Elon Musk Wants To Put A Million People On Mars, Says Interstellar Travel Will Sustain Mankind - Polidicks

[QUOTE]No one has been to Mars yet, and [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/elon-musk/"]Elon Musk[/URL] wants to change that in a big way. The SpaceX CEO says we need to put a million people on the Red Planet to make sure human civilization survives. "I think there is a strong humanitarian argument for making life multi-planetary... in order to safeguard the existence of humanity in the event that something catastrophic were to happen," [URL="http://aeon.co/magazine/technology/the-elon-musk-interview-on-mars/"]Musk said in a recent interview with the digital magazine Aeon[/URL]. Musk's comment sounds ominous but may not be off the mark, given the threats that scientists see in [URL="http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0730/When-would-global-warming-destroy-life-on-Earth-Study-hazards-a-guess"]climate change[/URL] and [URL="http://pan-starrs.ifa.hawaii.edu/public/asteroid-threat/asteroid_threat.html"]space rocks[/URL].[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/elon-musk-mars-aeon-interview_n_5907914.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000042&ir=Technology"]Source[/URL]

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good fucking luck with that, i sure as fuck wouldn't want to be the test rat for this :v:

[t]http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/orion1_48.jpg[/t] gonna need all 8 million tons of firepower to do it then no seriously, we cannot send a million people in 5-6 manned capsules, we can't even send 5-6 men/women in a 12m wide capsule either, start talking about the vehicle that'll do the long hauling then i'll believe you

[QUOTE=Sableye;46119164][t]http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/orion1_48.jpg[/t] gonna need all 8 million tons of firepower to do it then no seriously, we cannot send a million people in 5-6 manned capsules, we can't even send 5-6 men/women in a 12m wide capsule either, start talking about the vehicle that'll do the long hauling then i'll believe you[/QUOTE] They're not going to be sending people to Mars in the Dragon. They'll be doing it on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter"]MCT[/URL]. Which they're hashing out engines and designs for right now.

[QUOTE=OvB;46119177]They're not going to be sending people to Mars in the Dragon. They'll be doing it on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter"]MCT[/URL]. Which they're hashing out engines and designs for right now.[/QUOTE] huh, first time i've heard of that, still kinda disapointing they're just focusing on pure chemical based rocketry ,guess its what will have to do for now but it would be historic if they were able to launch that from pad 39A

[QUOTE=confinedUser;46119157]good fucking luck with that, i sure as fuck wouldn't want to be the test rat for this :v:[/QUOTE] I'd go in a heartbeat, the ability to not only reach out to new grounds but learn/develop to help [URL="http://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html"]civilization back at home[/URL] is something that I cannot deny.

Elon Musk is a big dreamer. I won't stop him from trying though.

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[QUOTE=Sableye;46119164] gonna need all 8 million tons of firepower to do it then no seriously, we cannot send a million people in 5-6 manned capsules, we can't even send 5-6 men/women in a 12m wide capsule either, start talking about the vehicle that'll do the long hauling then i'll believe you[/QUOTE] That's acknowledged in the article. [QUOTE]"Excluding organic growth, if you could take 100 people at a time, you would need 10,000 trips to get to a million people"[/QUOTE] Anyway, good luck to them but its going to be near impossible to pull the support needed for something this big. They'll need a 21st century Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand.

I wonder how people would live on Mars if ever The dust is extremely deadly to humans, you'd have to stay in Domes or something even if you changed the atmosphere.

[QUOTE=Saxon;46119295]I wonder how people would live on Mars if ever The dust is extremely deadly to humans, you'd have to stay in Domes or something even if you changed the atmosphere.[/QUOTE] If science fiction and real life are anything to go by, humans love to colonize hostile enviroments The deadlier and uglier the better

[QUOTE=Saxon;46119295]I wonder how people would live on Mars if ever The dust is extremely deadly to humans, you'd have to stay in Domes or something even if you changed the atmosphere.[/QUOTE] you mean like some kind of Bio-Dome starring Pauly Shore

[QUOTE=T553412;46119313]If science fiction and real life are anything to go by, humans love to colonize hostile enviroments The deadlier and uglier the better[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, living on a death world in Warhammer 40,000 is a vacation.

[QUOTE=St. Burke;46119339]you mean like some kind of Bio-Dome starring Pauly Shore[/QUOTE] More like the Eden Project in Cornwall. Much more realistic and less abhorrent than whatever you just mentioned.

Ok I might've been hesitant on a one way trip with like 5 people, if if he's going for numbers like this sign me up.

