[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19519839[/url]
[quote=BBC News][B]Teachers in England and Wales have voted to go on strike over what they are calling the "erosion" of their pay and working conditions.[/B]
The National Union of Teachers (NUT) said that 82.5% of the members who voted were in favour of walkouts. The turnout was 27%.
They will campaign alongside the other big teachers' union, the NASUWT, to safeguard their profession, they said.
The result raises the threat of disruption to schools later this term.
NUT general secretary Christine Blower said her union had been left with no option but to "protect the well-being" of her members.
[B]'Negative approach'[/B]
"Teachers are being undermined by a government whose almost daily criticisms and erosion of working conditions and pay, coming on top of previous attacks on pensions, are unacceptable," she said.
"This negative approach to the profession has to stop.
"No other profession comes under such continual scrutiny and no other profession has accountability systems based on so little trust."
The NUT took national strike action over pensions and pay in June of 2011, along with several other unions, closing thousands of schools. In November, teachers in London went on strike.
NASUWT union general secretary Chris Keates congratulated the NUT on the positive strike ballot.
[B]'Disappointed'[/B]
"This result is the reflection of two years of sustained assault from the government which has been deeply damaging to teacher morale, as well as to recruitment and retention," she said.
Both unions are due to set out their next steps on Monday, but both voted separately for further action at their annual conferences last Easter.
A Department for Education spokesman said: "We are very disappointed that a small minority of NUT members has voted this way.
"Industrial action would disrupt pupils' education, hugely inconvenience parents and will damage the profession's reputation in the eyes of the public."[/quote]
No date yet AFAIK
woo day off
[QUOTE=Noss;37576975]woo day off[/QUOTE]
Sad thing is this is the exact first thing that went through my head :v:
Fuck, I need every lesson possible for my A2s.
Still, if they're going to do it, I hope it works out for them; some of them are being screwed over.
Ah fuck I should have put England and Wales
Keep at it government! More days off wooo.
[QUOTE=smurfy;37577097]Ah fuck I should have put England and Wales[/QUOTE]
Oh, well then. No days off for me :pwn:
the UK's education needs a complete overhaul to be honest. for teachers it can be so competitive and intense, i couldn't possibly imagine being able to put in the kind of work and hours they do; and they get little to no reward for it in comparison to the wages they recieve.
i know there'll be the typical cynics coming in here going, "MORE STRIKES?? HOW MUCH MORE MONEY DO YOU NEED??" but at times, it can be hell on earth.
[QUOTE=smurfy;37577097]Ah fuck I should have put England and Wales[/QUOTE]
Really really surprised that it's not happening here in Scotland, when I was back at school the teachers got a tremendous amount of shit from students and a massive workload too for pretty average pay, and they keep getting pay cuts and freezes here as far as I'm aware.
Please be the Borderlands 2 release date, please be the Borderlands 2 release date...
How much are they making, on average?
My school always manages to continue which sucks
and sometimes teachers don't strike because they want the money
which I think is wrong, why are they not backing up their union like they should be
[QUOTE=cccritical;37579998]How much are they making, on average?[/QUOTE]
average pay is a worthless metric
Fuck sakes the minute I actually want + need to be at school for my GCSEs they decide to fuck off whilst in the earlier years when it was just bullshit they NEVER did this stuff.
The Tories have no idea on how to manage education. They complain about exams being too easy and that too many people are passing (god forbid) but they then have a hissy fit when we get the lowest A level grades in years.
Gah, I'm only at College 3 days a week. It better not be on one of those days because so far, I'm really enjoying it. I seriously cannot afford to miss a day...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Gove might just happen to casually be the devil.
I really do wonder how teachers can carry on with this sort of job. From what I have seen, it is maddening.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
Also, the tards in charge of exams fucked over my english grade by [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19507226]changing the grade boundries HALF WAY THROUGH MY FUCKING ENGLISH COURSE.[/url]
CUNTS
[QUOTE=Jackald;37581826]Call it bad luck or call it justice or whatever, but one thing's for certain. [B]I will never vote for the Conservatives. Not ever.[/B][/QUOTE]
The Conservatives have the right idea IMO but David Cameron picked the wrong people for the job, thus the UK is still being run by idiots.
