• Trying to move to Denmark, what are my options?
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Hey guys, so I am an American citizen trying to move to Denmark with my Danish girlfriend. We have looked up several options and I will include them below. So far, the only way I would be able to go is if I am vouched for by an employer in Denmark, or if I whip out the big money and decided to go to a University or a Folk High School, both of which are pretty expensive. As of now, I do not have much money, and am saving up as much as possible so that if all else fails, I can at least try and pay my way to a Folk High school. We also figured that different Scandinavian countries have different laws, so starting up somewhere else such as Norway or Sweden could also be a possibility. I am extremely open to anything as of the time being, and only have until August to figure out what I am going to do. I would very much appreciate the help guys. Options: -Folk High School or University (Big $$$) -Work (References and Luck) -Illegal (NOT a serious option) [b]EDIT:[/b] Found some other options: -Au Pair -Work somewhere else in Europe and slowly inch my way to Denmark
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Well seeing as you're an American, you'll have a good chance of slipping in. The easiest way is marriage, otherwise you'll have to wait in order to become a danish citizen (I think it's 8 years or so) Then there's alternative ways, such as moving to sweden for a couple of years, then move to Denmark for 1 year and become a danish citizen. (A bit sneaky, might not work anymore I'd say check out [url]http://denmark.dk[/url]
[QUOTE=Tools;40987720]Well seeing as you're an American, you'll have a good chance of slipping in. The easiest way is marriage, otherwise you'll have to wait in order to become a danish citizen (I think it's 8 years or so) Then there's alternative ways, such as moving to sweden for a couple of years, then move to Denmark for 1 year and become a danish citizen. (A bit sneaky, might not work anymore I'd say check out [url]http://denmark.dk[/url][/QUOTE] You can only get allowed in by marriage if you're over 25. Becoming a danish citizen is NOT an option for you as it requires: "From June 15, 2013 new rules apply for getting the Danish citizenship. You need to have passed the Danish exam Dansk Prøve 2 or 3, passed the citizenship test, lived in DK for 9 years, and worked 2,5 years in the last 5 years.". ..and even [b]IF[/b] you became a citizen in the end, you have to think about what would happen if you broke up. In Denmark you can't have multi-citizenship unless your parents are from two different countries, so you'd have to essentially give up your previous citizenship. Some good websites for info: [url]http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/work/[/url] [url]http://www.foreignersindenmark.dk/[/url] That said, if you don't have any education/work you can maximum stay in the country for 3 months (6 if you're looking for a job), and if you still don't find any job/education by then you're banned from the country for 6-12 months (I think - at least it was like that if you're from the EU). I'm sorry to sound so harsh and difficult, but it was tough enough getting my English girlfriend to move here (and she's from the EU!). I know how you feel. [b]Edit[/b]: Ah - found it: [url]http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/visa/visa.htm[/url] "A visa grants you the right to spend a maximum of 90 days per 6 months in the Schengen region. Read more about duration here If you remain in Denmark after your visa expires or if you attempt to use your visa stay to obtain permanent or long-term residency in Denmark, you can be given a penalty period of three or five years. During the penalty period you will not be able to obtain a visa to visit Denmark. Read more about misuse of a visa. A visa does not allow you to work in Denmark unless the Immigration Service has explicitly granted you this right." Oh - however: [url]http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/visa/need_visa/who_needs_visa.htm[/url] "If you are a citizen of one of the following countries, you do not need a visa in order to enter Denmark:" .. United Kingdom [b]United States[/b] Uruguay Vatican City State Venezuela .. [b]Another thing:[/b] Please do note that is very very difficult to find a job in Denmark when you don't speak the language. It's not impossible, it's just very difficult.
[QUOTE=h2ooooooo;40989918] "If you are a citizen of one of the following countries, you do not need a visa in order to enter Denmark:" [/QUOTE] Note about this: it doesn't actually mean you don't need a visa, it means you don't need to acquire a visa from a Danish embassy before arrival; you can get a 90-day visa at the airport (this is usually just a stamp in your passport, without any particular application requirements; don't know the details regarding Denmark). It does not apply to longer-term visas or let you get around the penalty-period if you overstayed or were otherwise deported.
