California woman charged with sending money to Pakistan to help fund attacks on US military - Polidicks

[release] LOS ANGELES — A California woman was indicted on federal charges alleging she sent money to Pakistan to help fund terrorist attacks against U.S. military personnel, authorities said. Oytun Ayse Mihalik, 39, of La Palma, was named Wednesday in a four-count indictment. She faces three counts of providing material support to terrorists and one count of making a false statement. Mihalik could face up to 53 years in prison if convicted of all charges. [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/apnewsbreak-oc-woman-charged-with-providing-money-to-fund-terrorist-attacks-on-us-military/2011/12/21/gIQAVSzBAP_allComments.html#comments"]6[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/apnewsbreak-oc-woman-charged-with-providing-money-to-fund-terrorist-attacks-on-us-military/2011/12/21/gIQAVSzBAP_allComments.html#comments"]Comments[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/apnewsbreak-oc-woman-charged-with-providing-money-to-fund-terrorist-attacks-on-us-military/2011/12/21/gIQAVSzBAP_story.html#weighIn"]Weigh In[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/interactivity/corrections/"]Corrections?[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/apnewsbreak-oc-woman-charged-with-providing-money-to-fund-terrorist-attacks-on-us-military/2011/12/21/gIQAVSzBAP_story.html"]in[B]Share[/B][/URL] Mihalik funneled about $2,000 to a person in Pakistan over a three-week period beginning late last year, knowing the money would be used to prepare for and carry out attacks against the U.S. military and others overseas, federal prosecutors said. Mihalik, who worked as a pharmacist, has been in federal custody since she was arrested in August after she attempted to board a flight to Turkey, her native country. She previously pleaded not guilty to the false statement charge. Mihalik lied to federal agents during an interview at Los Angeles International Airport following a six-month trip to Turkey by telling them she never used an alias to wire money overseas and she had only sent funds once, authorities said. She told investigators the money was meant for a family friend who was having financial problems, according to an affidavit. Authorities wouldn’t elaborate about how they know the money Mihalik wired overseas was going to be used for terrorist attacks. However, court documents reveal Mihalik’s arrest is “related to national security investigations in other areas of the United States.” As of August, Mihalik had been cooperating with investigators, records show. “The charges are based on the defendant’s intent to cause harm to U.S. military personnel,” said Thom Mrozek, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Los Angeles. “We have not alleged any attacks that may have resulted from the funding because the legal issue is the defendant’s intent as to what the money would be used for.” Defense attorney Alan Eisner said no new evidence has been offered up by prosecutors since his client’s arrest four months ago, and the money sent overseas was donated to charity. “The evidence will show she’s not funding a terrorist organization,” Eisner said. A trial on the false statement charge was set for February. Mihalik will be arraigned on the new charges at a later date. Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.[/release] [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/apnewsbreak-oc-woman-charged-with-providing-money-to-fund-terrorist-attacks-on-us-military/2011/12/21/gIQAVSzBAP_story.html[/URL] Ungrateful bitch

The article is very unclear about the details. They just say it's definitely being wired to fund terrorism, yet they don't say how. That's not very good writing. [QUOTE=Ignhelper;33848759] Ungrateful bitch[/QUOTE] Ungrateful to who?

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33848808] Ungrateful to who?[/QUOTE] The US

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33848829]The US[/QUOTE] What would she thank it for? The PATRIOT act?

She's ungrateful to the soldiers out there Most are just kids out of school and she wants them dead? She should protest not support enemies

[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;33848921]She's ungrateful to the soldiers out there Most are just kids out of school and she wants them dead? She should protest not support enemies[/QUOTE] You don't seem to be getting the point. What exactly are they doing for her? For this whole ungrateful thing to work, something needs to be given beforehand. This is assuming she even did it. Just because the Washingtonpost wants to prematurely convict someone, doesn't mean it's true.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33848943]You don't seem to be getting the point. What exactly are they doing for her?[/QUOTE] Protecting the U.S, risking their lives for her freedom and safety. You know, normal soldier stuff.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33848961]Protecting the U.S, risking their lives for her freedom and safety. You know, normal soldier stuff.[/QUOTE] The invasion of the middle east had nothing to do with protection...

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33848961]Protecting the U.S, risking their lives for her freedom and safety. You know, normal soldier stuff.[/QUOTE] Any more empty buzzwords you want to add to that? Sorry if I'm not 100% certain the Taliban are gearing up to invade the United States.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33848943]You don't seem to be getting the point. What exactly are they doing for her? For this whole ungrateful thing to work, something needs to be given beforehand. This is assuming she even did it. Just because the Washingtonpost wants to prematurely convict someone, doesn't mean it's true.[/QUOTE] Electricity? Running water? Police and Fire protection? Assorted constitutional rights? Heat? Roads?

Why the hell do these people live in the US? Don't like it? Then leave.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33848995]Any more empty buzzwords you want to add to that? Sorry if I'm not 100% certain the Taliban are gearing up to invade the United States.[/QUOTE] Yes because there has NEVER been an attack on US soil by the Taliban(Edit: / Al Qaeda) and certainly no other attempted attack since that first attempt that didn't happen. (That said, the US has no business in the middle east, but that's the US leaderships fault, not the soldiers.)