I don't like Labour as they're backed up mostly by the union who if they don't get what they want they'll fuck everyone over if Labour is in power. They hand out "sweeties" consistently and then when they run out they don't know what to do. The Conservatives are independent from the union and therefore can simply say "fuck off" to a lot of the public sector, which is effectively what they did in the recent protests (not the London riots last year, earlier this year). People bitched and eventually they gave up and went home.
A lot of the public sector is full of lazy twats but there are people in there who are caught in the crossfire (such as teachers) who don't deserve this. I hope things get easier for your parents one day. The UK is a dumb place to be, I'm pretty sure of it.
However, I'm coming from someone who lives in the private sector side of things so I may have been told this without knowing how biased it really is. I hope not, I'm trying to get a grasp of politics myself and I'd like not to think that what I just said was all bullshit.
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;37582046']I really do wonder how teachers can carry on with this sort of job. From what I have seen, it is maddening.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
Also, the tards in charge of exams fucked over my english grade by [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19507226]changing the grade boundries HALF WAY THROUGH MY FUCKING ENGLISH COURSE.[/url]
CUNTS[/QUOTE]
Noone in my class passed thanks to this.
[I]noone.[/I]
I'm resitting it in January :(
[QUOTE=Jackald;37581539]Both my parents are teachers.
It's an absurd amount of planning, preparation, paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit that they have to do every night. They basically work from 9 till 9 every day and spend all their time off going into school and fixing displays, doing paperwork, more paperwork, SO MUCH FUCKING PAPERWORK.
And then every few months, once they've done all the paperwork, ofsted will tell them to "flow" or "be more organic with their lessons" or some fucking bullshit like that which is in no way helpful.
And to top it all off, the pay isn't even that great. Being a teacher is a fucking awful job and the only perk is that you get the summer holiday off. 6 weeks off. Because all of the other holidays are filled with catching up on all the planning that you can't physically do without going insane. Even christmas. It's horrible.
But i'm sure some idiot will go "DUDE MY TEACHER JUST USED TO DO W/E LOL BEING A TEACHER IS EASY", but you seriously don't see the sheer amount of work that goes into those lessons behind the scenes. Compared to that, actually teaching the kids is the easy part, the part you don't have to worry about, it's all the planning and shit that's hard.
And the worst part is my parents have been teachers for 30 years, they can do lessons in their sleep, they know the curriculum inside and out, they don't NEED to do any of the planning. Except when OFSTED comes to inspect, if they haven't done the planning they get sacked.
So you work horrible hours doing meaningless planning that nobody ever looks at or needs. And then to top it all off, the government fucks over your pension, the only good thing about being a teacher.
Well I fully support these strikes, and I might even go and protest with them, i'm sick of seeing my parents suffer under needless bureaucracy.[/QUOTE]
30 years they should be able to retire
I hope one day Educators in the U.S. grow some hair on thier balls, im tired of haveing to move all over the damn state and then watch my mother scrape by on what littile pay she can recive.
Oh god English Combined A level, I have no idea how I'm going to get the grade I need (B) considering last exam all I got was a barely scraped D. I really don't know where to go with this, thanks a lot Tories!
[QUOTE=Jimbojib;37580704]My school always manages to continue which sucks
and sometimes teachers don't strike because they want the money
which I think is wrong, why are they not backing up their union like they should be[/QUOTE]
There are different unions, sometimes one strikes while the others don't. The teachers that stay in will probably belong to the non-striking union. I always found it funny how teachers would never reveal which union they belonged to. If you're bored during a lesson mention it to them.
I don't know how well the educational system works in the UK but I do know that teachers deserve to be paid about as well as doctors do.
Last year I would have said yay to this, but now I'm doing A-Levels I don't want my lessons to be interrupted. Shit.
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