If we want to get serious about colonizing systems we need to think of alternative methods to break orbit that isn't as costly per trip. For example the orbital elevator that the Japanese CEO expressed plans for a couple weeks ago is a good candidate.

[QUOTE=OvB;46119177]They're not going to be sending people to Mars in the Dragon. They'll be doing it on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter"]MCT[/URL]. Which they're hashing out engines and designs for right now.[/QUOTE] Shiiieeet didn't know this even existed. This is insane man.

[QUOTE=Banned?;46119355]Oh yeah, living on a death world in Warhammer 40,000 is a vacation.[/QUOTE] Never said it was gonna be a vacation, but people will find a way to call even the shittiest hole in the galaxy "home", either out of necesity or just for the heck of doing so.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;46119380]Shiiieeet didn't know this even existed. This is insane man.[/QUOTE] They already have the test stands ready at Stennis AFB for the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_%28rocket_engine%29"]Raptor[/URL] engine that it will use. I think rumor has it the engines are currently in initial production at the factory.

[QUOTE=TheKingofBees;46119377]If we want to get serious about colonizing systems we need to think of alternative methods to break orbit that isn't as costly per trip. For example the orbital elevator that the Japanese CEO expressed plans for a couple weeks ago is a good candidate.[/QUOTE] Space elevator might work, although some sort of mass driver might also work, using a long tunnel to accelerate the transport at just the right rate of acceleration to not harm the passengers but still reach high enough speeds to shoot a transport into space, or at least high enough for the transport to boost itself the rest of the way. Although personally I think that we should start with building the Moonbase before we go all the way to Mars and establish Bowie Station.

[QUOTE=Sableye;46119218]huh, first time i've heard of that, still kinda disapointing they're just focusing on pure chemical based rocketry ,guess its what will have to do for now but it would be historic if they were able to launch that from pad 39A[/QUOTE] pad 39A might not be big enough for it. The flame trench might not be adequate. I think they're going to use 39A for manned Dragon flights to the ISS.

[QUOTE=T553412;46119313]If science fiction and real life are anything to go by, humans love to colonize hostile enviroments The deadlier and uglier the better[/QUOTE] Thinking on it, we're actually remarkable in that regard. Rather than sticking to just the perfectly ideal places on our planet, we as a species has decided that "fuck it this place is really shitty but i can deal with it" and have adapted to live basically anywhere aside from the poles at this point. Then we do space shit, and rather than wait till we find the perfect planet for colonization, we just go "yeah mars seems like it might be legit? whats that? it's really fuckin hot and has only trace amounts of water? yeah whatever" humanity kicks ass

Going back to the Bio-Dome idea, we have this in Arizona, got to visit years ago: [url]http://b2science.org/[/url] For a while, it produced energy, fresh water, and food for its occupants with zero outside influence. The experiment failed when rainforest soil bacteria started producing dangerous amounts of CO2.

[QUOTE=OvB;46119177]They're not going to be sending people to Mars in the Dragon. They'll be doing it on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter"]MCT[/URL]. Which they're hashing out engines and designs for right now.[/QUOTE] the SpaceX rabbit hole goes deeper than I thought

[QUOTE=_Kent_;46119504]Going back to the Bio-Dome idea, we have this in Arizona, got to visit years ago: [url]http://b2science.org/[/url] For a while, it produced energy, fresh water, and food for its occupants with zero outside influence. The experiment failed when rainforest soil bacteria started producing dangerous amounts of CO2.[/QUOTE] This is why we need to cut down the rainforests!!! They're secretly out to get us!

Do I receive priority seating and a complimentary in-flight meal as a Tesla owner?

[QUOTE=ironman17;46119420]Space elevator might work, although some sort of mass driver might also work, using a long tunnel to accelerate the transport at just the right rate of acceleration to not harm the passengers but still reach high enough speeds to shoot a transport into space, or at least high enough for the transport to boost itself the rest of the way. Although personally I think that we should start with building the Moonbase before we go all the way to Mars and establish Bowie Station.[/QUOTE] IMO moon colonization sounds much easier than mars. that and it is an important stepping stone to test our attempts at building habitats (also [URL="http://www.space.com/26592-manned-moon-exploration-lunar-pits.html"] moonpits[/URL])

[QUOTE=Supacasey;46119567]Do I receive priority seating and a complimentary in-flight meal as a Tesla owner?[/QUOTE] As an early adopter you get seats made a couple years ago.

[QUOTE=Saxon;46119295]I wonder how people would live on Mars if ever The dust is extremely deadly to humans, you'd have to stay in Domes or something even if you changed the atmosphere.[/QUOTE] releasing moisture in the atmosphere will tie down dust assuming the atmosphere doesn't just escape into space