• Israel: "nah lol cba" on investigating a Gaza airstrike which left 12 civilians dead
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[t]http://imgkk.com/i/01hn.jpg[/t] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22145144[/url] [quote]Israel's military has said it will not order a criminal investigation into the bombing of a house in Gaza in the 2012 conflict which left 12 civilians dead. Ten members of one family and two of their neighbours were killed on 18 November when the house they were in was hit by a missile. The Israeli Defense Forces said that the deaths were "regrettable". But it said the strike had been justified as it happened during an attempt to target a senior militant.[/quote]
I can't imagine living in a place where every so often it's just BAM missile strike.
Facepunch is so stupid. They are incredibly biased towards Israel even though most people support Israel based on moral rights and some logic. I'm sick and tired of every single Israel thread here that is biased against Israel and people wonder why Israel ignores the UN and the Human Rights Council considering how many hypocritical Israel enemies are on it. Israel may not be perfect but it's sure as hell a lot better than all the other countries in the middle east. The Palestinians just use violence over and over again and wonder why Israel is so hesitant to give them a state. If they had been more peaceful they could of had their state a while ago. They also blame Israel for their conditions when it's their own fault. Everything Israel has done that has made life more complicated for the Palestinians was for security reasons. Also when Palestinian militants were firing into Israel not one Arab leader said a damn thing to condemn it. If they actually wanted peace they would condemn any violence towards anyone. You also never hear Palestinians say lets try to analyze this from the Israeli point of view. They never sympathize ever for their aspirations and yet Israelis feel good when life for them is better. I'm just sick and tired of this.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278305]Facepunch is so stupid. They are incredibly biased towards Israel even though most people support Israel based on moral rights and some logic. I'm sick and tired of every single Israel thread here that is biased against Israel and people wonder why Israel ignores the UN and the Human Rights Council considering how many hypocritical Israel enemies are on it. Israel may not be perfect but it's sure as hell a lot better than all the other countries in the middle east. The Palestinians just use violence over and over again and wonder why Israel is so hesitant to give them a state. If they had been more peaceful they could of had their state a while ago. They also blame Israel for their conditions when it's their own fault. Everything Israel has done that has made life more complicated for the Palestinians was for security reasons.[/QUOTE] It's okay friend, I fully support Israel so your not alone.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278305]If they actually wanted peace they would condemn any violence towards anyone.[/QUOTE] But Israel is too imperialist to just grant them independence that is why they're attempting to fight for their independence. you know like britian and the usa i'd probably even help free up some of the bad relations between the Islamic states and Israel, since they'd be giving back the muslims control of some of the holy land.
[QUOTE=KingArcher;40278467]But Israel is too imperialist to just grant them independence that is why they're attempting to fight for their independence. you know like britian and the usa[/QUOTE] No they want a Jewish majority and the Arabs are having more children. It isn't racist either since most countries with a minority want themselves as the majority people nation. Besides from history and major racism against Jews, the Israelis know that the only way to live in a secure country that people feel at home in, is to live in a country with a majority of themselves. They can't give back parts of Jerusalem to the Palestinians. That would be suicide for Israel. It would actually encourage the extremists and more extremist Arabs would move there and destroy more Jewish artifacts (which they are already doing.) They would also use it as another proxy by Iran to encourage terrorists to move there and they would probably be encouraged to launch rockets there at closer Israeli targets. People don't like to hear the truth and think everybody would get along but this is what would really happen. Some Arab groups even said that they would want to expand into Jerusalem and launch an apocalyptic war against the Jewish state.
