Royal Navy are pirates, says Argentina's president
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[QUOTE][B]The president of Argentina has described the Royal Navy as pirates and accused the British government of behaving like an imperial power with regard to the Falkland Islands.[/B]
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner used Twitter, the micro-blogging website, to sharply criticise plans by the Ministry of Defence to carry out military tests in the region. In a series of frank postings on her official Twitter account, she announced that Argentina had complained to the United Nations about Britain's "militarisation of the South Atlantic".
"Serious, very serious," Mrs Kirchner wrote. "Royal Navy, occupying colonial force in Falkland Islands, reports military exercise with missiles on the coast of East Falkland.
"Typical nineteenth century colonialism. Anachronistic use of force in violation of international law. They do not care. A clear example of double standards."
Mrs Kirchner then promised to summon the British ambassador, Shan Morgan, and said: "Conclusion ... pirates for ever?"
Her postings were erased, but not before they had been re-posted by hundreds of other Twitter users, many of them Argentines who enthusiastically endorsed the remarks.
The Twitter posts threaten to increase tension between the two countries at a time when British companies are beginning to explore for oil and gas in the region. Last week, in what is thought to have been the first incident of its kind in four years, an Argentine military ship confronted a trawler from the Falklands and accused it of fishing illegally. The Argentine crew contacted the fishermen, who were several miles inside Falklands waters, and demanded their details. The boat, from Port Stanley, eventually moved away.
Britain informed Argentina last week that it planned to carry out missile tests, in what officials have insisted was standard procedure. An embassy spokesman told local reporters: "We are a little taken aback, because these exercises are routine and are carried out every six months.
They've been happening for 28 years."
Mrs Kirchner has previously pledged an "eternal fight" to claim the Falklands Islands, which are known to Argentines as Las Malvinas. However she later ruled out the use of force to take the islands, which were briefly under the control of the then-ruling Argentine military junta in 1982. Britain sent a naval force and thousands of troops to reclaim the islands and there is a permanent British military presence on the islands, with 1,076 troops and four ships stationed in the region.
Recent tests indicated that there could be about 700 million barrels worth of crude oil under the ocean around the Falklands, which could be worth about £3 billion.
An official statement later released by Mrs Kirchner's office said: "The Argentine Government reiterates that the Malvinas, Georgias and South Sandwich Islands, part of the Argentine Republic and unlawfully occupied by the United Kingdom, are in dispute, which is recognised by the United Nations and other international organisations."[/QUOTE]
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Our Island yumadthough
Mmm, Sandwich Island.
Who the hell wouldn't want to own that?
well they kinda are acting imperialistic when it comes to the falkland islands
The Islanders want to be ruled under British rule, is that not enough?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;25338159]Tomorrows news:
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I love that image.
I don't think they should be surprised. I'm not anti-British or anything, but they pulled the same shit with Spain hundreds of years ago.
England is an imperialist monarchical oppressing pig-dog colonizing terror state.
Well to be fair Argentina are the aggressors in the region. In fact Britain has allowed the Falklands to choose which nation they belong to, and the people want to be under British rule. It's not surprising really since Argentina has had a failing economy for quite some time now.
Its a British Island, and just because theres oil there Argentina suddenly want it........
gtfo of our island...
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;25338159]Tomorrows news:
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The Sun. Makes me Embarrassed to be English.
[QUOTE=Red Toaster;25338052]well they kinda are acting imperialistic when it comes to the falkland islands[/QUOTE]
It's been a British Territory for 177 years.
It's funny. Haven't really heard anything substantial from Argentina about claiming sovereignty over the islands since the Falklands war. But now that we've discovered oil, they all of a sudden make a big fuss again. The islands are a British territory, the populace want it to remain that way and the British governemnt has made it very clear that it [I]will[/I] remain that way.
can't say I support the Brits here, but they won it fair and square in a fight, the Argentines also have every right to take it back off them if they can.
[QUOTE=Mabus;25338379]can't say I support the Brits here, but they won it fair and square in a fight, the Argentines also have every right to take it back off them if they can.[/QUOTE]
Well if by fair and square you mean completely decimated then yes.
Seriously though, this island has been under British rule for over a century. It's not as if this is an oppressed people that have a cultural identity. It's an island that has ~3000 people on it. It's British and will stay that way.
Also the Argentinians don't have a right to take it back. They way you say it makes it seem as if war is a game. It'll cost human lives and huge resources, and technically it needs to be approved by the UN (which in this case is obviously not).
