MegaUpload Users Planning to Sue FBI Over Lost Data - Polidicks

[table="width: 1100"] [tr] [td][QUOTE]All the fire and brimstone rhetoric following the MegaUpload shutdown makes it seem like there was no legitimate use for the site. Despite that image, thousands of users were using MegaUpload to store and share their own files, which have now been lost. In response, Pirate Parties in several countries are putting together a list of affected users in preparation for a lawsuit against the FBI. When MegaUpload vanished, users lost access to their peronal files without any chance to retrieve them. “The widespread damage caused by the sudden closure of Megaupload is unjustified and completely disproportionate to the aim intended,” the Pirates of Catalonia said in a statement. Along with Pirate Parties International, potential breaches of US law are being explored for use in the case. Of course, MegaUpload was a shady business by all accounts, and users should not have left anything irreplaceable on its servers. This does bring up the question of what a company’s responsibility is when you store your files. If they lose it, should you be compensated?[/QUOTE][/td] [td][IMG]http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u94712/megaupload.png[/IMG][/td] [/tr] [/table] [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] [url]http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/megaupload_users_planning_sue_fbi_over_lost_data[/url]

Megaupload is evidence against the prosecuted. Leaving it up leaves it vulnerable to tampering, and it needs to be examined to count as proof. Legitimate reason to take it down, stop being retards and expecting online services to be faultless file stores. Storage 101, your storage will stop working at any time, make sure you keep multiple backups on different media and in different places.

They at least need to bring MU up for a few days so people can get files they need off of it, to be distributed elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34423353]They at least need to bring MU up for a few days so people can get files they need off of it, to be distributed elsewhere.[/QUOTE] That's too smart. Other people would use it for PIRACY, quite obviously, not using legitimate file sharing, no no no.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;34423332]Megaupload is evidence against the prosecuted. Leaving it up leaves it vulnerable to tampering, and it needs to be examined to count as proof. Legitimate reason to take it down, stop being retards and expecting online services to be faultless file stores. Storage 101, your storage will stop working at any time, make sure you keep multiple backups on different media and in different places.[/QUOTE] Oh look somebody smart is posting about this.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;34423332]Legitimate reason to take it down, stop being retards and expecting online services to be faultless file stores. Storage 101, your storage will stop working at any time, make sure you keep multiple backups on different media and in different places.[/QUOTE] Most bit-lockers even have it in their terms of service that if they go down for any reason (Act of god, war, natural disaster, court order, etc), they're not responsible for any lost data.

[QUOTE=Noth;34423377]Most bit-lockers even have it in their terms of service that if they go down for any reason (Act of god, war, natural disaster, court order, etc), they're not responsible for any lost data.[/QUOTE] And they shouldn't be held accountable. You put the files at risk by storing them on an external system by your own will. If you refuse or neglect to make a local backup, or more remote backups that you can control, you can't really complain when the service fails.

They're not going to be taken seriously if they are being represented by a group called pirate parties international... Yarr

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34423353]They at least need to bring MU up for a few days so people can get files they need off of it, to be distributed elsewhere.[/QUOTE] It's better just to not let anybody outside of the investigation touch their servers. Any kind of interaction could be called interference.

Thinking people would be legitimately using a small amount of time to get their data instead of using it to cover up incriminating stuff is like thinking people follow the "please drink responsibly" message on alcohol.

I would've imagined they understood the risks of storing their stuff on megaupload going in.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34423353]They at least need to bring MU up for a few days so people can get files they need off of it, to be distributed elsewhere.[/QUOTE] what kind of idea is that that allows for the copyrighted material to be distributed elsewhere aswell.

