• Texas mother, a vocal gun rights advocate, killed by police after fatally shooting her two daughters
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[URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-shooting-daughters-article-1.2687929?utm_content=bufferaa6c1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw"]SOURCE[/URL] [QUOTE]The woman who was killed by police after she fatally shot her two daughters at their Texas home has been identified as an outspoken gun advocate. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Christy Sheats, 42, shot and killed her two young daughters, Taylor, 22, and Madison Sheats, 17, during an argument that started inside their Houston-area home and spilled out into a residential street.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]“It was a family argument that turned into a shooting,” Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls told [URL="http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/fortbend/article/Sheriff-s-Office-media-reports-active-shooter-in-8324118.php"]the Houston Chronicle[/URL]. “But we’re still trying to put the pieces together.”[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away," Sheats wrote in March on her Facebook page, "but that's exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns." [/QUOTE] Huh
Now this is the actual definition of irony.
Sorry, how again is this justification to strip the rights of others over the actions of a few people?
[QUOTE=Kigen;50595894]Sorry, how again is this justification to strip the rights of others over the actions of a few people?[/QUOTE] Way to jump to a conclusion buddy
Guns are dangerous.
[QUOTE=Kigen;50595894]Sorry, how again is this justification to strip the rights of others over the actions of a few people?[/QUOTE] it's NY daily news what do you expect US equivalent of huffpost
not all mu- I mean gun owners are like this guys still pro guns but still think mental health and background checks before you purchase guns are top idea, if you've got a history of mental health issues or violence you shouldn't be able to buy a gun :v: it's not fucking rocket science guys
[QUOTE=Kigen;50595894]Sorry, how again is this justification to strip the rights of others over the actions of a few people?[/QUOTE] Never said or actually want that. My dick is just hard from the irony of a 2A gun advocate killing the people they want to defend from the spooky gun-grabbing Demorats. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Creepy Shit Post" - UncleJimmema))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=axelord157;50595942]Never said or actually want that. My dick is just hard from the irony of a 2A gun advocate killing the people they want to defend from the spooky gun-grabbing Demorats.[/QUOTE] yeah whew love me some murder keep it comin boys haha imagine if i said "my dick is hard from the irony of a gun murder occurring in a country that banned guns"
[QUOTE=axelord157;50595942]My dick is just hard from the irony of a 2A gun advocate killing the people they want to defend from the spooky gun-grabbing Demorats.[/QUOTE] dude what the fuck
[quote]My dick is just hard from the irony of a 2A gun advocate killing the people[/quote] yea I hear it's totally normal to get an erection when children die
[QUOTE=Turnips5;50595957]yea I hear it's totally normal to get an erection when children die[/QUOTE] No children here 21 and 17. Just saying. Also based on their background, there is a high likelihoodd of all three of the ladies here being ridiculous retarded right wing supercunts. Not that anyone should be happy about this, just saying, there's no young kids involved, and they were having a domestic argument that was childish and petty enough that it involved handguns, plus it took place in front of the neighbors. It's a damn shame, sounds like we lost some real winners here.
[QUOTE=J Paul;50596043] a high likelihoodd of all three of the ladies here being ridiculous retarded right wing supercunts. .[/QUOTE] Stupid, baseless assumption
[QUOTE=J Paul;50596043]No children here 21 and 17. Just saying. Also based on their background, there is a high likelihoodd of all three of the ladies here being ridiculous retarded right wing supercunts. Not that anyone should be happy about this, just saying, there's no young kids involved, and they were having a domestic argument that was childish and petty enough that it involved handguns, plus it took place in front of the neighbors. It's a damn shame, sounds like we lost some real winners here.[/QUOTE] You don't even know these people.
Guns exacerbate situations such as these: conflicts get needlessly escalated due to the presence of firearms, whether domestic, with criminals, or with police. If you are fine with living in a society where this happens due to the widespread availability of guns, that's fine by me. But don't complain when the rest of the world laughs at you because of that.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50596125]Guns exacerbate situations such as these: conflicts get needlessly escalated due to the presence of firearms, whether domestic, with criminals, or with police. If you are fine with living in a society where this happens due to the widespread availability of guns, that's fine by me. But don't complain when the rest of the world laughs at you because of that.[/QUOTE] I don't see how in this particular situation a gun exacerbated it where any potential weapon could have. If they were in a heated enough argument to put a bloodlust in one of them, a bat or a knife would have resulted in the same scenario.
[QUOTE=Kigen;50595894]Sorry, how again is this justification to strip the rights of others over the actions of a few people?[/QUOTE] Thanks for jumping the gun there buddy. But preventing people with mental illness or bad intent getting a gun is worth a few people not having high powered rifles and more powerful weapons.
[QUOTE=megafat;50596140]Thanks for jumping the gun there buddy. But preventing people with mental illness or bad intent getting a gun is worth a few people not having high powered rifles and more powerful weapons.[/QUOTE] The "gun" was the title of this thread. Its obvious that the OP wanted the debate. And my rights exceed the illusion of safety you get via a gun ban. I have found no proof that banning guns decreases crime in any way. And "high powered rifles" are used exceedingly rare in crime.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50596134]I don't see how in this particular situation a gun exacerbated it where any potential weapon could have. If they were in a heated enough argument to put a bloodlust in one of them, a bat or a knife would have resulted in the same scenario.[/QUOTE] i'd say the threshold for murder is much much lower with guns than with knifes and etc.
