• Duterte rated 'very good' in first 90 days: Philippines poll
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[b]Duterte rated 'very good' in first 90 days: Philippines poll[/b] Via [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-poll-idUSKCN12607Q]Reuters[/url] _________________________ [quote][img]http://i.imgur.com/EO1RT5e.jpg[/img] Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has been rated "very good" in an opinion poll on his first 90 days in office, which has been defined largely by his deadly war on drugs and vitriol against Western leaders. Only 11 percent of 1,200 Filipinos surveyed by the Social Weather Stations (SWS) agency said they were dissatisfied with his performance. That gave Duterte a net satisfaction rating of 64 percent, getting him off to a better start than predecessors Benigno Aquino, Joseph Estrada and Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, but short of the 66 percent achieved by Fidel Ramos in 1992. The rating, announced on Thursday, was calculated by deducting the 11 percent from the 76 percent of respondents who said they were satisfied with Duterte's presidency, then rounding it off. Thirteen percent were undecided. The SWS survey did not ask respondents to give a reason for the rating. It was conducted in face-to-face interviews held from Sept. 24-27, after Duterte had a spat with President Barack Obama over criticism of his anti-dugs campaign but before he said he was seeking new alliances with China and Russia. A survey by Pulse Asia, another polling agency, less than a month after he took office on June 30 said Duterte had a record 91 percent trust rating. The two polls are not comparable.[/quote] That's great news.
Remember this dude wants people to die for smoking a joint. Though I did read somewhere he was for medical, but still.
[QUOTE=Megadave;51159706]Remember this dude wants people to die for smoking a joint. Though I did read somewhere he was for medical, but still.[/QUOTE] Nope, that's wrong. It's just a smear campaign. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PFbhFMAmw[/media] [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] It's just so easy for western media to turn him into a third world caricature.
See that Hebrew behind him in the picture? Proof Jews control the world [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51159709]Nope, that's wrong. It's just a smear campaign. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PFbhFMAmw[/media] [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] It's just so easy for western media to turn him into a third world caricature.[/QUOTE] WTF? "Just 0.14% of people killed", that's fucking terrible. This video is a joke.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51159709]Nope, that's wrong. It's just a smear campaign. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PFbhFMAmw[/media] [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] It's just so easy for western media to turn him into a third world caricature.[/QUOTE] What has western media to gain from demonizing Duerte? Just curious, I hope everything works alright for Philippines.
To put that in perspective, the equivelant to .14% of population for the US is 446,600.
.14% is not exactly a small amount of the population that is possibly being killed extra judicially (despite the video).
[QUOTE=DogGunn;51159842].14% is not exactly a small amount of the population that is possibly being killed extra judicially (despite the video).[/QUOTE] In just 90 days of his presidency too. By that rate, 1% of Philippines population will be killed in 1 year of his reign.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;51159825]Yes, and? Not only was the video referring to the percentage of arrested/killed ratios, the population of the Phillipines is nowhere near that of the US. Thanks for the completely useless perceptive.[/QUOTE] my mistake, still a lot of dead people that shouldn't be.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51159709] It's just so easy for western media to turn him into a third world caricature.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say they turn him into a third-world caricature, he does that himself by acting as an authoritarian thug
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51159883].14 percent of drug related offenders, not the population Or maybe the entire 90 million does drugs, we dont know. Remember, 17% percent is an acceptable COLLATERAL casualty rate in drone strikes in war on terror, so why is .14% of OFFENDER deaths not? I wish there were none, but TBH this is a lot less than what I expected. [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] 1% of DRUG OFFENDERS Did anyone watch the video? [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] Where did the populationt hing come from[/QUOTE] The fact that pot smokers could be part of that number still pisses me off.
