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No thank you. I don't watch propaganda.
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No thank you. I don't watch propaganda.[/QUOTE]
if some dude in salt lake city had to go to RT to get media coverage what exactly do you think the other media outlets are? Not propaganda?
Its hard to tell whether than officer was grinning or what that expression was, but other than that, i thought they handled it well by not tazing the guy for being upset. 'Murica.
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No thank you. I don't watch propaganda.[/QUOTE]
First of all, watch the video and it's not propaganda obviously.
Second, RT like all sources should be looked into and their content judged based on what you know about their intentions. They actually show sometimes interesting content that is not bullshit.
That's pretty fucked up that they killed his dog and just left it there dead.
The officer that shot the dog probably acted on instinct/training and then immediately realized he fucked up.
The owner is going to win the case when he sues the officer but I feel bad for both parties.
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Smoot;50480580]That's pretty fucked up that they killed his dog and just left it there dead.[/QUOTE]
I know its bad but consider the alternative:
"What did you do with my dog?"
"We put him in the trash sir."
Had to stop watching at least 2mins in, the guy recording is one of them typical Americans who thinks he knows the law like the back of his hand and just makes honest police officers job a living hell.
He has a piss poor attitude, yes his dog was killed but his whole demeanor from the start was crap.
Oh this case. This was two years ago--
It's an unfortunate series of events where the police officer (trained in how to react to dogs) acted as instructed, and I don't think that it was wrong.
I think Kendall is an idiot because he was offered $10,000 in compensation, but refused it for whatever reason. And he's scum because he later backtracked on his principals asking for the money.
Kendall was too unforgiving and irrational despite being well-compensated under reasonable circumstances imo.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50480613]
I know its bad but consider the alternative:
"What did you do with my dog?"
"We put him in the trash sir."[/QUOTE]
"Sir we grilled him on your grill and served him with a side of mash and corn, he was delicious."
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;50480777]"Sir we grilled him on your grill and served him with a side of mash and corn, he was delicious."[/QUOTE]
"Where'd you get the mash and corn?"
"From your fridge."
[QUOTE=Naelstro] And he's scum for not standing to his principles. [/QUOTE]
He's "scum" for that? What the fuck man. I could understand being annoyed he sued for 1.5 million, but really?
He refused the money because he was advocating for police reform. He didn't want their money on principle. And the lawsuit was about making a statement, so he didn't want to settle.
Then the state found no wrongdoing, so he had to pay the legal fees without any compensation. Donations only go so far, and after all that why wouldn't he ask for the offered money.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50480867]He shouldve seen that coming when he first refused the money[/QUOTE]
Expecting people who were wronged to take settlement money and roll over doesn't help things in the long run.
If the choice was a quiet $10k or trying to set some sort of precedent to stop other people's pets from being shot I'd go with the latter too.
[QUOTE=The Commander;50480673]Had to stop watching at least 2mins in, the guy recording is one of them typical Americans who thinks he knows the law like the back of his hand and just makes honest police officers job a living hell.
He has a piss poor attitude, yes his dog was killed but his whole demeanor from the start was crap.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes I'm sure you'd be totally calm after your pet was shot by someone trespassing on your property.
[QUOTE=The Commander;50480673]Had to stop watching at least 2mins in, the guy recording is one of them typical Americans who thinks he knows the law like the back of his hand and just makes honest police officers job a living hell.
He has a piss poor attitude, yes his dog was killed but his whole demeanor from the start was crap.[/QUOTE]
no. the cops killed his dog for no reason. he has all the right to be PISSED.
[QUOTE=MenteR;50480980]no. the cops killed his dog for no reason. he has all the right to be PISSED.[/QUOTE]
Yep. They just walked down the street and said "hey let's kill some dude's dog today that'll be fun!" :downs:
[QUOTE=Apache249;50481006]Yep. They just walked down the street and said "hey let's kill some dude's dog today that'll be fun!" :downs:[/QUOTE]
I mean, I seem to end up on the side of the cops in most of the big controversies that pop up with them, but this seems pretty clear cut a very big fuck up.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50480613]The officer that shot the dog probably acted on instinct/training and then immediately realized he fucked up.
The owner is going to win the case when he sues the officer but I feel bad for both parties.
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
I know its bad but consider the alternative:
"What did you do with my dog?"
"We put him in the trash sir."[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I read that the man tried suing the officer for 1.5 mill but the cop was cleared and now the owner himself is facing legal charges.