I just think it's funny how much Israel hates the old Nazi regime when they're one of the closest things to it in this present time.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278524]No they want a Jewish majority and the Arabs are having more children. It isn't racist either since most countries with a majority consider themselves that majority nation. Besides from history and major racism against Jews, the Israelis know that the only way to live in a secure country that people feel at home in, is to live in a country with a majority of themselves.[/QUOTE] but there were already innocent arabs there before israel was even a state but yeah that's pretty racist man
[QUOTE=KingArcher;40278548]what the fuck, then wouldn't giving the arabs back control of Palestine have them stop you know living in Israel? that doesn't even make sense but yeah that's pretty racist man[/QUOTE] Israel would give them a state in more areas of the West Bank but not Jersualem. I think you also forget the fact that "Palestine" was part of the ottoman empire and thus was a puppet state when Israel is an independent and the only Jewish state. Racist because it would be executed by Israel and Jews? Don't even get me started on what the Palestinian government controlled media and a lot of Palestinians say about Jews. That's just stupid as hell to think it's racist. You know the first Palestinian grand mufti collaborated with Hitler and wanted to kill the Jews and the Arabs even said during the 1948 war they wanted to throw the Jews into the sea. How about that? Isn't that racism. So shut the hell up about Israel being racist when they just want to live in peace and security. Look up what Palestinians say about Jews. There is a hell of a lot more racism coming from their side.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278524]No they want a Jewish majority and the Arabs are having more children. It isn't racist either since most countries with a majority consider themselves that majority nation. Besides from history and major racism against Jews, the Israelis know that the only way to live in a secure country that people feel at home in, is to live in a country with a majority of themselves. They can't give back parts of Jerusalem to the Palestinians. That would be suicide for Israel. It would actually encourage the extremists and more extremist Arabs would move there and destroy more Jewish artifacts (which they are already doing.) They would also use it as another proxy by Iran to encourage terrorists to move there and they would probably be encouraged to launch rockets there at closer Israeli targets. People don't like to hear the truth and think everybody would get along but this is what would really happen. Some Arab groups even said that they would want to expand into Jerusalem and launch an apocalyptic war against the Jewish state.[/QUOTE] i gave up all hopes of having an argument with you [QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278616]Racist because it would be executed by Israel and Jews? Don't even get me started on what the Palestinian government controlled media and a lot of Palestinians say about Jews. That's just stupid as hell to think it's racist. You know the first Palestinian grand mufti collaborated with Hitler and wanted to kill the Jews and the Arabs even said during the 1948 war they wanted to throw the Jews into the sea. How about that? Isn't that racism. So shut the hell up about Israel being racist when they just want to live in peace and security.[/QUOTE] you're fighting racism with racism what are you doing
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278305]They also blame Israel for their conditions when it's their own fault. [/QUOTE] I dont know much on this subject, but did Palestinians support that the UN gave Israel a part of their land after ww2?
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278524]No they want a Jewish majority and the Arabs are having more children. It isn't racist either since most countries with a majority consider themselves that majority nation. Besides from history and major racism against Jews, the Israelis know that the only way to live in a secure country that people feel at home in, is to live in a country with a majority of themselves.[/QUOTE] I agree, its a shame about those pesky Arabs that had their families live there before the formation of Israel. If they were only ethnically cleansed like the 500-700k other Arabs, then the JEWISH state would enjoy greater stability.
I really don't give a shit if they just want peace and security when they're trying to accomplish that by institutionalized discrimination and illegal warfare. The ends do not justify the means.
[QUOTE=Lamar;40278642]I agree, its a shame about those pesky Arabs that had their families live there before the formation of Israel. If they were only ethnically cleansed from Israel like the 500-700k other Arabs, then the JEWISH state would enjoy greater stability.[/QUOTE] Most countries weren't formed under ideal conditions and also many of the Arab leaders encouraged the Palestinians to move out into other Arab countries once they kicked the Jews out. Some left as a result of the fighting, this is true too. Some were also kicked out. Also Israel absorbed Jewish refugees from Arab countries after the war after THEY were kicked out and the Arab countries won't absorb Palestinian refugees as THEIR citizens which is incredibly hypocritical. They are discriminated against as well. There is a lot of anti-Israel propaganda out there which either exaggerates things about Israel or completely makes it up or forges it.
