• Ubisoft: DRM Can't Stop Piracy
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1kXd3CV.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]"What becomes key for us is making sure we're delivering an experience to paying players that is quality," Ubisoft VP of digital publishing Chris Early told GameSpot. "I don't want us in a position where we're punishing a paying player for what a pirate can get around. Anything is going to be able to be pirated given enough time and enough effort to get in there. So the question becomes, what do we create as services, or as benefits, and the quality of the game, that will just have people want to pay for it?"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"I think it's much more important for us to focus on making a great game and delivering good services. The reality is, the more service there is in a game, pirates don't get that," Early said. "So when it's a good game and there's good services around it, you're incentivized to not pirate the game to get the full experience."[/QUOTE] [B]Full article:[/B] [url]http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ubisoft-drm-can-t-stop-piracy/1100-6420602/[/url]
Wow companies are slowly starting to realise that DRM doesn't work and never has, and never will.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;45175629]Wow companies are slowly starting to realise that DRM doesn't work and never has, and never will.[/QUOTE] They just say one thing and do another.
The irony here lies in the fact that they force use to use Uplay, which is DRM :v:
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;45175629]Wow companies are slowly starting to realise that DRM doesn't work and never has, and never will.[/QUOTE] How long did it take? 15-20 years?
[QUOTE=Impact1986;45175664]How long did it take? 15-20 years?[/QUOTE] They're still using a form of DRM on their products, Uplay. It's a nice irony.
Oh my god there are pigs flying past my window and I'm recieving reports that hell has frozen over.
[QUOTE=IrishGamer;45175674]Oh my god there are pigs flying past my window and I'm recieving reports that hell has frozen over.[/QUOTE] Cats and Dogs are Breakdancing together over here in england. Im just as surprised as you are.
[QUOTE]I don't want us in a position where we're punishing a paying player for what a pirate can get around[/QUOTE] I can't tell if he's bullshitting or never actually paid attention to the shit they release
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45175673]They're still using a form of DRM on their products, Uplay. It's a nice irony.[/QUOTE] Just because DRM can't stop piracy doesn't mean having a simple form of DRM is bad. It's the same concept as locking your door despite the fact that won't really stop anyone who is determined to break in. The main problem is Uplay's servers are shit.
DRM is good to an extent in my opinion, but too strict DRM will only make it a hassle for the legit buyers.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45175647]They just say one thing and do another.[/QUOTE] Yeah well the morality of the gaming industry seems to have taken a dive in the past decade, and by dive I mean vertical dive. [QUOTE=Impact1986;45175664]How long did it take? 15-20 years?[/QUOTE] Too goddamn long. All this 3rd party launcher, web browser launcher, online only, daily checks, is total horse crap. Not to mention the crap that EA pulled with making you connect to their servers and lie out of their teeth about it all for a good year and a bit. I just don't get why these game companies don't realise that if it was made by man it can be bypassed by man. Just as EVERY single kind of DRM has been. [editline]21st June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=DaMastez;45175711]Just because DRM can't stop piracy doesn't mean having a simple form of DRM is bad. It's the same concept as locking your door despite the fact that won't really stop anyone who is determined to break in. The main problem is Uplay's servers are shit.[/QUOTE] I think CD-Keys for install is the best way to go. And the way ETS2 handles CD-Keys with a simple blacklist I find works better than most of the new DRM crap that has emerged over the past decade.
Either don't attach DRM to it or at least give it decent DRM like Steam. I'd prefer the DRM-less option. Good Old Games is pretty good when it comes to that.
[QUOTE=megafat;45175803]Either don't attach DRM to it or at least give it decent DRM like Steam. I'd prefer the DRM-less option. Good Old Games is pretty good when it comes to that.[/QUOTE] Tbh, I don't even look at Steam as DRM, but as the hub of PC gaming.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;45175711]Just because DRM can't stop piracy doesn't mean having a simple form of DRM is bad. It's the same concept as locking your door despite the fact that won't really stop anyone who is determined to break in. The main problem is Uplay's servers are shit.[/QUOTE] DRM-free games don't seem to get significantly higher piracy rates than games with DRM afaik. So any DRM is bad imo.
