Lovely focus and lighting. Nice
[editline]31st March 2014[/editline]
2nd on this page is probably the best one, Great framing and sharpness.
this is awesome work, man! How was it just like getting them to pose for the picture? I'm curious on how people reacted and I always wanted to do something like this.
I wish I had the guts to do this..
[QUOTE=Rammaster;44417237]this is awesome work, man! How was it just like getting them to pose for the picture? I'm curious on how people reacted and I always wanted to do something like this.[/QUOTE]
About 8 out of 10 people were willing to be portraited. It's just about the way you approach them. Since I'm studying Media and Communication it's not that hard to think of a way to ask them. But even if you're not studying, just say so! Something like "Hey, I'm studying *insert something regarding arts / media here* and I'm doing a photo-project. I would like to take a picture of you. Is that okay?" And if they ask where it will get published and for what reason you simply respond something like "It's just for me. It's my hobby and you would do me a huge favor!"
After about 5 or so people you are used to approach foreign people. Some were a bit frightened, others simply didn't want to. You gotta respect the peoples' privacy so it's alright to get a few "No's!"
You guys should try it, it's really not that hard.
[QUOTE=TedStriker;44435910]And if they ask where it will get published and for what reason you simply respond something like "It's just for me. It's my hobby and you would do me a huge favor!"[/QUOTE]
Did you include somehow that it will be publicly available though? Recht am eigenen Bild and stuff.
If they already agree to be photographed then they probably don't mind, but if you get a weirdo who finds out it's public without being told, they can get you fined actually. (not saying it's likely, just [I]possible[/I])
[QUOTE=Fake-XM;44436063]
If they already agree to be photographed then they probably don't mind, but if you get a weirdo who finds out it's public without being told, they can get you fined actually. (not saying it's likely, just [I]possible[/I])[/QUOTE]
I don't think this is true.
Only when it's published for commercial purpose and money is made out of it directly. IIRC
They can force you to take down the image(s) due to portraiture rights.
Holy shit this is great. Nice work! Lots of soft lighting yet very crisp images.
Really cool pictures.
[QUOTE=Pickwickian-;44449110]I don't think this is true.[/QUOTE]
It depends on the country. In switzerland, for example, you are allowed to take photos of people but not publish them without consent. Still you could argue that they gave you consent to put it on your blog as a project when they said yes after you told them what you use it for.
Oral agreements are as valuable as written ones, they are just harder to prove.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. (:
First, second and last are my favorites. They are very interesting, good backdrops, smooth and soft bokeh - yet sharp focus where you want it to. Nicely done man.
I really want to try this. Although I had the idea of overlaying all the photos I may take in photoshop to create the 'average' person. Or putting all the images together in the style of Daniel Crooks, I thought it might be quite interesting.
[QUOTE=RainBD7;44650204]I really want to try this. Although I had the idea of overlaying all the photos I may take in photoshop to create the 'average' person. Or putting all the images together in the style of Daniel Crooks, I thought it might be quite interesting.[/QUOTE]
Don't talk, do it!
You don't ask people. It needs to be candid to be genuine. If they're posing it feels fake.
[QUOTE=aoax;44651518]You don't ask people. It needs to be candid to be genuine. If they're posing it feels fake.[/QUOTE]
That's only true if your intention is for 'candid' shots. It doesn't make the photos any less 'genuine' if the subject is aware. There are no rules man.
no the rules are that you don't ask and that the photos must be taken with a leica (preferably leica monochrom)
what kind of a street photographer are you if you ask for permission and don't even own a leica, christ
extra points if all you do is follow people around and take pictures of their backs
[QUOTE=aoax;44651518]You don't ask people. It needs to be candid to be genuine. If they're posing it feels fake.[/QUOTE]
one could argue that outright asking strangers to pose for a photo is more candid than anything.
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MOTHER OF DRAGONS
[QUOTE=bopie;44654121]That's only true if your intention is for 'candid' shots. It doesn't make the photos any less 'genuine' if the subject is aware. There are no rules man.[/QUOTE]
Never said there are rules. There are general things to go by if you want authentic photos.
Well, yes, that is a good point. however, by taking photos of people, the (implied) intention is to capture their emotions, feelings, natural mannerisms, etc. when you ask the people for photos, you're destroying those elements because the person is conscious about their expression.
Self portraits that aren't candid worked for JR and other photographers wanting to capture other elements where the posing would have been fine or even necessary. So I guess it all depends on your intentions. But in this case we don't know if OP is going to do some INSIDEOUT sort of stuff. All I see are photos of people so it can be reasonably assumed he wanted to capture them as they were. Which can't be done with candid photos.