People need to be in international court for this! This is small scale genocide.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278305]Facepunch is so stupid. They are incredibly biased towards Israel even though most people support Israel based on moral rights and some logic. I'm sick and tired of every single Israel thread here that is biased against Israel and people wonder why Israel ignores the UN and the Human Rights Council considering how many hypocritical Israel enemies are on it. Israel may not be perfect but it's sure as hell a lot better than all the other countries in the middle east. The Palestinians just use violence over and over again and wonder why Israel is so hesitant to give them a state. If they had been more peaceful they could of had their state a while ago. They also blame Israel for their conditions when it's their own fault. Everything Israel has done that has made life more complicated for the Palestinians was for security reasons. Also when Palestinian militants were firing into Israel not one Arab leader said a damn thing to condemn it. If they actually wanted peace they would condemn any violence towards anyone.[/QUOTE] I swear to God I thought I was on Facepunch but apparently the Fox News comment section is here too. [QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278524]No they want a Jewish majority and the Arabs are having more children. It isn't racist either since most countries with a majority consider themselves that majority nation. Besides from history and major racism against Jews, the Israelis know that the only way to live in a secure country that people feel at home in, is to live in a country with a majority of themselves. They can't give back parts of Jerusalem to the Palestinians. That would be suicide for Israel. It would actually encourage the extremists and more extremist Arabs would move there and destroy more Jewish artifacts (which they are already doing.) They would also use it as another proxy by Iran to encourage terrorists to move there and they would probably be encouraged to launch rockets there at closer Israeli targets. People don't like to hear the truth and think everybody would get along but this is what would really happen. Some Arab groups even said that they would want to expand into Jerusalem and launch an apocalyptic war against the Jewish state.[/QUOTE] yeah hey guess who else wanted only a majority of his own people to live in his country and ousted anyone that wasn't a part of his race here's a hint: daloph rithelr
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;40278701]I swear to God I thought I was on Facepunch but apparently the Fox News comment section is here too.[/QUOTE] Because the Arab leaders and Arab people are so fucking hypocritical about Israel! Often they have their own problems and take it out on Israel. This is what I mean about bias. So far I haven't come across a single pro Israel person on facepunch. Also David Ben Gurion knew that the Arabs would be hostile towards them so they knew that they had to prepare for hostility towards them.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278727] So far I haven't come across a single pro Israel person on facepunch.[/QUOTE] perhaps its because israel isn't doing the right thing here
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;40278701]I swear to God I thought I was on Facepunch but apparently the Fox News comment section is here too.[/QUOTE] It's kind of like being on a field trip. To be fair, I hate the entire region of the Middle East. Nothing seems to be handled right there and it's just a breeding ground for violence and suffering. Makes me sad yo.
[QUOTE=draugur;40278757] To be fair, I hate the entire region of the Middle East. Nothing seems to be handled right there and it's just a breeding ground for violence and suffering. Makes me sad yo.[/QUOTE] everything is a desert who thought settling there was a good idea
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278727]Because the Arab leaders and Arab people are so fucking hypocritical about Israel! Often they have their own problems and take it out on Israel. This is what I mean about bias. So far I haven't come across a single pro Israel person on facepunch. Also David Ben Gurion knew that the Arabs would be hostile towards them so they knew that they had to prepare for hostility towards them.[/QUOTE] Please justify the segregation of bus systems, the secret deportation of African refugees (Oh and the sterilization of them too), the unequal treatment in prison systems, the bare minimum amount of aid sent into Gaza, and the illegal settlements in the west bank. Once you can do that I'll think about being pro-Isreal.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278727]Because the Arab leaders and Arab people are so fucking hypocritical about Israel! Often they have their own problems and take it out on Israel. This is what I mean about bias. So far I haven't come across a single pro Israel person on facepunch. Also David Ben Gurion knew that the Arabs would be hostile towards them so they knew that they had to prepare for hostility towards them.[/QUOTE] uh, there are/where plenty of pro-Isreal people on here. Glabor (I think??), Deviodere (something like that), and a few other people like the one guy that joined the JDF and a few other people that were permabanned because they cooked up some wild fucking conspiracy theories that the Palestinian state was out to kill all Jews and wipe out Judaism and all this crap.
