• Labour leadership election will kick off on Monday, Angela Eagle to challenge Corbyn
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[img]http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/8CFD/production/_90339063_7d18390c-14e4-455f-90b6-1fd1a094542e.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36753769[/url] [quote]Angela Eagle has said she will announce a bid for the leadership of the Labour Party on Monday. It comes after Tom Watson called off talks with unions aimed at resolving the stand-off at the top of the party. The deputy leader said Jeremy Corbyn's declaration that he would continue as leader "come what may" meant there was "no realistic prospect of reaching a compromise" over his future. Mr Corbyn has urged the party to "come together".[/quote] 3 leadership elections 1 country
I doubt anything will come of it, it's impossible to get rid of Corbyn when he has his cult of personality protecting him at every moment.
There is reason to think that it [I]might[/I] not be the instant slam-dunk that you'd expect - Corbyn is [url=http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9731]significantly down in polling[/url] among Labour Party members. But he still wins fairly handily in hypothetical match-ups, and none of this even matters if thousands of Corbyn supporters sign up just to vote him in again.
Saw worrying number of Daily Mail comments were encouraging registering and voting for Corbyn in an effort to make labour unelectable, really not sure how sincere these comments were, still found it weird that there were so many and with many upvotes.
[QUOTE=chumchum;50679023]Saw worrying number of Daily Mail comments were encouraging registering and voting for Corbyn in an effort to make labour unelectable, really not sure how sincere these comments were, still found it weird that there were so many and with many upvotes.[/QUOTE] This is why you don't give the membership all the deciding power like Ed Miliband did.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;50679031]This is why you don't give the membership all the deciding power like Ed Miliband did.[/QUOTE] But the party knows best!!
This is very embarrassing at this stage. She's been doing this shit for weeks. It's that sort of "look out, i'm gonna do it any second now!" that schoolground children do. It was going to happen last Monday. And the Thursday before that. How long does she want to wait? It doesn't really help that she's about as appealing as leftover cereal.
[QUOTE=Mesothere;50679201]This is very embarrassing at this stage. She's been doing this shit for weeks. It's that sort of "look out, i'm gonna do it any second now!" that schoolground children do. It was going to happen last Monday. And the Thursday before that. How long does she want to wait? It doesn't really help that she's about as appealing as leftover cereal.[/QUOTE] Tom Watson [url=http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/07/jeremy-corbyn-opponents-hold-off-challenge-to-allow-talks]asked prospective leadership contenders to hold off[/url] while he tried to negotiate a compromise, but it failed.
If Corbyn had an ounce of sense, he would have resigned weeks ago. Because at the moment he's not just letting the Labour Party become divided - his continued hold on the leadership is actively encouraging it. He can't claim he still has a mandate because 'he was elected by the party' - because circumstances have changed so much since he was elected, and he has no political capital left whatsoever.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50679274]Tom Watson [url=http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/07/jeremy-corbyn-opponents-hold-off-challenge-to-allow-talks]asked prospective leadership contenders to hold off[/url] while he tried to negotiate a compromise, but it failed.[/QUOTE] They're all working together. So why has there been so much miscommunication? Angela has a twitter account called Angela4leader and she's constantly been announcing and delaying.
[QUOTE=sb27;50679346]If Corbyn had an ounce of sense, he would have resigned weeks ago. Because at the moment he's not just letting the Labour Party become divided - his continued hold on the leadership is actively encouraging it. He can't claim he still has a mandate because 'he was elected by the party' - because circumstances have changed so much since he was elected, and he has no political capital left whatsoever.[/QUOTE] The problem is that the challenge to Corbyn's leadership is going to make the Labour party irrelevant. It is literally the career politicians at its top trying to hijack the party away from what the people who want to vote Labour want. Its New Labour Tory-Lite arseholes trying to save their own little skins completely unaware that they're going to wreck Labour even more than it is already.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;50679417]The problem is that the challenge to Corbyn's leadership is going to make the Labour party irrelevant. It is literally the career politicians at its top trying to hijack the party away from what the people who want to vote Labour want. Its New Labour Tory-Lite arseholes trying to save their own little skins completely unaware that they're going to wreck Labour even more than it is already.[/QUOTE] i honestly think corbyn will win the leadership election in a landslide. but then what are you going to do when he performs historically bad in the next general?
