer goods.
Pics:
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A view of the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov in the Syrian city of Tartous on the Mediterranean sea January 8, 2012, in this handout photograph released by Syria's national news agency SANA.
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Naval personnel stand in front of the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov in the Syrian city of Tartous on the Mediterranean sea January 8, 2012, in this handout photograph released by Syria's national news agency SANA.
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Syria's Defense Minister General Dawood Rajiha (front, 3rd R) gestures as he visits the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov in the Syrian city of Tartous on the Mediterranean sea January 8, 2012, in this handout photograph released by Syria's national news agency SANA.
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Syria's Defense Minister General Dawood Rajiha (front, 3rd L) visits the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov in the Syrian city of Tartous on the Mediterranean sea January 8, 2012, in this handout photograph released by Syria's national news agency SANA.
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Syria's Defense Minister General Dawood Rajiha (front, 4th R) visits the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov in the Syrian city of Tartous on the Mediterranean sea January 8, 2012, in this handout photograph released by Syria's national news agency SANA.
Russia supports an evil dicatorship murdering its own people by the thousands and gets rated winner. Good job fp.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;34123077]OK, now I understand the point you're making, but if it said Made in Taiwan, then what?[/QUOTE]
Most weapons and police equipment, at least in large amounts, are usually produced by a smaller group of nations. Among these is the United States, Russia, China, and some other European countries that have enough weapons production to have enough left over for foreign sales.
The United States and Russia, and more recently China, have done their own manipulation and support of strongmen where it matches with their policy in the region. This unfortunately means a lot of innocent people get caught up in this mess. It's not as simple as either 'big bad Russia' deciding to support a dictator massacring innocent citizens from the US's perspective, or the Russian perspective where it's helping a long-time ally against 'terrorism' and civil war.
The way I see this is Russia is doing these things to assert that any sort of foreign intervention in Syria can not happen with out it involved in someway, it can not be kicked to the corner like it did in Libya. We got similar calls for intervention on Turkey's end- a NATO member- which says it needs to intervene to prevent a regional disaster.
I've visited a ex-Soviet Carrier before, it looks unsurprisingly similar to the Kuznetsov, even though it's much smaller.
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