Lord Heseltine - "The UK will join the Euro... if it survives" - Polidicks

[B]Conservative peer and former deputy prime minister Lord Heseltine has told the BBC that he thinks the UK will join the euro "if it survives". [/B]The pro-European politician, recently appointed as a government adviser, told the Daily Politics[B] Britain had "failed" to resist European integration. [/B]Lord Heseltine said European countries would "cling on" to the euro. The Eurozone faced a "crisis" but he said it was a [B]"very Eurosceptic view" to see the euro as a "failed project"[/B]. Asked if he thought the UK would adopt the single currency, he said: "[B]If it survives, and my guess is it will survive, my guess is in the future - it won't be this week or next week or next year - we will do so, because the whole process of Europeanisation we have resisted and we have failed at every turn. [/B]"If you look at the history of it, we were asked to lead it and we refused." The peer served as a cabinet minister in the 1980s before resigning and later challenging Margaret Thatcher for the Conservative leadership - a challenge that triggered the end of her premiership in 1990. Lord Heseltine, who was also deputy prime minister during the latter part of John Major's time in Downing Street, said: "Every time we've had these arguments... it's always turned out to be unworkable from our point of view." [B] David Cameron said last December there was "absolutely no prospect of joining the euro" while he was prime minister. [/B]Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, whose Lib Dems are the most pro-European of the three largest UK parties, said in September he t[B]hought it was very unlikely that "we will see this country entering the euro during my political lifetime". [/B]Labour leader Ed Miliband told the BBC last year he thought joining the euro would be [B]"very, very unlikely... I don't think it's going to happen... I can't see it in the foreseeable future". [/B][IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59700000/jpg/_59700736_jex_1380649_de27-1.jpg[/IMG] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17742675[/url]

They'll have to take my pounds from my cold dead hands.

I wish you everyone luck here in Europe I am moving to Canada. If you manage to save the continent from sinking I might go visit on a break!

no one likes you heseltine

I like my Pound Sterling though

Yeah lets join a crumbling currency, that'll work out great...

yeah alright pal you already said this would happen and it didn't fuck you heseltine

What the fuck..... Idiots in power strike once again.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;35607485]I wish you everyone luck here in Europe I am moving to Canada. If you manage to save the continent from sinking I might go visit on a break![/QUOTE] Canada, taking in millions of immigrants from countries all over the world every single time a slightly bad thing happens anywhere since 1991

They should really do something about the central banks and the abuse of fractional reserve banking before considering doing anything like this. I guess it happens in most countries, though. How about a moneyless society?

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;35607949]They should really do something about the central banks and the abuse of fractional reserve banking before considering doing anything like this. I guess it happens in most countries, though. How about a moneyless society?[/QUOTE] would you like your paycheck in furniture then

[QUOTE=scout1;35607958]would you like your paycheck in furniture then[/QUOTE] or salt?

Isn't he the guy who has been saying we are going to join the Euro since about six months before they invented the damn thing?

Problem is, the Euro isn't going to survive.

Referring to a ten euro note as a tenner will feel so wrong. A tenner will always be ten pounds.

Won't happen, huge public outcry would never let it happen. I hope.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35607699]Yeah lets join a crumbling currency, that'll work out great...[/QUOTE] Nobody is even saying that, if you read the article every single person mentioned wants to wait until it's more stable, and when it is - it will then be beneficial for the uk to join the euro.

remember greece?

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;35607949]They should really do something about the central banks and the abuse of fractional reserve banking before considering doing anything like this. I guess it happens in most countries, though. How about a moneyless society?[/QUOTE] but its not democratic if you cant screw people over with money

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;35608139]Nobody is even saying that, if you read the article every single person mentioned wants to wait until it's more stable, and when it is - it will then be beneficial for the uk to join the euro.[/QUOTE] What the fuck did you read? They quoted Lord Heseltine, David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband, three of which said there was no chance in their political lives of it happening. Lord Heseltine is the only one of those people that wants it. It says nothing in the article that it would be beneficial to the UK..

