Obama sets Congress a climate change ultimatum. - Polidicks

[TABLE="class: outer_border, width: 600, align: left"] [TR] [TD][TABLE="width: 550, align: left"] [TR] [TD][h2]Obama sets Congress a climate change ultimatum.[/h2][B]US President Barack Obama on Tuesday gave Congress an ultimatum on climate change: craft a plan to slash greenhouse gas emissions and adapt to the dangers of a warming world, or the White House will go it alone.[/B][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][TABLE="width: 400, align: center"] [TR] [TD="align: center"][quote][IMG]http://images.smh.com.au/2013/02/09/4019865/US storm1-620x349.jpg[/IMG][/quote][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][TABLE="width: 550, align: center"] [TR] [TD]"If Congress won't act soon to protect future generations, I will," Obama said in his State of the Union address. "I will direct my Cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy." Congress should consider putting a price on climate-warming carbon emissions, Obama said, briefly nodding to his failed, first-term plan to confront climate change. Republican opposition means the president's best chance to confront the issue will mean flexing executive power. He vowed to push for more and cheaper solar and wind energy, and pledged to cut red tape to encourage more drilling for domestic natural gas, which Obama said had driven down fuel prices in the United States.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]SOURCE: [/B] [URL]http://www.smh.com.au/business/carbon-economy/obama-sets-congress-a-climate-change-ultimatum-20130213-2edg6.html[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

Fuck yeah second term presidents!

Good on him

I have plenty of natural gas. And with some baked beans I'd have even more.

[QUOTE=Lizzrd;39573128]Fuck yeah second term presidents![/QUOTE] yeah man bush is my fave

[QUOTE=BrosefStachin;39573147]I have plenty of natural gas. And with some baked beans I'd have even more.[/QUOTE] What are you, ten?

My car gets 50mpg, so I'm doing my part!

I have an idea Obama. How about you buy me a nice new car so I can stop driving my POS 20 year old car that gets 10 gallons to the mile. The only reason we have this problem is because you practically have to take out a housing loan to buy a new fucking car in this country.

Meanwhile on Fox: "OBAMA HOLDING CONSTITUTION AND ECONOMY HOSTAGE FOR RADICAL CLIMATE BELIEFS" Good for him.

First opinion on the title was "Turn the thermostat down [I]or you're fired."[/I]

I hope he means vertical drilling for natural gas, a lot of places are drilling at angles and causing serious problems in some communities. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBjSXWQRV8[/media]

i hope this goes somewhere

[QUOTE=imptastick;39574944]I hope he means vertical drilling for natural gas, a lot of places are drilling at angles and causing serious problems in some communities. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBjSXWQRV8[/media][/QUOTE] As far as I can remember it's not the actual drilling or drilling method that cause that, it's poor containment of the run off type shit that they keep in huge pools near the drilling sites, it's contaminated water that's just left sitting around and without properly constructed pools it just seeps into the local water table and aquifers. Read it a while ago and I can't remember where so feel free to disregard it but that's what my memory is saying.

[QUOTE=imptastick;39574944]I hope he means vertical drilling for natural gas, a lot of places are drilling at angles and causing serious problems in some communities. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBjSXWQRV8[/media][/QUOTE] Care to explain how the drilling at angles causes problem, as a person studying Geology at A level nobody's ever told me it causes problems it just makes it easier to get to if there's something in the way that's hard to get around.

[QUOTE=draugur;39574707]I have an idea Obama. How about you buy me a nice new car so I can stop driving my POS 20 year old car that gets 10 gallons to the mile. The only reason we have this problem is because you practically have to take out a housing loan to buy a new fucking car in this country.[/QUOTE] Cars cost practically nothing in the US. Your problem is that your public transport is lacking, and that bicycling generally isn't a viable alternative to taking the car.

[QUOTE=Cats meow;39575000]Care to explain how the drilling at angles causes problem, as a person studying Geology at A level nobody's ever told me it causes problems it just makes it easier to get to if there's something in the way that's hard to get around.[/QUOTE] I was taught this in one of my ecology classes last year. Apparently when they drill at an angle they cause cracks in the containing layers that allows the gas to move up into wells. Because they are drilling over a larger area when going in at an angle there is more cracks over a wider area increasing the amount that leaks upward. This seems to visualize it pretty well. [img]http://today.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/fracking.jpg[/img]

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[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;39575171]snip[/QUOTE] Gas is super cheap in the U.S. compared to, say. England - their prices are hovering at around $10 a gallon now. I can fill up my car for just under $3/gallon in the U.S.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39575078]Cars cost practically nothing in the US. Your problem is that your public transport is lacking, and that bicycling generally isn't a viable alternative to taking the car.[/QUOTE] because $20,000 is "nothing " that's double my untaxed income

[QUOTE=areolop;39575275]because $20,000 is "nothing " that's double my untaxed income[/QUOTE] Yeah, meanwhile everything is cheaper regarding cars in the U.S. we have to use them so frequently that we really don't save money.

Honestly, I'm not that comfortable with Obama's current attitude of "Well, fuck all y'all, I'll executive order everything I want". I realize it's necessary because Congress is the worst group of do-nothing assholes on the planet, but the executive branch has essentially no limits on it's power nowadays.

[QUOTE=areolop;39575275]because $20,000 is "nothing " that's double my untaxed income[/QUOTE] To be fair you can get a used car on craigslist for like 2 grand and under

I wonder if he's going to turn the whitehouse into a greenhouse

Fun fact: Climate change is completely neutral and unavoidable,sadly this seems to be forgotten But lack of greenhouse gas would be nice

[QUOTE=imptastick;39575104]I was taught this in one of my ecology classes last year. Apparently when they drill at an angle they cause cracks in the containing layers that allows the gas to move up into wells. Because they are drilling over a larger area when going in at an angle there is more cracks over a wider area increasing the amount that leaks upward. This seems to visualize it pretty well. [img]http://today.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/fracking.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51wOisfdIPo[/media]

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39575358]To be fair you can get a used car on craigslist for like 2 grand and under[/QUOTE] It's probably not going to be great in terms of mechanical condition, fuel economy or whatnot, and it still has to be licensed and insured.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;39575358]To be fair you can get a used car on craigslist for like 2 grand and under[/QUOTE] you can buy anythibg for cheap. we would be making the assumption that we are shopping for new cars

[QUOTE=areolop;39575430]you can buy anythibg for cheap. we would be making the assumption that we are shopping for new cars[/QUOTE] Are brand new cars super cheap in some other country? I was under the assumption cars just cost a lot regardless of national policy

Hey look, more "powerful" words and ultimatum that means completely nothing.

I bet a bunch of them are actually angry that he's making them make important decisions.