Anti-migrant protesters clash with 'No To Racism' activists in Melbourne - Polidicks

[b]Coburg rally: Police out in force as anti-Islam, anti-racist groups face off[/b] Via [url=http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/coburg-rally-police-in-force-as-antiislam-antiracist-groups-face-off/news-story/eee725492f8113c25e64fa95a0b0d0de]Herald Sun[/url] (live coverage in link) ______________________________ [quote]VIOLENT protesters who clashed at today’s Coburg rally have been branded cowards as police revealed knives were among weapons seized. Five men were arrested for riotous behaviour and other violence and another two over weapons and other offences. A police officer was injured during the madness after being exposed to pepper spray. Three protesters sustained minor injuries.[/quote] [hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1Q6DwuOfA[/hd] Never seen anything like this, coming from Australia...

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50407468] Never seen anything like this, coming from Australia...[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/l/g/f/c/4/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gl9mrh.png/1449386383796.jpg[/IMG] yeah nah, happens quite a bit

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50407479][IMG]http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/l/g/f/c/4/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gl9mrh.png/1449386383796.jpg[/IMG] yeah nah, happens quite a bit[/QUOTE] That pic kinda looks like AFL hooligans attacking a rival fan, to be honest... given the copious amount of alcohol I see

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50407486]That pic kinda looks like AFL hooligans attacking a rival fan, to be honest... given the copious amount of alcohol I see[/QUOTE] right click > search google for image [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h99tMhQlZxw[/media]

It's good watching both sides get maced. They're both scum.

[QUOTE=download;50407495]It's good watching both sides get maced. They're both scum.[/QUOTE] and what exactly has anti-fa done?

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50407494]right click > search google for image [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h99tMhQlZxw[/media][/QUOTE] Never seen or heard of that before, whoa. [QUOTE=gerbe1;50407501]and what exactly has anti-fa done?[/QUOTE] Well, if an antifa shows up to a racist rally... there's gonna be trouble. It's a certainty. So it's always better not to instigate and provoke. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] Their presence (either presence) is enough for some idiots to escalate the situation and before you know it, police in riot gear has to intervene. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] If I'm honest, I agree with download - both sides are just as annoying and serve no purpose and add nothing of value, and both sides ought to be held accountable.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50407509]Never seen or heard of that before, whoa. Well, if an antifa shows up to a racist rally... there's gonna be trouble. It's a certainty. So it's always better not to instigate and provoke. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] Their presence (either presence) is enough for some idiots to escalate the situation and before you know it, police in riot gear has to intervene. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] If I'm honest, I agree with download - both sides are just as annoying and serve no purpose and add nothing of value, and both sides ought to be held accountable.[/QUOTE] So it's better to give the perception that it's ok to be racist? The police more often than not cause their own trouble.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;50407529]So it's better to give the perception that it's ok to be racist? The police more often than not cause their own trouble.[/QUOTE] Just let them chant whatever the fuck they want. If no one pays attention to them, ignore them completely, do they even [I]exist[/I] for the vast majority of people? I'm talking about the same principle applied to the nutjobs at the Westboro Baptist Church - kill them with indifference.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;50407501]and what exactly has anti-fa done?[/QUOTE] They're a Socialist Alliance front. They're complete nutjobs - probably more so than the Reclaim Australia guys. The only saving grace is they usually don't resort to violence.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50407552]Just let them chant whatever the fuck they want. If no one pays attention to them, ignore them completely, do they even [I]exist[/I] for the vast majority of people? I'm talking about the same principle applied to the nutjobs at the Westboro Baptist Church - kill them with indifference.[/QUOTE] Have you noticed that a former Prime Minister of ours, a former Attourney General of ours, our current immigration minister (wtf?) and our former immigration minister and now treasurer have all echoed exactly the same message that the United Patriots Front is chanting? Kill them with indifference won't work because at the moment they're winning. Serious, actual, real election analysts give [I][B]Pauline Hanson[/B][/I] a decent chance of winning election. Anti-fa is keeping the UPF from seeming normal, ok, acceptable. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=download;50407559]They're a Socialist Alliance front. They're complete nutjobs - probably more so than the Reclaim Australia guys. The only saving grace is they usually don't resort to violence.[/QUOTE] I'd rather have anti-fa have more sway (and less pepper spray~ hashtag rhymes) than UPF.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;50407501]and what exactly has anti-fa done?[/QUOTE] Jeez at least Google them before saying something stupid.

And really if you're totally down with the police pepper spraying both sides, why even intervene? just forma protective circle around the public and let them fight it out. It's not like police have some magic justice aim that only hurt people who did something wrong. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Enus;50407567]Jeez at least Google them before saying something stupid.[/QUOTE] Rather than address everything wrong with anti-fa, I sought to address the ones that specifically bothered download.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;50407562]Have you noticed that a former Prime Minister of ours, a former Attourney General of ours, our current immigration minister (wtf?) and our former immigration minister and now treasurer have all echoed exactly the same message that the United Patriots Front is chanting? Kill them with indifference won't work because at the moment they're winning. Serious, actual, real election analysts give [I][B]Pauline Hanson[/B][/I] a decent chance of winning election. Anti-fa is keeping the UPF from seeming normal, ok, acceptable.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. If that's the case, then I'm guessing the population sympathizes with that line of thinking due to deeper social issues. A bunch of guys waving anti-islam signs are just a symptom of something much larger going on.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50407581]Fair enough. If that's the case, then I'm guessing the population sympathizes with that line of thinking due to deeper social issues. A bunch of guys waving anti-islam signs are just a symptom of something much larger going on.[/QUOTE] This is a global phenomenon. The solution is provided better in some countries than others; anti-fa is what happens when the government of a country sits closer to the UPF kinda people and the opposite end of the spectrum gets frustrated. UPF and the government (and then anti-fa) cause this stuff and then everything is compounded by the police getting bored and finding some reason to break out the pepper spray.

