BPI asks BT to block The Pirate Bay under precedent of the Newzbin2 case or face court action in 14

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[quote=The Telegraph]The BPI, a record industry lobby group, has asked BT to voluntarily embargo the website following a landmark High Court victory for the film industry. Hollywood studios successfully sued BT to block access to Newzbin2, another website involved in copyright infringement.
In a letter yesterday, [b]the BPI gave BT 14 days to respond to its request before it would [highlight]launch a similar action[/highlight].[/b]
“Now that the High Court has clarified the law, as a sector we need to keep up the pressure on these illegal sites,” said John Smith, general secretary of the Musicians’ Union and deputy chair of the Creative Coalition Campaign.
“For too long The Pirate Bay has been allowed to attack the livelihoods of individual artists and session musicians. We hope that BT will voluntarily block this prolific, illegal site.”
The Pirate Bay has been at the front line in the battle between the record and film industries and unlawful downloaders for eight years. It was founded by Swedish anti-copyright activists and acts as an index of files available via BitTorrent, a peer-to-peer filesharing network.
The website has resisted several attempts by record labels to close it down directly and become a totem for their critics. The request to BT marks an attempt to simply block users from accessing it, a strategy the industry is pursuing across Europe, with some success in Denmark, Ireland, Italy, Belgium and Sweden.
“It is crucial that the creative sector keeps up the momentum of getting internet companies to do their bit in tackling illegal sites,” said Richard Mollet, chief executive of the Publishers Association.
“The law is clear: the Pirate Bay is illegal, it can and should be stopped,” he added.
The BPI said it wrote to the Pirate Bay over summer with a request to remove links to a list of 1,000 pirated songs and albums, but got no response. Its chief executive Geoff Taylor said the website was "no more than a huge scam on the global creative sector".
A spokesman for BT indicated it would not voluntarily block the Pirate Bay.
"We can confirm we are now in receipt of a letter from the BPI. BT is considering its response," he said.
"In line with the Newzbin judgment, a court order will be needed before any blocking could begin. BT is currently focused on implementation of that order."
The High Court order for BT to block access to Newzbin2 was widely viewed as a legal landmark.
It showed that internet service providers could be held responsible for copyright infringement via their networks under existing law. Under the Human Rights Act, the judge found that the film industry's right to protect their property outweighed the rights to free expression of BT and its subscribers.
The film industry has said it hopes other major internet service providers will block access to Newzbin2 without further court action. BT has cut off access using Cleanfeed, a system developed to block websites that distribute images of child abuse.[/quote]
[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/8869645/Record-labels-demand-BT-blocks-access-to-the-Pirate-Bay.html]Source (The Telegraph)[/url]

Oh no, my access to Ubuntu is going to be impaired!

[lukepker]

Well, I'm glad I just got off of BT.

[Jasun]

BT is terrible anyway.

[Terminutter]

BT is terrible, but it's still a bad thing if it's done, as it furthers a precident. (the precident being that Newzbin case)

[st_nick5]

Look at them wasting their money. It won't do a thing to prevent piracy.

[Techno-Man]

Would these record groups ever fuck off already trying to block sites and restrict freedom.

[Mr. Bleak]

Obligatory "Pirating music only hurts record labels and those that have already made it big whilst making lesser known bands much more popular".

[Chryseus]

Like blocking sites is ever going to be effective..
Seriously are these people that retarded in thinking this will do anything other than piss people off ?

[Jsm]

Isn't this sort of blocking really easy to get around by switching your DNS to google or OpenDNS?

[Cush]

[QUOTE=Jsm;33119308]Isn't this sort of blocking really easy to get around by switching your DNS to google or OpenDNS?[/QUOTE]

I'm on BT and I cant get on Newzbin with the Google DNS.

Generic proxy sites work though.

[Strontboer]

Fuck your shit BPI. I download ALL THE TIME.

Yeah that's right, I download fucking hundreds of GB each month worth of movies. Go suck a dick, you'll never be able to control the internet.

[b]Oh and mod, before you ban me for warez, Downloading movies is legal where I come from.[/b]

[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Maybe, but it's not allowed on Facepunch." - Orkel))[/highlight]

[matt.ant]

BT are always being sued and always losing, but they never do anything. I'm on BT and can get on Newzbin just fine

[Cush]

[QUOTE=matt.ant;33119674]BT are always being sued and always losing, but they never do anything. I'm on BT and can get on Newzbin just fine[/QUOTE]

Really? I cant...It just says 'Error - Blocked'

[Scotty.]

BPI can lick my anus.

[rhx123]

It will take all of a minute for a pirate to get on tpb anyway. And besides, it's all abit silly as it doesn't block the downloading of files anyway, so the download doesn't even need to go through a proxy server.

There is also legitmate content on TPB; while I accept a large proportion is illegal stuff, I have downloaded things such as desktop wallpaper packs which are perfectly legal on there.

Not that I'm on bt anyway :v:

[AK'z]

[QUOTE=Djessey;33119650]
[b]Oh and mod, before you ban me for warez, Downloading movies is legal where I come from.[/b]
[/QUOTE]

Dude, you know what happens when you act sarcastic to a mod.

[Miskav]

[QUOTE=AK'z;33125205]Dude, you know what happens when you act sarcastic to a mod.[/QUOTE]

Not sarcasm though, it's the truth.