Well that's a really narrow way of looking at things
[QUOTE=aoax;44662045]Never said there are rules. There are general things to go by if you want authentic photos.
Well, yes, that is a good point. however, by taking photos of people, the (implied) intention is to capture their emotions, feelings, natural mannerisms, etc. when you ask the people for photos, you're destroying those elements because the person is conscious about their expression.
Self portraits that aren't candid worked for JR and other photographers wanting to capture other elements where the posing would have been fine or even necessary. So I guess it all depends on your intentions. But in this case we don't know if OP is going to do some INSIDEOUT sort of stuff. All I see are photos of people so it can be reasonably assumed he wanted to capture them as they were. Which can't be done with candid photos.[/QUOTE]
wrong
just because a person is posed doesn't mean they aren't showing their emotions, feelings or natural mannerisms - for most people, they'll exaggerate some and repress others which shows not only those things but more - what the person thinks of themselves and their feelings, emotions and natural mannerisms
if posing destroyed all about the person doing it, models and such would solely be determined by how pretty they were rather than how they carry themselves and their attitudes
[QUOTE=Eltro102;44662133]wrong
just because a person is posed doesn't mean they aren't showing their emotions, feelings or natural mannerisms - for most people, they'll exaggerate some and repress others which shows not only those things but more - what the person thinks of themselves and their feelings, emotions and natural mannerisms
if posing destroyed all about the person doing it, models and such would solely be determined by how pretty they were rather than how they carry themselves and their attitudes[/QUOTE]
You can only see what's being repressed if you have the candid photo too. Or else you just see a guy smiling. You don't know if he's repressing his sadness or his emptiness or what have you. He might not even be repressing anything.
Also, a lot of models have to practice their walk, it isn't natural. Models usually are very stiff and unnatural looking before spending a ton of time practicing a natural look. Some models have that inherently but it's usually "you fit the physical requirements but your walk needs some work? Welcome to the team."
I don't really understand the point you are trying to make.
[QUOTE=aoax;44662045]Never said there are rules. There are general things to go by if you want authentic photos.[/QUOTE]
What exactly is an authentic photo, and on what authority should I take your definition?
I think posing actually brings out more of what a person is because it's a reflection of how they want others to perceive them. If it's posed it doesn't mean it's not genuine. And if it is, the ingenuity they show the camera tells a lot more about them, imo.
[QUOTE=bopie;44664053]What exactly is an authentic photo, and on what authority should I take your definition?[/QUOTE]
One that really captures them as they would be by themselves. One that shows who they really are without people or other influences. Them at their most basic, stripped of external factors. Of course that isn't completely possible but we can try our best.
What do you think?
[editline]28th April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rammaster;44664335]I think posing actually brings out more of what a person is because it's a reflection of how they want others to perceive them. If it's posed it doesn't mean it's not genuine. And if it is, the ingenuity they show the camera tells a lot more about them, imo.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, to assess what they want others to perceive them as, we need a candid photo because without it we wouldn't know what changed in them, we wouldn't be able to see what happened. That guy smiling could just be a happy guy. Or he could have packed away his sadness and smiled. We wouldn't know if he was sad to begin with without a candid photo.
[editline]28th April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rammaster;44664335]I think posing actually brings out more of what a person is because it's a reflection of how they want others to perceive them. If it's posed it doesn't mean it's not genuine. And if it is, the ingenuity they show the camera tells a lot more about them, imo.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, to assess what they want others to perceive them as, we need a candid photo because without it we wouldn't know what changed in them, we wouldn't be able to see what happened. That guy smiling could just be a happy guy. Or he could have packed away his sadness and smiled. We wouldn't know if he was sad to begin with without a candid photo.
[editline]28th April 2014[/editline]
Sorry if that self rated my computer's kinda wacky.
and in a candid photo you are just as likely to catch them in a moment that is unrepresentative of who they are, as they are still being influenced by their environment and other external factors. the guy you captured smiling in a "candid" way could have done so because of something else he observed, and then in another moment he didn't feel the same way. but you would deem it as authentic because he was not aware of the camera (which again is another inference), when by your definition it would not be.
your logic of an "authentic photo" is hardly even authentic because it requires projection from the viewer. a photo can give you an inference into emotions, but until the viewer fills them in it really does not have any meaning behind it.
no matter what you are doing it is likely representative of your "true" self, because you are always under influences of someone else. who you are at work might act different than who you are at home, but they are both the same person, just wearing a different social hat.
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