[QUOTE=J Paul;50596043]No children here 21 and 17. Just saying. Also based on their background, there is a high likelihoodd of all three of the ladies here being ridiculous retarded right wing supercunts.[/QUOTE] What is wrong with you.
[QUOTE=megafat;50596140]Thanks for jumping the gun there buddy. But preventing people with mental illness or bad intent getting a gun is worth a few people not having high powered rifles and more powerful weapons.[/QUOTE] She committed these murders with a pistol but Democrats only want to ban scary "assault weapons", such as hunting rifles with more ergonomic grips. The anti-gun movement in the US will get nowhere until they start trying to go after the actual culprits of the crimes they claim to want to prevent. [editline]25th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Saturn V;50596166]i'd say the threshold for murder is much much lower with guns than with knifes and etc.[/QUOTE] The article states that police often have to come to this house because of domestic disputes. Odds are that the weapon of choice in this situation is irrelevant when it comes to the intent. Perhaps in other scenarios, the presence of a gun exacerbates the problems, but in this case, I think the gun is irrelevant.
Is this the part where someone counter-shitposts OP by giving examples of black university students claiming racism against them were found to be false flagging, or an imam who says that islam is a peaceful religion murders his wife?
[QUOTE=J!NX;50595906]Guns are dangerous.[/QUOTE] so is drinking, smoking nicotine, driving fast cars, cycling, running on sidewalks, doing extreme sports, going out at night, being uneducated, not getting enough psychological help when you need it, being self absorbed what's your point
[QUOTE=megafat;50596140]Thanks for jumping the gun there buddy. But preventing people with mental illness or bad intent getting a gun is worth a few people not having high powered rifles and more powerful weapons.[/QUOTE] Problem becomes what classifies as a mental illness that prevents you from purchasing a firearm? I was treated for depression as a kid, would that put me "at risk" for purchasing a firearm? Being a transgender is considered a mental illness. Its easy to say "just don't let people with mental problems have firearms" but honestly that's a huge territory to try and figure out what is and is not acceptable. And I don't trust our politicians to do it without royally fucking it up.
[QUOTE=ColdAsRice;50596193]Is this the part where someone counter-shitposts OP by giving examples of black university students claiming racism against them were found to be false flagging, or an imam who says that islam is a peaceful religion murders his wife?[/QUOTE] Nah, you can only do this for guns because guns aren't "progressive".
[QUOTE=Senscith;50596240]Problem becomes what classifies as a mental illness that prevents you from purchasing a firearm? I was treated for depression as a kid, would that put me "at risk" for purchasing a firearm? Being a transgender is considered a mental illness. Its easy to say "just don't let people with mental problems have firearms" but honestly that's a huge territory to try and figure out what is and is not acceptable. And I don't trust our politicians to do it without royally fucking it up.[/QUOTE] So because you don't trust politicians to make laws to prevent potential abusers of gun use from having them, you trust them to just prevent any and everyone from having them? A "kill them all and let god sort them out" sort of deal?
[QUOTE=Senscith;50596240]Problem becomes what classifies as a mental illness that prevents you from purchasing a firearm? I was treated for depression as a kid, would that put me "at risk" for purchasing a firearm? Being a transgender is considered a mental illness. Its easy to say "just don't let people with mental problems have firearms" but honestly that's a huge territory to try and figure out what is and is not acceptable. And I don't trust our politicians to do it without royally fucking it up.[/QUOTE] im sorry but im gonna go out on a limb here and assume that you have not for a second considered that maybe the laws around you are stupid and "gun control" should not be based on arbitrary shit like who is transgender or differently opinionated? maybe, just maybe "mental illness" should not be a blanket term for people with ticks and mothers who pop two caps in their childrens brains "im not trusting my politicians" is the prime expression for "I was raised by milennials to be a little baby who gets everything he wants whenever he wants" regardless of the country you live in you don't like something, strive to change it or shut the fuck up
[QUOTE=Egevened;50596220]so is drinking, smoking nicotine, driving fast cars, cycling, running on sidewalks, going out at night, being uneducated, not getting enough psychological help when you need it, being self absorbed what's your point[/QUOTE] If I really have to get 'deep into' a post that didn't really mean to state anything I guess I will I was stating the obvious partly as a joke, because anyone should be able to understand this but somehow the concept eludes them. I'm moderately pro-guns but the amount of people who misuse guns intentionally or unintentionally is actually mind boggling. Like it should just be common sense that guns are dangerous but people are too stupid to understand that. If she understood this she PROBABLY wouldn't have been shot down by police and would have been alive. I'm guessing at that point it could have been suicide by cop but who knows what happened, we can only speculate. Also, none of those things are specifically meant for destruction and nothing else. [editline]25th June 2016[/editline] like, people play with guns and then they shoot their leg off and wonder why it's because they are retarded and have no sense at all and then they do it again so guns are dangerous guys
[QUOTE=megafat;50596140]Thanks for jumping the gun there buddy. But preventing people with mental illness or bad intent getting a gun is worth a few people not having [B]high powered rifles and more powerful weapons[/B].[/QUOTE] I think it's interesting whenever people use such loaded language talking about guns. What do you consider "high powered", and why is a rifle worse than a pistol or a shotgun? Moreover, what are the "more powerful weapons" people have access to?
[QUOTE=J!NX;50596269]I'm moderately pro-guns but the amount of people who misuse guns intentionally or unintentionally is actually mind boggling. [/QUOTE] Addressing the method of violence will only cause people to use a different method. It'd be a whole lot more effective to address the cause of violence. That way you solve the problem of violence and don't infringe on the rights of the people trying to ineffectively address the method.
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