• Rick Santorum blames households with 'no dads' for England riots
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Transcript: [release]SANTORUM: Look at what's going on in England right now. A lot of commentators are writing, "Oh it's just a bunch of hooligans", but where do these hooligans come from? They came from neighborhoods where there were no dads. I guarantee you they came from neighborhoods where there were no dads. Where family's broken down because Britain's a secular society...[/release] You can see the rest here, in the video source here today: [URL]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44290948#44290948[/URL]
[quote]Where family's broken down because Britain's a secular society...[/quote] What does secularism have to do with single moms?
The fuck would he know about England
Fatherless homes don't help. Not neccesarily causing the riots. But alot of the time gangs fill the voids that fathers leave, the provide kids with a place of belonging and people to look up to. That's not to suggest people from homes with fathers won't join gangs or cause trouble.
Has he even been here?
[QUOTE=Doozle;31969413]Fatherless homes doesn't help. Not neccesarily causing the riots. But alot of the time gangs fill the voids that fathers leave, the provide kids with a place of belonging and people to look up to[/QUOTE] Yeah, saying fatherless homes is the reason why the riots started is very narrow minded.
Wait, so hes pissed that Britain is secular? What the FUCK?
[QUOTE=Zambies!;31969439]Wait, so hes pissed that Britain is secular? What the FUCK?[/QUOTE] This is a guy who's name is synonymous with a gross, sexual terminology based on comments fueled by zealotism. What do you expect :v:?
[QUOTE]Where family's broken down because Britain's a secular society...[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure England is technically not secular.
Maybe try fixing your own country before criticizing other countries that are otherwise fine, and take a good look at what not being secular could cause. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it in the constitution that theology is separate from government and every man has a right to follow whatever religion they wish? Bah.
Fuck you Santorum, I was brought up in a fatherless home and I didn't join a gang or go looting respectable business owners. Excuses man, just fucking excuses.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Urban_Dictionary-_santorum_1314450328382.png[/img] This sums this guy up pretty well.
what about households with twice the dads?
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;31969574]what about households with twice the dads?[/QUOTE] they led the riots
Yeah kids today need a dad with a big beard and a good slapping hand to put today's douche bag youth in place.
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;31969574]what about households with twice the dads?[/QUOTE] Two friends of mine were kinda step sisters cause they're mothers were partners. That house was full of kids and they fostered a couple of extras too. [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;31969598]Yeah kids today need a dad with a big beard and a good slapping hand to put today's douche bag youth in place.[/QUOTE] My dad has had a beard for all my life, he wasn't so good at slapping though. That was more my mum's territory.
yeah cause I was out there rioting, good one ricky boy
Uh, dumb sluts that can't put a lid on their vaginas and parents that only learnt to read from cereal boxes are the issue, not fatherless homes.
I've been fatherless for the majority of my life; I'm in college, soon to enroll into university?
[QUOTE=ijyt;31969720]Uh, dumb sluts that can't put a lid on their vaginas[/QUOTE] Not quite sure what to think about this.
Every time I see his name, all I can think of is that frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex.