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;51159797]To put that in perspective, the equivelant to .14% of population for the US is 446,600.[/QUOTE] But the equivalent to .14% of the population of Mars is only 1.82 robots. That's not so bad, is it? [QUOTE=Megadave;51159940]The fact that pot smokers could be part of that number still pisses me off.[/QUOTE] Pot smoking is addictive, kills lungs, and is illegal. Get over it.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51159980]Pot smoking is addictive, causes lung cancer, and is illegal. Get over it.[/QUOTE] It's not chemically addictive, does give you lung problems but whether or not something is illegal doesn't have anything to do with whether people should be being murdered by crazed vigilantes lol.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51159980]But the equivalent to .14% of the population of Mars is only 1.82 robots. That's not so bad, is it? Pot smoking is addictive, kills lungs, and is illegal. Get over it.[/QUOTE] Do I need to remind you of legal substances such as Alcohol and Tobacco, both addictive and cause health damage? [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Trebgarta;51159816]Views, money An evil foreign president is much more interesting than what actually happens in the country with all details and viewpoints Omitting complex, booooring sides and waking emotions mean cash [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] Im not saying Duterte is smeared but it is understandable why, if he is[/QUOTE] so media being media: stupid and catering to majority which is stupid too
[QUOTE=Mattk50;51160002]It's not chemically addictive, does give you lung problems but whether or not something is illegal doesn't have anything to do with whether people should be being murdered by crazed vigilantes lol.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Fourier;51160006]Do I need to remind you of legal substances such as Alcohol and Tobacco, both addictive and cause health damage?[/QUOTE] I'm sure it's very convenient to ignore the legality of a drug in a thread about a guy who wants illegal drug users killed.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51160012]I'm sure it's very convenient to ignore the legality of a drug in a thread about a guy who wants illegal drug users killed.[/QUOTE] Im sure its convenient to shitpost about how people should get over the topic of the thread? The point of the post you replied to was that Marjuana doesn't really have negative effects on the same scale as cocaine, heroine, meth, etc. maybe he even uses it legally and doesn't like the idea that people in other countries are being killed over something considered medicine where he is.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51160012]I'm sure it's very convenient to ignore the legality of a drug in a thread about a guy who wants illegal drug users killed.[/QUOTE] Being a Jew was also illegal in Nazi Germany so really Hitler did nothing wrong.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51160012]I'm sure it's very convenient to ignore the legality of a drug in a thread about a guy who wants illegal drug users killed.[/QUOTE] Nope, he doesn't want illegal users killed, he wants them to be handled by law. He ordered policemen to not use force (gun) unless absolutely necesary.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51159980]But the equivalent to .14% of the population of Mars is only 1.82 robots. That's not so bad, is it? Pot smoking is addictive, kills lungs, and is illegal. Get over it.[/QUOTE] No, No, and not entirely. Compared to all the other shit we breathe in every day pot is a godsend. But on topic, it's still not a reason to kill people.
[QUOTE=Fourier;51160052]Nope, he doesn't want illegal users killed, he wants them to be handled by law. He ordered policemen to not use force (gun) unless absolutely necesary.[/QUOTE] It was just days ago that Duterte compared himself to Hitler, saying he wanted to kill three million drug users. [editline]6th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Chonch;51159980]But the equivalent to .14% of the population of Mars is only 1.82 robots. That's not so bad, is it? Pot smoking is addictive, kills lungs, and is illegal. Get over it.[/QUOTE] Marijuana is not addictive, can be vaporised or ingested with no long term health consequences, and is actually NOT illegal in at least a few US states now (and likely several more after November, as at least five more states are voting on it). The idea that somebody should be KILLED IN THE STREET for enjoying a harmless recreational drug, whose effects are even less severe than a few stiff drinks at a bar, and which is slowly becoming legal throughout the US, is disgusting.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51159980]But the equivalent to .14% of the population of Mars is only 1.82 robots. That's not so bad, is it? Pot smoking is addictive, kills lungs, and is illegal. Get over it.[/QUOTE] oh boy, here we go first, pot smoking addiction is only seen in a small subset of pot users, and only those who use it so heavily that endocannabinoid receptors in the brain end up getting used to it. I will admit there are some concerns with mental health issues, but most studies have established that any mental effects are primarily due to existing symptoms or existing vulnerabilities, which get pushed into prominence, so to speak, thanks to the use of weed. The primary issues here are if the user has a risk of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, where its use can trigger a schizophrenic episode or an episode of mania. Secondly, short to medium term use of pot, either by smoking, hotboxing, or vaping, does not cause lung cancer, and heavy, or regular long term use of pot, primarily only leads to COPD and the increased incidence of respiratory infections. A 2015 study has shown no lifetime risk of cannabis use causing lung cancer, but they admit more research is necessary. [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26433192[/URL] Thirdly, why is pot classed as illegal? it's because of this dumb war on drugs that swept everything under the same category, putting pot in the same class as worse drugs such as opioids, which is really something I find hilarious considering that alcohol and tobacco, both of which cause a huge burden on the healthcare system, are both legal drugs, albeit heavily taxed. Everything should be looked at on a case by case basis, and I'm happy that several states have voted to legalize it and decriminalize its possession. Being arrested for having a few grams of pot should not fall into the same category as having meth and crack on your person, or the tools for making it. What's worse is that this man Duterte is saying people should be killed for possessing a few grams of a relatively harmless recreational drug. Why should this be a capital offense for any reason?