[QUOTE=Noth;34423377]Most bit-lockers even have it in their terms of service that if they go down for any reason (Act of god, war, natural disaster, court order, etc), they're not responsible for any lost data.[/QUOTE] You forget that they aren't trying to hold Megaupload responsible for this.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;34423332]Storage 101, your storage will stop working at any time, make sure you keep multiple backups on different media and in different places.[/QUOTE] BRB, backing up my patio furniture and lawnmower, can't risk losing anything due to my storage locker not working.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;34423332]Megaupload is evidence against the prosecuted. Leaving it up leaves it vulnerable to tampering, and it needs to be examined to count as proof. Legitimate reason to take it down, stop being retards and expecting online services to be faultless file stores. Storage 101, your storage will stop working at any time, make sure you keep multiple backups on different media and in different places.[/QUOTE] It might be stupid and reckless, but it's their data and they can store it where and how they want, and a company that specializes in storing and transferring data should be responsible. Regardless of whether or not the customers decide to back it up.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;34423773]what kind of idea is that that allows for the copyrighted material to be distributed elsewhere aswell.[/QUOTE] And? If it's something worth downloading the pirates already have copies everywhere. Can't put Megaupload in a bigger ditch, really.

They deserve to fucking win

[QUOTE=Noth;34423377]Most bit-lockers even have it in their terms of service that if they go down for any reason (Act of god, war, natural disaster, court order, etc), they're not responsible for any lost data.[/QUOTE] That's why the FBI is being sued and not Megaupload. If I had some family heirlooms in a storage unit and a construction company demolished the building because they had the wrong address and were supposed to demolish the house beside it, I'd sue the demolition company and not the storage unit's owner.

megaupload is obviously not at fault here, they are suing the fbi, not megaupload. stop talking shit , america is awrong for removing the data and they have every right to sue them.

who the fuck stores personal data in megaupload hell, who the fuck stores personal data on the cloud and doesn't keep a physical backup

[QUOTE=latin_geek;34425000]who the fuck stores personal data in megaupload hell, who the fuck stores personal data on the cloud and doesn't keep a physical backup[/QUOTE] Me. I lost a lot of shit when MU went down. Now that I have 2 2 TB externals I don't have to keep online backups as often.

put it back up and disable uploads so people can grab their shit. I gaurentee that there will be no daamge done to the supposed "copyright holders"

[QUOTE=Zeke129;34424728]That's why the FBI is being sued and not Megaupload. If I had some family heirlooms in a storage unit and a construction company demolished the building because they had the wrong address and were supposed to demolish the house beside it, I'd sue the demolition company and not the storage unit's owner.[/QUOTE] It's a little bit different when dealing with digital files that you can easily make millions of copies of. Physical objects aren't as easy to duplicate. If you don't have backups of your files, then you pretty much deserve to lose them.

i don't know why you guys are whining that you should keep multiple backups, normally you don't really need to because i wouldn't expect my backup website to just randomly shut down. it costs money too, by the way. the fbi should have given a notice at least

[QUOTE=The First 11'er;34425301]i don't know why you guys are whining that you should keep multiple backups, normally you don't really need to because i wouldn't expect my backup website to just randomly shut down. it costs money too, by the way. the fbi should have given a notice at least[/QUOTE] Yeah give notice so that people can remove the evidence of copyright material

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34425231]It's a little bit different when dealing with digital files that you can easily make millions of copies of. Physical objects aren't as easy to duplicate. If you don't have backups of your files, then you pretty much deserve to lose them.[/QUOTE] Some of us have extremely slow upload speeds that make uploading to more than one place something that isn't feasible, and physical backups cost money unless you keep them in your house. (Which only protects against hardware failure)

[QUOTE=Sand;34425463]Yeah give notice so that people can remove the evidence of copyright material[/QUOTE] If the FBI's gonna do a takedown, they've got the evidence they need.

All the data on MU's servers is evidence. You [I]might MAYBE[/I] be able to get it back [U]after[/U] the trial ends. Maybe. Likely not. Your online porn stash is gone, guys. And now every FBI dude on the case knows your fetish(s).

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34426733]All the data on MU's servers is evidence. You [I]might MAYBE[/I] be able to get it back [U]after[/U] the trial ends. Maybe. Likely not. Your online porn stash is gone, guys. And now every FBI dude on the case knows your fetish(s).[/QUOTE]I now feel sorry for the investigators that have to go through the files and what fucked up porn they're going to find.

Rule #1 to backup is never back up data on one spot only.