[QUOTE=Ardosos;33849016]Electricity? Running water? Police and Fire protection? Assorted constitutional rights? Heat? Roads?[/QUOTE] A lot of countries provide that. The quality and what goes into it is what matters. The US is pretty shit when it comes to most of that. You know just as well as I do that I can attach a reason why those good things are being diluted by the powers that be.

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;33849033]Why the hell do these people live in the US? Don't like it? Then leave.[/QUOTE] Because it's easy for people like me who are trapped in a mortgage for a shit house that was brought on by my dead father, no way to get a decent job in this economy, and no way to get enough money to travel out of the country. You can't just "leave", idiot.

[QUOTE=RagerTrader;33849039]Yes because there has NEVER been an attack on US soil by the Taliban and certainly no other attempted attack since that first attempt that didn't happen.[/quote] From the Taliban? No there hasn't. [quote](That said, the US has no business in the middle east, but that's the US leaderships fault, not the soldiers.)[/QUOTE] I am so sick of this excuse. The soldiers ACTIVELY put themselves in these situations. Why can't they receive some blame? This whole 'following orders' fallacy is just sickening rampant.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33849047]A lot of countries provide that. The quality and what goes into it is what matters. The US is pretty shit when it comes to most of that. You know just as well as I do that I can attach a reason why those good things are being diluted by the powers that be.[/QUOTE] The point wasn't that they can be provided by any country. The point was, they are being provided by [B]her[/B] country, and she responded with what is in essence treason. Hence, she is ungrateful.

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;33849033]Why the hell do these people live in the US? Don't like it? Then leave.[/QUOTE] They need to find something to complain about whilst they act like complete babies.

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;33849033]Why the hell do these people live in the US? Don't like it? Then leave.[/QUOTE] Because it's fucking easy, right? [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33849075]They need to find something to complain about whilst they act like complete babies.[/QUOTE] Life's easy when you're an upper middle class kid from the suburbs. [QUOTE=Ardosos;33849073]The point wasn't that they can be provided by any country. The point was, they are being provided by [B]her[/B] country, and she responded with what is in essence treason. Hence, she is ungrateful.[/QUOTE] That's a very weak explanation.

[B][I][U]stupid people[/U][/I][/B]

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33849072]From the Taliban? No there hasn't. I am so sick of this excuse. The soldiers ACTIVELY put themselves in these situations. Why can't they receive some blame? This whole 'following orders' fallacy is just sickening rampant.[/QUOTE] If they didn't volunteer, there would be a draft. Be thankful some people are willing to do it instead of being chosen at random.

[QUOTE=RagerTrader;33849118]If they didn't volunteer, there would be a draft. Be thankful some people are willing to do it instead of being chosen at random.[/QUOTE] That's not my point. If you're willing to get shot for some stupid cause to support literally the worse types of people, go on right ahead. Don't expect me to support it just because you attach frilly sounding buzzwords to it.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33849151]That's not my point. If you're willing to get shot for some stupid cause to support literally the worse types of people, go on right ahead. Don't expect me to support it just because you attach frilly sounding buzzwords to it.[/QUOTE] Worst type of people? Like who?

[QUOTE=RagerTrader;33849246]Worst type of people? Like who?[/QUOTE] Corporations, corrupt politicians. The usual suspects. The wars have literally just become political money games.

[QUOTE=RagerTrader;33849063]Because it's easy for people like me who are trapped in a mortgage for a shit house that was brought on by my dead father, no way to get a decent job in this economy, and no way to get enough money to travel out of the country. You can't just "leave", idiot.[/QUOTE] 1. Illegally move to Canada 2. Earn citizenship 3. Free Healthcare 4. ?? 5. Profit! :v:

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;33849033]Why the hell do these people live in the US? Don't like it? Then leave.[/QUOTE] you can't just pack your bags and walk out

[QUOTE=Mattk50;33848979]The invasion of the middle east had nothing to do with protection...[/QUOTE] They didn't start the war, it's their job. It's also their job to protect the US and it's not their fault they were sent there. Respect the soldier not the war

[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;33849341]They didn't start the war, it's their job. It's also their job to protect the US and it's not their fault they were sent there. Respect the soldier not the war[/QUOTE] They didn't start it, but they sure as hell fuel it. Again, this is just stupid. Doing bad things is okay if you're told to? What kind of nonsense is that? Tell you what, if you can name one thing the soldiers are doing that'll help the US, then maybe you can get some respect from me.

[QUOTE=zombays;33849311]1. Illegally move to Canada 2. Earn citizenship 3. Free Healthcare 4. ?? 5. Profit! :v:[/QUOTE] I live in Oklahoma.

High treason, off with her head!

Okay, so I know I'm liberal, but Governor Goblin takes the cake here. On another note, though the details are obviously scarce, and it's probably not even true, if it ends up being that she did intentionally fund groups whose intentions were to cause harm to U.S. soldiers, she's committed treason. Forgetting the ignorance of Governor Goblin's anti-American arguments, treason is still horrible, and there are peaceful ways to show your dislike for a country. And yes, it is treason, not because she's against the U.S., but she did something with intentions to harm the U.S. (if she actually intentionally funded them).