[QUOTE=Chonch;51159980]Pot smoking is addictive, kills lungs, and is illegal. Get over it.[/QUOTE] woah it's like i stepped back into the early 2000's
The fact that he says "we'll kill drug addicts" rather than "we'll expand the possibilities of rehabilitation and open up the floor to reform" makes him kinda a shitty guy idk about you
[QUOTE=Fourier;51159792]What has western media to gain from demonizing Duerte? Just curious, I hope everything works alright for Philippines.[/QUOTE] He recently had some strong words for Obama and his administration. It's kinda logical that media began to smear him as a crazed maniac. Also, I might be wrong, but I think it was him, who was angry at US ambassador for "advices hw to rule his country". I just don't exactly remember.
this cunt's not actually inluding stoners with his to-be-killed druggies? right?
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51160173]this cunt's not actually inluding stoners with his to-be-killed druggies? right?[/QUOTE] IDK, but as far as I can tell people don't really smoke weed in the Philippines because it is too expensive, they do this weird drug which fucks them up
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51160176]IDK, but as far as I can tell people don't really smoke weed in the Philippines because it is too expensive, they do this weird drug which fucks them up[/QUOTE] can't beat finland's 20 eur per gram my friend who used to live in the philippines smoked plenty tho
Drug addicts are getting help but government is unprepared because there were 600 thousand addicts who surrendered. It is a struggle but they are not killing them.
[QUOTE=Fourier;51160181]Drug addicts are getting help but government is unprepared because there were 600 thousand addicts who surrendered. It is a struggle but they are not killing them.[/QUOTE] As of two months ago: [quote]As of August 31, police records show 929 drug suspects have been killed in government operations, while 1,507 have been killed by unknown attackers, and 10 police officers killed during drugs operations. That brings the total fatalities to at least 2,446. A man and his four-year-old daughter was also killed on Thursday, bringing the number up to 2,448.[/quote] This is not acceptable under any circumstances. Was the four year old also a drug addict? Duterte has given presidential approval for drug addicts to be murdered in the street, and people are taking up his call to action. At least as of the time that this statistic was gathered, 50 people a day were being murdered as a direct result of Duterte's personal war on drugs. If that rate has held true, nearly 2000 others have already joined the initial casualties, most of which are at the hands of vigilante murderers, carried out with no due process, and remain unsolved murders. The ends do not justify the means here. This is disgusting beyond words, not only for the fact that extrajudicial murders are, in and of themselves, a barbaric thing, but because there is literally no way to verify whether the people killed were [I]even involved in any drug offenses[/I]. Like the four year old girl in the quote above, how can we verify in any sense that the casualties of this stupid fucking crusade are even the [I]guilty[/I] of the crime they are being executed for? Getting away with murder has become as simple as leaving a sign saying "drug dealer."
[QUOTE=Chonch;51160012]I'm sure it's very convenient to ignore the legality of a drug in a thread about a guy who wants illegal drug users killed.[/QUOTE] its almost like people aren't a fan of him wanting illegal drug users killed???
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