[url]http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/protester-awarded-13400-after-police-officer-made-up-charge-at-martin-place-rally-20160531-gp7xih.html[/url] look at this $#!7

[QUOTE=gerbe1;50407501]and what exactly has anti-fa done?[/QUOTE] anti-fa here in Slovenia are is fucking stupid, migrant loving and self-loathing idiots.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;50407501]and what exactly has anti-fa done?[/QUOTE] The last few years have soured by tastebuds with the likes of Antifa and Communist groups. They are a shadow of their former-selves and they exist only to silence dissidence against whomever their masters are for a day. Be it a left-wing group, intelligent CEOs, or whatever celebrity they happen to like that day. It's also because of said CEOs, that Antifa is usually targeted at anything the CEOs don't like. Conservative groups getting pissed off with unrealistic refugee importations? Evil Nazi-scum! We are going to threaten attacks on your farmlands and put [I]explosives in your mailboxs[/I]. Militia groups guarding the border in order to makeup for shortcomings of the US Border Patrol? GRRR, NO BORDERS! Because the people at Monsanto needs cheap Mexican slave labor! Also don't even get me started about how fucking cowardly their tactics are. Following individuals who may or may not of been involved at a rally, and then attacking them in wolf-packs like a bunch of savages. Firebombing the homes of police/constables because they were apart of separation lines at political rallies. As mentioned previously, bombing farmer's equipment because their towns have a higher amount of people voting for conservative parties. Antifa, like the Weathermen of bygone years deserves to be locked behind bars for the shit they do.

Is someone actually defending antifa? That would be like me defending the BNP

umm guys the article doesn't mention antifa. As far as I can see they're just anti-racist protestors

Why is being against immigration considered racist?

[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50434181]Why is being against immigration considered racist?[/QUOTE] because the immigrants aren't white, which means they are racist duh

[QUOTE=Araknid;50434211]because the immigrants aren't white, which means they are racist duh[/QUOTE] It seems irresponsible immigration policies tend to stir up shit in the name of ending shit. Alot of the solutions to the problems the left brings up seems to copy this exact pattern.

[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50434275]It seems irresponsible immigration policies tend to stir up shit in the name of ending shit. Alot of the solutions to the problems the left brings up seems to copy this exact pattern.[/QUOTE] We're talking about Australia though, which has the kind of immigration policies that European anti-immigration groups would cream their pants over. The people protesting against immigrants are the kind who think that muslims will implement sharia law at the first opportunity they can and that they are conspiring to take over the country from white Australians. They are genuine racists and not the 'I think immigration controls need to be better' type

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;50434428]We're talking about Australia though, which has the kind of immigration policies that European anti-immigration groups would cream their pants over. The people protesting against immigrants are the kind who think that muslims will implement sharia law at the first opportunity they can and that they are conspiring to take over the country from white Australians. They are genuine racists and not the 'I think immigration controls need to be better' type[/QUOTE] In the US the places with hardline racists are not the places exactly full of opportunity or exactly decent places to live. If this is the same with the land of OZ, are these people really doing the refugees a favor by forcing them to live in a land with a similar outlook, thus same circumstances?

The US and Australia are incredibly wealthy first-world countries. So yeah, they are doing them a massive favour when you compare it to the situation they were fleeing. Even if they were in the biggest racist shithole imaginable in both countries it beats war, famine etc.

For the record I was talking about the Australian version of anti-fa and they were at the rally even if they weren't mentioned in the article. That's kinda what they do. I still believe that anti-fa have not done anything nearly as bad as the UPF. And that anything that anti-fa have done wrong is still better than the kinds of things that police do at these types of protests.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50407509]Never seen or heard of that before, whoa. Well, if an antifa shows up to a racist rally... there's gonna be trouble. It's a certainty. So it's always better not to instigate and provoke. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] Their presence (either presence) is enough for some idiots to escalate the situation and before you know it, police in riot gear has to intervene. [editline]28th May 2016[/editline] If I'm honest, I agree with download - both sides are just as annoying and serve no purpose and add nothing of value, and both sides ought to be held accountable.[/QUOTE] I've been to a demo agains a NeoNazi rally a week ago. They shouted "once we march, we get serious" The Antifa oganized sitting blockades so the Neonazis couldn't march through the main street of a quarter inhabited by mainly people from the 70s migrant generation and their children. It ended peacefully. Something mus have went wrong with that certainty.

[QUOTE=Killuah;50447843]I've been to a demo agains a NeoNazi rally a week ago. They shouted "once we march, we get serious" The Antifa oganized sitting blockades so the Neonazis couldn't march through the main street of a quarter inhabited by mainly people from the 70s migrant generation and their children. It ended peacefully. Something mus have went wrong with that certainty.[/QUOTE] So, for once ANTIFA didn't throw rocks, start a riot and harm pedestrians? Wow, must be a big day for you guys!

[QUOTE=Killuah;50447843]I've been to a demo agains a NeoNazi rally a week ago. They shouted "once we march, we get serious" The Antifa oganized sitting blockades so the Neonazis couldn't march through the main street of a quarter inhabited by mainly people from the 70s migrant generation and their children. It ended peacefully. Something mus have went wrong with that certainty.[/QUOTE] You'll excuse me for finding that hard to believe.