[QUOTE=RO;35608312]What the fuck did you read? They quoted Lord Heseltine, David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband, three of which said there was no chance in their political lives of it happening. Lord Heseltine is the only one of those people that wants it. It says nothing in the article that it would be beneficial to the UK..[/QUOTE] Wow. [QUOTE]Asked if he thought the UK would adopt the single currency, he said: "If it survives, and my guess is it will survive, my guess is in the future - it won't be this week or next week or next year - we will do so, because the whole process of Europeanisation we have resisted and we have failed at every turn.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"If it survives, and my guess is it will survive, my guess is in the future - it won't be this week or next week or next year[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]my guess is in the future[/QUOTE] The other three are saying exactly the same as Heseltine, that the UK will probably join it, just that it won't be them that has to take the backlash from everyone whining that they want to keep the pound for no reason other than they like it. If any of them said in a way less vague than they had done you'd use that against them every time they speak. "oh it's that david cameron cunt twat he supports the euro"

Why has it escaped some people's attention that the least affected Europen countries in the crisis were the ones with their own currency? [QUOTE=AngryChairR;35608335]The other three are saying exactly the same as Heseltine, that the UK will probably join it, just that it won't be them that has to take the backlash from everyone whining that they want to keep the pound for no reason other than they like it. If any of them said in a way less vague than they had done you'd use that against them every time they speak. "oh it's that david cameron cunt twat he supports the euro"[/QUOTE] "David Cameron said last December there was "absolutely no prospect of joining the euro" while he was prime minister." "Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, whose Lib Dems are the most pro-European of the three largest UK parties, said in September he thought it was very unlikely that "we will see this country entering the euro during my political lifetime"." "Labour leader Ed Miliband told the BBC last year he thought joining the euro would be "very, very unlikely... I don't think it's going to happen... I can't see it in the foreseeable future"." None of them say that the UK will probably join it. The closest they come to saying anything like that is essentially that [b]if[/b] it does happen, it won't be any time soon.

No please I liked using pounds when i traveled to England.

If the euro survives it's proven itself to be a very sturdy currency. I think it's sad to lose original currencies for a single broadly used one, but if it's beneficial in the long run, why not?

Yes I am absolutely willing to join a currency that may get wrecked by one idiot country

[QUOTE=Atlascore;35608446]Why does everyone hate the Euro? I think it was a pretty good idea, especially in a place like Europe where there's fifty different currencies..[/QUOTE] Two reasons: 1. It's a form of identity - part of a country's history, heritage, etc. Some people value it for this reason, some people hate the whole idea of heritage (and I could name a few on this forum) and some don't care either way. 2. The Euro crisis. The whole thing demonstrated that the Euro concept is like Communism - great in theory but not viable in practice. The problem is that because it causes all the members to be financially linked together, if one country has problems then it impacts all the other countries - imagine a load of ships tied together and one of them starts to sink...

[QUOTE=Atlascore;35608558]1. So it's because people are too stupid to accept change? That's a terrible reason to be against it, currency is such an insignificant part of your country's identity, especially considering the fact it changes appearance and value every decade or two.[/QUOTE] Or maybe because some people value their past, and there is no actual reason to change? I could actually accept what you were saying if there was something worth changing to - but saying people are to stupid to change to something that doesn't work isn't a good argument.

So I don't know much about the euro, being a naive american, besides the few times Ive been to germany and spent some so help me out here... but from the news as of lately it seems like the euro is a piece of shit that is collapsing on itself and the pound is a long running solid form of currency thats been there for awhile.... why would you let this man change your currency brits? Get your shit together haha... after typing that I took 10 seconds to think of my country and I redact it now completely :(

[QUOTE=King of Limbs;35608610]So I don't know much about the euro, being a naive american, besides the few times Ive been to germany and spent some so help me out here... but from the news as of lately it seems like the euro is a piece of shit that is collapsing on itself and the pound is a long running solid form of currency thats been there for awhile.... why would you let this man change your currency brits? Get your shit together haha... after typing that I took 10 seconds to think of my country and I redact it now completely :([/QUOTE] He isn't changing anything

[QUOTE=Atlascore;35608558]1. So it's because people are too stupid to accept change? That's a terrible reason to be against it, currency is such an insignificant part of your country's identity, especially considering the fact it changes appearance and value every decade or two. 2. That's perfectly understandable though, it sounds like they didn't think it through.[/QUOTE] The pound is worth more than the Euro. That reason in itself is why we shouldn't join the Euro. [img]http://old.bbservers.co.uk/screenshots/Screenshot-2012-04-17_17.57.09.png[/img]