[QUOTE=Craigewan;50679417]The problem is that the challenge to Corbyn's leadership is going to make the Labour party irrelevant. It is literally the career politicians at its top trying to hijack the party away from what the people who want to vote Labour want. Its New Labour Tory-Lite arseholes trying to save their own little skins completely unaware that they're going to wreck Labour even more than it is already.[/QUOTE] More like the hard left have hijacked the party and are driving it into irrelevancy. The hard left have always been a thorn in labours side, attacking any leader that doesn't adhere to their orthodoxy, because apparently they don't understand compromise. They did the same to Clement Attlee and Harold Wilson, they left the party unelected for 18 years and now they're back to do it again.
who the fuck would honestly want angela eagle running labour, if they think corbyns unelectable wtf makes them think she's any more electable? she's a damp cloth.
The interesting thing is that the last time both major parties held leadership elections in the same year was 1955 iirc. Just for perspective as to how monumental this is. Angela Eagle is terrible though, she's the only person with even less charisma than Corbyn. Infact she makes Corbyn look like Blair by comparison.
Corbyn isn't going anywhere and that's a damn good thing. If Labour become another Tory-lite party like they were with Blair, the damage the conservatives have already done won't just go undone, it'll be continued.
[QUOTE=Marzipas;50679884]who the fuck would honestly want angela eagle running labour, if they think corbyns unelectable wtf makes them think she's any more electable? she's a damp cloth.[/QUOTE] Yeah, none of this makes any sense whatsoever. They blame Corbyn for us losing the EU referendum (????????) and then they call him unelectable so they put up Angela Eagle of all people to somehow be this unifying force? Please. Really, none of this situation makes any sense. It's like how they keep trying to get him for anti Semitism. Like when he said "jewish people aren't responsibly for the actions of Israel any more than Muslims are responsible for the actions of IS" and every major news outlet (even the bbc) reported it as 'CORBYN MASSIVE ANTI SEMITE THINKS ISRAEL IS AS BAD AS IS' This is the establishment jumping on anything they can to try and get Corbyn out and they've been planning it since he became leader and have been looking for any excuse to do it - it's not like some decision they carefully came to after long deliberations based off his actual performance as leader. Frankly, I think Labour's shootings itself in the foot putting forward anyone who voted for the Iraq war. They need to put that era behind them and start focusing on bringing a credible alternative to austerity, which is what Corbyn would be doing effectively right now (and was already doing quite effectively for months if you look at the actual list of acts that Labour played a big part stopped since Corbyn became leader) if he wasn't having to spend his time fighting off the right of his party. [editline]9th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Menien Goneld;50679915]Corbyn isn't going anywhere and that's a damn good thing. If Labour become another Tory-lite party like they were with Blair, the damage the conservatives have already done won't just go undone, it'll be continued.[/QUOTE] Yeah sure. It's no coincidence that turnout experienced is biggest drop since the second world war when Labour lurched to centre/centre-right under Blair. They abandoned the working class to appeal to middle England and the tory press. And sure it worked for a little while, but look at where that's ended us up - a massive recession, massive austerity in response to that, the hijacking of the one solid left wing alternative in British politics, and a legacy of war. No thanks.
I don't think there's much appetite for super-strictly centre ground politics anymore.
Honestly anyone who claims that Corbyn is unelectable hasn't seen the amount of support he has from the trade unions. People are sick of getting shafted and not having their voices heard because Labour is too busy chasing after Conservative voters or whatever. I saw him speak today so I'm quite bias, but he really does seem like a return to form for the party. Standing up for the working class, which is what Labour should be. Also he's had overwhelming support in every by-election so far so, not sure what Eagle expects.
Angela Eagle's constituency party held a vote of no confidence in her at a constituency meeting, and she lost [u]unanimously[/u] lol Didn't see that reported anywhere though They're furious with her. Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to actually deselect her before the election
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;50680054]Angela Eagle's constituency party held a vote of no confidence in her at a constituency meeting, and she lost [u]unanimously[/u] lol Didn't see that reported anywhere though They're furious with her. Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to actually deselect her before the election[/QUOTE] The constituency party can bugger off, I voted for Angela knowing her policy as did probably many others, but despite all their cries over democracy they're very happy to invalidate the constituents democracy.
Eagle also came fourth in the deputy leadership vote, she's even less electable than Corbyn. Not to mention her voting history...
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