How old are you?
dont come here, its full of old people
[QUOTE=Mikkelmann;40990588]How old are you?[/QUOTE] Unfortunately I am quite young, turning 20 in September.
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40991408]Unfortunately I am quite young, turning 20 in September.[/QUOTE] That's extremely young to consider moving halfway around the world just for a girlfriend. You two better be pretty damn serious about your relationship if you actually want this.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40991936]That's extremely young to consider moving halfway around the world just for a girlfriend. You two better be pretty damn serious about your relationship if you actually want this.[/QUOTE] Have never wanted anything more than to leave the United States with this woman. Been with her for over 5 years and she has already had experience living alone in both China and Norway. The biggest problem is I am not a skilled laborer (yet) and that I have an American passport, which puts me in a much more difficult position.
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are an american citizen, you never lose american citizenship. At least, that's how I understood it. Even if you got citizenship in another country, you still have american citizenship.
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40992435]Have never wanted anything more than to leave the United States with this woman. Been with her for over 5 years and she has already had experience living alone in both China and Norway. The biggest problem is I am not a skilled laborer (yet) and that I have an American passport, which puts me in a much more difficult position.[/QUOTE] You in schooling now? If so, I'd recommend finishing your schooling, and then move.
[QUOTE=Gnomical;40993470]Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are an american citizen, you never lose american citizenship. At least, that's how I understood it. Even if you got citizenship in another country, you still have american citizenship.[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he is a dual citizen of Denmark and the USA, wouldn't he have to pay taxes to the Danes and the US?
I don't think the Danish taxes apply if you're not in the country IE if your permanent adress isn't in the country you don't pay taxes, but I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Gnomical;40993470]Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are an american citizen, you never lose american citizenship. At least, that's how I understood it. Even if you got citizenship in another country, you still have american citizenship.[/QUOTE] It is possible to lose your American citizenship. I don't remember the exact way, but it is possible and it's more on you requesting citizenship to other places than the US government saying "Goodbye and don't come back".
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40992435]Have never wanted anything more than to leave the United States with this woman. Been with her for over 5 years and she has already had experience living alone in both China and Norway. The biggest problem is I am not a skilled laborer (yet) and that I have an American passport, which puts me in a much more difficult position.[/QUOTE] It's funny, I'm Danish and I want to go to the states more than anything. What part of Denmark are you considering moving to?
[QUOTE=Ferosso;40998106]It's funny, I'm Danish and I want to go to the states more than anything. What part of Denmark are you considering moving to?[/QUOTE] Copenhagen, although from what we have researched it seems to quite expensive. Maybe we should switch identities for a bit. If I may ask, why would you want to come here? [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40998002]It is possible to lose your American citizenship. I don't remember the exact way, but it is possible and it's more on you requesting citizenship to other places than the US government saying "Goodbye and don't come back".[/QUOTE] I would have to relinquish my American citizenship in order to obtain a Danish citizenship. From what I read, I need to wait until me and my partner are both 24 or older in order to begin the process. Even then, we need to live in Denmark for like 4-5 years. Only then will I be a Dane :D
Do you drink a lot of beer? [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] Because that's pretty much a requirement around here
[QUOTE=areolop;40995445]You in schooling now? If so, I'd recommend finishing your schooling, and then move.[/QUOTE] I took a semester off to work and figure how to go about this. Most universities suggest I finish two years of school before I go, but I figured that a year of a State university and a year of a community college isn't really that impressive. I'm still thinking about the folk high school, except I might au pair in Denmark so that I have somewhat of a grasp on the language. So bloody hard to understand sometimes lol. [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=EvacX;40998664]Do you drink a lot of beer? [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] Because that's pretty much a requirement around here[/QUOTE] Yep, am quite fond of a good pint. Except I live in the US so I wouldn't really know a good pint haha
[QUOTE=EvacX;40998664]Do you drink a lot of beer? [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] Because that's pretty much a requirement around here[/QUOTE] Been there, done that, gone drunk driving, got the t-shirt. You know shit's about to hit the fan when you start your weekend binge drinking on a Thursday :v:
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40998778]Yep, am quite fond of a good pint. Except I live in the US so I wouldn't really know a good pint haha[/QUOTE] There's tons of great beer in the states if you're not buy mass produced shit like budweiser.