I understand he's upset but he's getting mad at the wrong people. You can't really fault the cops who stuck around to take the report and none of them seemed to be overly an ass to him aside from when the guy gets violently angry at them (rightfully so but misdirected none the less)
imagine justifying killing someones dog for no real reason
[QUOTE=J!NX;50482087]imagine justifying killing someones dog for no real reason[/QUOTE]
No one really justified it in the video though, they just apologized and said they understand why he's upset. And I don't know why the cop shot the dog but I'm not sure I'd be so quick to assume there was really no reason for the cop to do it. For all we know he owns a pitbull and it's a nasty, aggresive dog. Not saying that's the case but none of us know what really happened except the cop unfortunately.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50482092]No one really justified it in the video though, they just apologized and said they understand why he's upset. And I don't know why the cop shot the dog but I'm not sure I'd be so quick to assume there was really no reason for the cop to do it. For all we know he owns a pitbull and it's a nasty, aggresive dog. Not saying that's the case but none of us know what really happened except the cop unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
fair enough but god damn, people act like he's wrong for being upset at all. like what the fuck :v:
[QUOTE=InfectedPotato;50482062]Unfortunately I read that the man tried suing the officer for 1.5 mill but the cop was cleared and now the owner himself is facing legal charges.[/QUOTE]
Well he accepted a $10k agreement but then sued for the $1.5m even though he agreed to drop charges.
He kind of fucked himself doing that.
Wasn't this one of the few cases where the cops weren't clearly justified in shooting the dog? So often you see people releasing medium sized or larger dogs, especially pits, and then acting surprised and hurt when their dog gets shot charging a cop.
The unfortunate truth of the matter is that dogs are treated as property. That means you are entitled to monetary compensation to replace the dog, and maybe handle cleanup of the old one, and little else. 10k for anything other than a show dog is an incredibly high settlement. For that level of money, he should have had to sign an NDA. Suing for millions on top of that is just stupid. It's absolutely without merit, especially if he already settled. Who the hell was the lawyer that signed off on that?
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;50480738]Oh this case. This was two years ago--
It's an unfortunate series of events where the police officer (trained in how to react to dogs) acted as instructed, and I don't think that it was wrong.
I think Kendall is an idiot because he was offered $10,000 in compensation, but refused it for whatever reason. And he's scum because he later backtracked on his principals asking for the money.
Kendall was too unforgiving and irrational despite being well-compensated under reasonable circumstances imo.[/QUOTE]
An unknown man broke into his house and shot his dog to death, because they were looking for a missing kid somewhere in the neighborhood. Then he drove off. Kendall has every right to be as unforgiving and irrational as he was, if not more.
If the police department's training, when confronting the legal occupant of a property they are breaking into, is to shoot it to death, then the department is badly fucked up and there needs to be a change in how they are told to handle this.
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If the police department's training, when confronting the legal occupant of a property they are breaking into, is to shoot it to death, then the department is badly fucked up and there needs to be a change in how they are told to handle this.[/QUOTE]
Legal occupant? It's a dog. The dog doesn't have it's name on the lease and I'm sure that the dog didn't walk up to the cop and politely ask the cop to leave his property. It's a dog.
My dog is the nicest dog around, never hurt anyone. But dogs get excited and bark and even get aggressive when people get on their home turf. Everyone knows that. What people don't know is if this is one of those 'act tough' dogs or a legit attack dog that may rip their throat out. Our dog got off the leash and chased an autistic girl off the school bus because that's what dogs do, they get excited and chase and bark things sometimes. Would my dog hurt the girl? Probably not. But if there was a cop standing between a defense autistic girl and a potentially dangerous animal charging her while she's running away what do you think the cops reaction would be?
[QUOTE=Ridge;50482278]An unknown man broke into his house and shot his dog to death, because they were looking for a missing kid somewhere in the neighborhood. Then he drove off. Kendall has every right to be as unforgiving and irrational as he was, if not more.
If the police department's training, when confronting the legal occupant of a property they are breaking into, is to shoot it to death, then the department is badly fucked up and there needs to be a change in how they are told to handle this.[/QUOTE]
The department only trains officers on how to treat violent animals, whatever situation they find violent animals in shouldn't waive the training.
I believe training officers differently on how to handle 100+ lbs dogs would probably end in a lot of dead officers.
If anything we need better disabling technology than literal bullets.
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;50482486]The department only trains officers on how to treat violent animals, whatever situation they find violent animals in shouldn't waive the training.
I believe training officers differently on how to handle 100+ lbs dogs would probably end in a lot of dead officers.
If anything we need better disabling technology than literal bullets.[/QUOTE]
Lets try using figurative bullets.
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I don't think I would've managed to keep my cool either if I had to stand in front of this. The other officer seemed to be much cooler.
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"I got a gun and my friends got guns. Your move buddy."
[editline]9th June 2016[/editline]
I'm pretty sure this incident is VERY old, though.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50482092]For all we know he owns a pitbull and it's a nasty, aggresive dog. Not saying that's the case but none of us know what really happened except the cop unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
We know in great detail the dog was not of a breed stereotyped to be violent. Weimaraner's are a breed known for being incredibly friendly, smart, and great with children.
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