[QUOTE=draugur;40278757]It's kind of like being on a field trip. To be fair, I hate the entire region of the Middle East. Nothing seems to be handled right there and it's just a breeding ground for violence and suffering. Makes me sad yo.[/QUOTE] During the Arab spring and now Israel is the only successful middle eastern country. They are very stable and they don't have massacures going on like the one in Syria. Israel isn't run by dictators and technically it is a democracy. Yes it isn't a perfect democracy but what country is? They have the best scientists, nurses, engineers, etc. I wasn't be a supremacist when I said this either. These are facts. The quality of life in Israel is much better than in the Arab countries. In Saudi Arabia they would cut your hands off if you did anything bad and in Iraq they could hang or stone you. Another proof of racism: in surveys MOST Arabs hate or have bad feelings against JEWS, not Israelis or Zionists. The Jews that are still living there have to be very careful because they were often attacked by the residents.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278846]During the Arab spring and now Israel is the only successful middle eastern country. They are very stable and they don't have massacures going on like the one in Syria. Israel isn't run by dictators and technically it is a democracy. Yes it isn't a perfect democracy but what country is? They have the best scientists, nurses, engineers, etc. I wasn't be a supremacist when I said this either. These are facts. The quality of life in Israel is much better than in the Arab countries. In Saudi Arabia they would cut your hands off if you did anything bad and in Iraq they could hang or stone you. Another proof of racism: in surveys MOST Arabs hated or had bad feelings against JEWS, not Israelis or Zionists. The Jews that are still living there have to be very careful because they were often attacked by the residents.[/QUOTE] The quality of life is good there for Jews and only Jews. If it were such an "Advanced" nation they wouldn't sink down to the supposed racism of their neighbors.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278846] in surveys MOST Arabs hated or had bad feelings against JEWS, not Israelis or Zionists. The Jews that are still living there have to be very careful because they were often attacked by the residents.[/QUOTE] this is usually the point where you try to prove your case by posting reputable sources that support your batshit insane ideas about these "surveys" that were conducted.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;40278835]uh, there are/where plenty of pro-Isreal people on here. Glabor (I think??), Deviodere (something like that), and a few other people like the one guy that joined the JDF and a few other people that were permabanned because they cooked up some wild fucking conspiracy theories that the Palestinian state was out to kill all Jews and wipe out Judaism and all this crap.[/QUOTE] It's the truth???? There are tons of videos with "moderate" Palestinian leaders saying they didn't want a two state solution and that it's a lie and that the Palestinian state would start out on the 1967 borders and then once they get enough control they would want to expand onto ALL of Israel. The truth is is that they are not prepared to recognize Israel on any borders. Listen to Abbas's UN speech. Even the Palestinian "moderate" president Abbas said it. There is no evidence of ethnic GENOCIDE against Palestinians.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;40278835]a few other people like the one guy that joined the JDF[/QUOTE] oh yeah i remember that guy, the one who kept saying that he was tired of being complacent and wanted to raid Palestine and be a hero? can't help but wonder if he got his wish
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278846]During the Arab spring and now Israel is the only successful middle eastern country. They are very stable and they don't have massacures going on like the one in Syria. Israel isn't run by dictators and technically it is a democracy. Yes it isn't a perfect democracy but what country is? They have the best scientists, nurses, engineers, etc. I wasn't be a supremacist when I said this either. These are facts. The quality of life in Israel is much better than in the Arab countries. In Saudi Arabia they would cut your hands off if you did anything bad and in Iraq they could hang or stone you. Another proof of racism: in surveys MOST Arabs hated or had bad feelings against JEWS, not Israelis or Zionists. The Jews that are still living there have to be very careful because they were often attacked by the residents.[/QUOTE] Yeah and a Israeli poll finds majority would be in favour of 'apartheid' policies against Arabs.
[QUOTE=KingArcher;40278793]everything is a desert who thought settling there was a good idea[/QUOTE] Only half the part of the country is a desert.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278902]It's the truth???? There are tons of videos with "moderate" Palestinian leaders saying they didn't want a two state solution and that it's a lie and that the Palestinian state would start out on the 1967 borders and then once they get enough control they would want to expand onto ALL of Israel. The truth is is that they are not prepared to recognize Israel on any borders. Listen to Abbas's UN speech. Even the Palestinian "moderate" president Abbas said it. There is no evidence of ethnic GENOCIDE against Palestinians.[/QUOTE] Okay? Do you think the fact that there is no ethnic genocide makes Isreal a nation worth respecting. They've got a long list of human rights violations. In fact the same attacks you say they face outside of their nation are turned around on the Arabs within their own. Entire Palestinian homes and settlements come under attack and are torn down around Jewish settlements (in the west bank). Homes are stolen at night from Palestinians. Isreal commits the same crimes you say are committed against them.
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