This is nice and all, but the real deal begins when you cut this intrusive shit out of your games. Forever. Permanently. Thanks.
If you are serious Ubisoft then please give me a way to launch Blood Dragon through Steam without Uplay. I don't even care if it lacks achievements as a result.
[QUOTE=The golden;45175845]Steam is a horrible DRM. Some days I can't even play games with my friends because we get booted out of the game every time the Steam community goes down (which sometimes can be 5+ times a day).[/QUOTE] Which is why i said i prefer the DRM-less option. Even Steam has a lot of problems.
[QUOTE=The golden;45175845]Steam is a horrible DRM. Some days I can't even play games with my friends because we get booted out of the game every time the Steam community goes down (which sometimes can be 5+ times a day).[/QUOTE] I've never had that problem. Sure it's not something on your ends? The only issue I have is the chat goes down sometimes.
Why do I feel that Ubisoft is trying to save face after that lie they said about Watch Dogs.
I remember when one day I bought a game. I expected to put the disc in the PC, install it and play and be happy. But then it made me install steam. Which was a pretty big deal since I was sharing games with my brother. We obviously had a shared account, but still I have a grudge against steam due to it destroying the balance of easily sharing games with my brother. Just install it twice, simple as that it was.
[QUOTE=The golden;45175845]Steam is a horrible DRM. Some days I can't even play games with my friends because we get booted out of the game every time the Steam community goes down (which sometimes can be 5+ times a day).[/QUOTE] The steam community rarely goes down for me and my friends
[QUOTE=The golden;45175845]Steam is a horrible DRM. Some days I can't even play games with my friends because we get booted out of the game every time the Steam community goes down (which sometimes can be 5+ times a day).[/QUOTE] Steam has an offline mode if you internet is that bad.
[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;45175692]Cats and Dogs are Breakdancing together over here in england. Im just as surprised as you are.[/QUOTE] I'm even seeing sharks jumping all over the place at my neighborhood.
[QUOTE=IrishGamer;45175674]Oh my god there are pigs flying past my window and I'm recieving reports that hell has frozen over.[/QUOTE] This is why my city experienced a 3.0 earthquake less than an hour ago. END OF DAYS
the steam platform is great however, the steam client is terrible
[QUOTE=.Lain;45176140]the steam platform is great however, the steam client is terrible[/QUOTE] The phone app is dodgy and sometimes I get the same message repeated twice until I close the app and reload it. Other than the occasional chat downtime or community death it's been fine. Nothing will beat steams difficult birth in 2003 when it was down for fucking ages and I couldn't play shit.
Really hope they actually lop off UPlay from their games then. [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13397008/uplay_stories.png[/img] Been stuck with this for a while now. The times I've gotten through, it claimed my email was in use even though I straight up never touched UPlay until now. Probably better off pirating a game I already bought at this point, just so I wouldn't have to muck around with a DRM that refuses to work.
I remember when Ubisoft removed the always-online DRM requirement from AC2 after the first 6 or 8 months despite gamers screaming about it constantly since before launch (and it not slowing pirates down by much). The interview with the Ubisoft PR was great, watching them give their scripted statement about how they're removing the DRM on their own initiative, without admitting that the always-on requirement was a total failure. The interviewer tried repeatedly to get them to admit that the DRM was a failure and they were removing it to satisfy the tons of angry gamers that either refused to touch it or bought it and can't play it because the DRM was shit, and they wouldn't budge from their prepared statement. Even though it was obvious that that was specifically the problem, the PR pretended otherwise.
I also have a problem with offline mode, it just doesnt lets me go into offline mode for some reason, always gives an error [editline]21st June 2014[/editline] I'll figure out something on my phone next time it appears though, so no worries
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