British imperialism? More like Argentine imperialism. Hell, didn't the Argentines try to "Argentinify" the Islanders by making Spanish the official language and completely controlling the radio stations to play propaganda?
Cristina Fernandez should stop trying a rule a country and get back in the kitchen to make me a sammich
:britain:
About time we exercised the HMS Daring in combat, no?
Kidding. I don't want any more fighting anywhere, my grandfather fought after the Falklands war, his boat took a hit from an Exocet or something I believe. He's alive but it must have been close enough. I wish the Argentinians would just give up, we're British - they ain't having the Falklands if we have to sink them to stop it.
England... don't screw with it unless ur american
[QUOTE=Mabus;25338379]can't say I support the Brits here, but they won it fair and square in a fight, the Argentines also have every right to take it back off them if they can.[/QUOTE]
Argentina:
649 killed
1,068 wounded
11,313 taken prisoner
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1 cruiser
1 submarine
4 cargo vessels
2 patrol boats
1 spy trawler
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25 helicopters
35 fighters
2 bombers
4 transports
25 COIN aircraft
9 armed trainers
Great Britain:
258 killed[5]
775 wounded
115 taken prisoner
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2 destroyers
2 frigates
1 LSL landing ship
1 LCU amphibious craft
1 container ship
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24 helicopters
10 fighters
The Falkland Islanders want to be British, not Argentinian. A country's nationality should be determined by it's population, not some douche foreign power.
What I'm saying is fuck you Argentina
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;25338159]Tomorrows news:
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"Hey! Thousands of people just died! Isn't this AWESOME?"
In war people die, that's acceptable. But those sailors were killed outside the war zone, they were not trying to kill anyone. If they were engaged in combat, then it's fair play, but killing them in cold blood is simply wrong. The fact that The Sun celebrated the fact is sickening.
Still, thousands of husbands and fathers dying pointlessly in a needless war. Not like we've heard that before.
The thing is, the whole "hurr imperialism" thing is just plain stupid. What, we took a few islands in the South Atlantic a couple of years ago. So what? First of all, wars happen and borders change. That is how the world works, and it has been happening throughout history. By Argentina's logic (if you can call it that), Argentina and Spain (since I might as well argue the case for Gibraltar while I am at it) shouldn't exist. Secondly, Imperialism is marching across the globe and sticking a flag into any piece of land that isn't a) already occupied or b) occupied by people unable to stop you. Imperialism is [b]not[/b] maintaining a handful of overseas territories which are British at the choice of the inhabitants.
I love how on the one hand people say the British Empire is dead, yet then accuse Britain so frequently of continuing to be imperialistic. To me, those two ideas seem to contradict each other.
It's called 'cheap vote winning'. I guess the Argentines president is getting a slump in opinion polls.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;25339167]"Hey! Thousands of people just died! Isn't this AWESOME?"
In war people die, that's acceptable. But those sailors were killed outside the war zone, they were not trying to kill anyone. If they were engaged in combat, then it's fair play, but killing them in cold blood is simply wrong. The fact that The Sun celebrated the fact is sickening.
Still, thousands of husbands and fathers dying pointlessly in a needless war. Not like we've heard that before.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, what? We were at WAR. It doesn't matter where they were (And I'm assuming you referring to the Argentine ship that was sunk by a British sub). They formed part of Argentina's military, and were a valid target. End of.
Well pirates DO wear royal navy jackets.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;25339167]"Hey! Thousands of people just died! Isn't this AWESOME?"
In war people die, that's acceptable. But those sailors were killed outside the war zone, they were not trying to kill anyone. If they were engaged in combat, then it's fair play, but killing them in cold blood is simply wrong. The fact that The Sun celebrated the fact is sickening.
Still, thousands of husbands and fathers dying pointlessly in a needless war. Not like we've heard that before.[/QUOTE]
You are aware that the Argentinians actually tried to launch an attack on Gibraltar, right? It failed, thankfully, as they were caught, but why are they exempt from this 'war zone'.
Also, the Belgrano was en route to attack the British fleet. They had every right to sink it - not that it being an enemy vessel wasn't enough of one.
But I agree it was a pointless war. The Argentinians shouldn't have started it.
My message to a Argentine:
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[QUOTE=iusehax;25339944]My message to a Argentine:
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To be honest, I couldn't care less about those islands. I've said it before and I'll say it again; if it was up to me, I'd forget about those fucking islands once and for all.
But assholes like her won't stop acting all butthurt about it.
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