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40998606]Copenhagen, although from what we have researched it seems to quite expensive. Maybe we should switch identities for a bit. If I may ask, why would you want to come here? [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] I would have to relinquish my American citizenship in order to obtain a Danish citizenship. From what I read, I need to wait until me and my partner are both 24 or older in order to begin the process. Even then, we need to live in Denmark for like 4-5 years. Only then will I be a Dane :D[/QUOTE] Gladly! As a matter of fact I live in Copenhagen. Denmark can be a very boring (in lack of better words) place to be, at times. The greatness of everything in the states is what appeals to me. I want to go to a warm state, like CA, because of the weather, the culture, the scenery and many other things. It just appeals to me, as Denmark is a very small country with a lot of things made (if it's even being done) in a very small scale. Don't get me wrong, it's a great country. In the summer. The winter here kills me. What are you expecting to experience/do here? If you eventually end up going here, I'd gladly give you a tour.
Get a bike if you're there. I hear it's bike friendliest nation.
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40998778]I took a semester off to work and figure how to go about this. Most universities suggest I finish two years of school before I go, but I figured that a year of a State university and a year of a community college isn't really that impressive. I'm still thinking about the folk high school, except I might au pair in Denmark so that I have somewhat of a grasp on the language. So bloody hard to understand sometimes lol. [editline]11th June 2013[/editline] Yep, am quite fond of a good pint. Except I live in the US so I wouldn't really know a good pint haha[/QUOTE] Have you ever been to Denmark? Because then there is a few things that you should consider before moving here: The winter is long and depressing and our nature is not very impressive at all. The country is very flat, and most of it have been farmland for centuries. Taxes are high and cars are extremely expensive, so it is ridiculously expensive moving here. Living in Copenhagen or Aarhus is expensive, you should expect to pay at least 3000DKK/334USD a month per person for a shared rented flat in a proper location in Aarhus. If you want to live cheaper you can get student housing further away from the city centre. You should get a job or a study job right away to help you out, because our minimum wage is very high. People are very informal, open minded and friendly, and generally like to drink alot, especially students. You can joke about [I]everything.[/I] Danes are very good at english, but if you want to live here and get a citizenship, you are litterately forced to learn the language. Denmark is a very small country, so many of the stores, shops and items you can find in the regular towns in the States can only be found in copenhagen or not at all, because we have stricter regulations on what can be put in food and so on. [editline]12th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41002144]Get a bike if you're there. I hear it's bike friendliest nation.[/QUOTE] Owning a bike is a must if you live in any of the larger cities.
Be prepared for the nutcases that drive around here, friend of mine had some family from the US over a few years back and they said we all drive like american cab drivers :v:
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;40998606] I would have to relinquish my American citizenship in order to obtain a Danish citizenship. From what I read, I need to wait until me and my partner are both 24 or older in order to begin the process. Even then, we need to live in Denmark for like 4-5 years. Only then will I be a Dane :D[/QUOTE] Huh, that sounds surprisingly easy. [editline]12th June 2013[/editline] By the way, you've said your girlfriend has lived in other places before. Is there anything specific about you two living in Denmark or is it possible she could move to somewhere else in Europe and you follow there, preferably somewhere easier to obtain a citizenship?
If you want to move to Norway first: [url]http://professional.player.qbrick.com/player.aspx?mid=02DD1999[/url] [editline]12th June 2013[/editline] Also: If your girlfriend know danish well, after 5 years in USA, that would be helpful for reading Norwegian documents, as they are close to identical.
You can live in a dumpster in Brøndby Strand It's free
[QUOTE=Crimor;41006058]Be prepared for the nutcases that drive around here, friend of mine had some family from the US over a few years back and they said we all drive like american cab drivers :v:[/QUOTE] Can't be worse than the Americans who don't realise what those turning lights are for.
[QUOTE=Gnomical;40993470]Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are an american citizen, you never lose american citizenship. At least, that's how I understood it. Even if you got citizenship in another country, you still have american citizenship.[/QUOTE] As far as I've researched, _Denmark_ will make you give up your previous citizenship to become a Danish citizen. I don't know exactly how it works (do they rip your passport or contact the US government?)
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