[rrkpp_]

[QUOTE=AK'z;33125205]Dude, you know what happens when you act sarcastic to a mod.[/QUOTE]

Oh stop, everyone knows the mods are [i]soooooo[/i] cool and understanding

There's [i]noooooo[/i] way they would ban you for sarcasm!

[Lambda 217]

Why are they offering them fourteen days? Could it be that trying to get TPB censored would be difficult?

[Zard]

[quote]The BPI said it wrote to the Pirate Bay over summer with a request to remove links to a list of 1,000 pirated songs and albums, but got no response. Its chief executive Geoff Taylor said the website was "no more than a huge scam on the global creative sector".[/quote]

this made me laugh, as if they think that TPB would even respond to them, no only that but to say they think they're pulling a huge scam is a joke, the reason so many people go to a place like TPB is because they feel that they're being scammed of their money by paying so much for music

[rhx123]

[QUOTE=tepholman;33125441]Why are they offering them fourteen days? Could it be that trying to get TPB censored would be difficult?[/QUOTE]
Censoring TBP against pretty much everyone who knows how to use bittorent is near enough impossible.

[Bobie]

[QUOTE=Djessey;33119650]Fuck your shit BPI. I download ALL THE TIME.

Yeah that's right, I download fucking hundreds of GB each month worth of movies. Go suck a dick, you'll never be able to control the internet.

[B]Oh and mod, before you ban me for warez, Downloading movies is legal where I come from.[/B]

[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Maybe, but it's not allowed on Facepunch." - Orkel))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
i kinda hope this guy gets caught or something, because it's assholes like that who ruin entire creative industries for their own personal greed- and it's the same kind of people who are going to get tpb taken down for good one day

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=Bobie;33126723]i kinda hope this guy gets caught or something, because it's assholes like that who ruin entire creative industries for their own personal greed- and it's the same kind of people who are going to get tpb taken down for good one day[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bobie;33126723]get tpb taken down for good one day[/QUOTE]

Hah

Hahah

Oh you're so funny.

And if you're serious then trust me, if TPB one day bows under, then there'll just be 2 other tracker sites to take it's place.

[Bobie]

[QUOTE=Van-man;33127086]Hah

Hahah

Oh you're so funny.

And if you're serious then trust me, if TPB one day bows under, then there'll just be 2 other tracker sites to take it's place.[/QUOTE]

it's not necessarily that tpb would get taken down, it's that if piracy continues to grow like it has been doing so for the last 10 years (i mean come on, who do you know now that hasn't downloaded an album from a bittorrent site now? i remember a few years back it was only a select few that did), it's that people will become so inclined to pirate everything at some stage that you'll just end up with shit games, music and movies with fuckloads of annoying protection, with the occasional underground guy that can never truly make it because of a scared/fearful industry

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=Bobie;33127129]it's not necessarily that tpb would get taken down, it's that if piracy continues to grow like it has been doing so for the last 10 years (i mean come on, who do you know now that hasn't downloaded an album from a bittorrent site now? i remember a few years back it was only a select few that did), it's that people will become so inclined to pirate everything at some stage that you'll just end up with shit games, music and movies with fuckloads of annoying protection, with the occasional underground guy that can never truly make it because of a scared/fearful industry[/QUOTE]

Simple, make it cheaper and easier for a customer to obtain what they want legally.
The music industry is bloated and inefficient nowadays, and it's only recently they've realized that.

[Cypher_09]

[QUOTE=Bobie;33126723]i kinda hope this guy gets caught or something, because it's assholes like that who ruin entire creative industries for their own personal greed- and it's the same kind of people who are going to get tpb taken down for good one day[/QUOTE]

[h2]Sweet irony:[/h2]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1136971?p=33059412&highlight=#post33059412[/url]

[sHiBaN]

If anything at all, piracy helps the popularity of said works of art as it enables more people to enjoy it.

That and because of bloated industries, its harder for the average consumer today to enjoy such trivialities. But can you really call it art when its main purpose is to generate revenue? That is the ultimate question

[Bobie]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;33127483][h2]Sweet irony:[/h2]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1136971?p=33059412&highlight=#post33059412[/url][/QUOTE]

you caught me saying 'how do i downlod', congratulations- but i fail to see the irony in that

[quote]Simple, make it cheaper and easier for a customer to obtain what they want legally.
The music industry is bloated and inefficient nowadays, and it's only recently they've realized that.[/quote]

well, in my experience it's only really the mainstream downloading sites that seem to rip you off i.e itunes and beatport, but it's not exactly difficult to obtain music now (legally). if you consider making a few clicks uneasy, then i fear for how people felt in the days where vinyl was all; and i understand for those who don't really enjoy music THAT much to pirate some, but please if you love a game, movie, software program or anything i urge you to buy it.

i don't expect to change anyone's opinion on piracy or even expect anyone to buy any pirated software they like out of what i've said, but im just saying that for the sheer time and effort that goes into the industries that fuel your entertainment, there are those who ought to give a little back

[jaykray]

I'm with BT, the router constantly disconnects and the dl/ul speeds aren't good. Can anyone recommend a good ISP?

[conco]

this is like poking a bear to make it go away. its just going to get angrier.

if they arent going to kill it all at once (which is impossible at the moment), then play dead and hope they go away