I dunno what to say about this. On one hand the issue of the absent father is ever-present in our society, and people sometimes require a male authority figure as well as the mother, but on the other hand I grew up with Dad not living with Mum and I turned out fine. Though to be fair I did visit him often, even if I haven't visited in a while now i'm older... But even if your parents aren't married, so long as you grow up with both of them in your life things are still ok, although sometimes the single parent is some kind of superman/superwoman who can manage things fine and raise kids well. But most times, without a dad and only a single mum struggling to support her family, it can be hard to raise the kids right, although Mum did just fine with the three of us, even though her eldest (my big sister) decided to leave home after a domestic conflict, though I dunno if they really got along too well anyways (which is strange because Mum doesn't get along all that well with her mum either). Such a shame that some kids never even know about their dads other than that they up-and-left at some point, so they look for another father-figure to fill the empty spaces. But often they end up finding people as lost as themselves instead of a papa figure to look up to. And the real shame is that they never talk about it, keeping their loneliness and emptiness bottled-up and hidden behind a curtain of 'ardness and aspirations to be like their peers. Wanting to be like one's friends is completely natural, though, but it should be balanced out with a bit of fatherly guidance or mature mentoring every now and again. Sadly we never seek out the wise men and instead just huddle up with our peers to warm ourselves by the collective fire of brotherhood, that whilst seems to be warm enough to thaw the chills of empitness in our hearts, is not enough to give us true guidance and wisdom. To get more substance in your life, you sometimes need a wise mentor to help guide you, though sadly for some reason many kids don't really look to the obvious source of mentorship; the teacher (or tutor, if you're in college), since for some reason kids find the concept of teachers being anything other than boring people who try to force knowledge into your heads. They probably only seem like that until you learn more about them, and it helps to listen close to get the experience you need. But as George Michael once sang, "Don't stand so close to them". Keep your friends close, but not too close. You know what i'm talkin' 'bout here; the mentor being not so "safe" and taking advantage of your trust and confidence. But hey, life's a gamble, sometimes you gotta hope that your teacher won't ask you to stay behind after class, only to find out it's for more than just a chat, and end up experiencing some kinda traumatising "extra credit" scenario. That doesn't always happen, it's not that common, but it's still a possibility. The whole "more than mentor and student" dealio was rather common back in Ancient Greece, and was viewed as socially-acceptable, but this ain't Athens circa 5th century BCE anymore. Thankfully most people are more mature and "fidel" concerning mentoring and confidence nowadays, but there's still the chance for something to happen, no matter how small. So I guess all in all that amongst many things; as long as the Mum's compotent enough kids turn out fairly decent, but sometimes you need a strong mentoral figure in your life, a niche that most of the time should be filled by the father, but can also be filled by that of relatives like an uncle, with other mentors like a teacher being another option even with the potential risk associated with a mentor being less than safe. But hey, life is ALWAYS a gamble, and you gotta choose whether or not to take risks, and judge whether or not the potential risks are worth the benefits. Sometimes you get a great tutor, other times you're bent over the desk; sometimes your father is supportive, other times he's abusive, but in certain common cases he just isn't there. There are all sorts of variables abound, but the right attributes in the right person can make the right mentor, which sadly seems rare outside of the Republican Party's narrow idealised vision of family. Away from all that, Santorum should stop forcing his Functional Christian Family philosophy on us. Sure there are some benefits to having two parents present in your life, but the ideals don't have to be forced on us like that. A simple suggestion of "Having multiple parents helps" would've been good enough. Besides, his idea of more than one parent being good for a child is probably restricted to the biological mum and dad, instead of maybe having two of the same, or even other relatives helping raise the kids.
HEEEEEEY RIIIIIIICK AMERICA HAS GANGS EVEN IN JESUSLAND (TEXAS)
There was a British MP who said something similar to this, she said, "These people come from homes where the families have broken up, they have no one to look up to, have no prospects, may never have a job, and have nothing to lose"
Well if they've got nothing, then they should be given at least something, something that can benefit them yet can also be lost, thus giving them SOMETHING to lose instead of nothing to lose. There are few things more dangerous than someone who thinks they have nothing to lose.
aside from the whole secularism crap he does have a point
[QUOTE=Mon;31970085]aside from the whole secularism crap he does have a point[/QUOTE] families without dads are not going to lead to more violent-prone "hooligans" this, along with the nonsense of "this is because britain is morally broken down, it's a secular society" makes it pretty clear what he means.
Truth spoken; we're not broken down, we just don't chain ourselves to an imaginary absentee father-figure. It's better to take a chance with a mortal mentor than some ghost from the human machine. (Animus ex homo machina)
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31970205]families without dads are not going to lead to more violent-prone "hooligans" this, along with the nonsense of "this is because britain is morally broken down, it's a secular society" makes it pretty clear what he means.[/QUOTE] Split up families are a symptom, not a cause, and they happen for a million different reasons anyway
[QUOTE=matt.ant;31970011]There was a British MP who said something similar to this, she said, "These people come from homes where the families have broken up, they have no one to look up to, have no prospects, may never have a job, and have nothing to lose"[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that's an entirely different message. [editline]27th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Turnips5;31970256]Split up families are a symptom, not a cause, and they happen for a million different reasons anyway[/QUOTE] There's no point in linking it to any one thing, it's a multi-faceted problem.
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